Severe droop/wilt

[Mumbeltypeg]

One of the girls in my tent has developed a severe droop pretty much overnight.. noticed it this morning and has worsened through the day today to the point it looks pretty much fucked.
Seems odd as it’s hooked up to a recirculating system.. and is getting the same treatment as all the others and has been fine up until today.. I have just lifted the pot on bungees to make sure there isn’t any standing water in the bottom, if that doesn’t sort it out then I have to assume some sort of root pathogen has gotten to it.

 

[hotrodharley]

Have you looked at the roots? Are you checking pH?

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

Have you looked at the roots? Are you checking pH?

Ph is steady as a rock, but I calibrated just in case. How does one go about looking at the roots? They are in hydroton.. I guess I could try and float the plant out in a bucket?

 

[curious2garden]

At this point in hydroton I'd try watering from the top to see if the recirculation system is functional. I'd look for mechanical failure as the plant looks otherwise healthy and this is sudden onset.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

I have pulled it out of the system and isolated it in DWC bucket with a couple of air stones and am just running it with ph’d water with a bit of peroxide.. scraped some rocks aside.. some of the roots were perhaps a bit brown. Probs need to cool my res down, is sitting at 22c.. will go and hook up my chiller asap tomorrow.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

At this point in hydroton I'd try watering from the top to see if the recirculation system is functional. I'd look for mechanical failure as the plant looks otherwise healthy and this is sudden onset.

Sudden onset is right.. looked a little off this morning but now.. I have never seen one go downhill so quick.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

Sudden onset is right.. looked a little off this morning but now.. I have never seen one go downhill so quick.

Makes me worried for the others using the same res.

 

[curious2garden]

Sudden onset is right.. looked a little off this morning but now.. I have never seen one go downhill so quick.

Can you water it and see if it perks up. I'm wondering if the circulation system got blocked off?

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

Can you water it and see if it perks up. I'm wondering if the circulation system got blocked off?

I think the issue is the pots weren’t returning all the water to the res.. roots were standing in non aerated water and drowning.. I will put an inline pump to ensure they drain properly after a feed tomorrow.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

I think the issue is the pots weren’t returning all the water to the res.. roots were standing in non aerated water and drowning.. I will put an inline pump to ensure they drain properly after a feed tomorrow.

It was definitely getting water to it.. First thing I checked.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

Thank you all for your help.. will update tomoz with progress.

 

[Nutty sKunK]

Sudden onset is right.. looked a little off this morning but now.. I have never seen one go downhill so quick.

They react fast when root rot is present. Any brown slime to the roots?

 

[hotrodharley]

They react fast when root rot is present. Any brown slime to the roots?

That’s what I immediately thought.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

They react fast when root rot is present. Any brown slime to the roots?

Nothing obvious.. but a night sitting in aerated peroxide and water ought to sort it if it’s root rot I should think..

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

Seems to be doing the trick! Great!

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Seems to be doing the trick! Great!

Yea it looked underwatered. Any ideas what could be blocking off?

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

Yea it looked underwatered. Any ideas what could be blocking off?

It’s wasn’t under watered, the roots were drowning from sitting in water as the return line wasn’t emptying.

 

[curious2garden]

It’s wasn’t under watered, the roots were drowning from sitting in water as the return line wasn’t emptying.

I'd keep a close watch on her, sitting in stagnant water could have killed off some roots or bits of roots so root rot is still possible. I'd also consider adding some chlorine to her res and keeping her isolated for a week or so before reintroducing her to the shared res. I'm glad you caught it quickly.

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

I'd keep a close watch on her, sitting in stagnant water could have killed off some roots or bits of roots so root rot is still possible. I'd also consider adding some chlorine to her res and keeping her isolated for a week or so before reintroducing her to the shared res. I'm glad you caught it quickly.

Thank you very much! E sounds like good advice

 

[Mumbeltypeg]

I have probably just murdered a plant in the name of science but I wanted to know if I had root rot and the only way I could figure it was to float the plant out of its media and look at the roots.. the way it’s going it was going to be dead soon anyway..
I really can’t see any sign of it tho.. the roots look and smell healthy near as I can tell.. but two plants have gone downhill now, I have isolated them both..