Fogdog
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128 times this year and counting.
Yesterday's Mass Shooting.
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DIY-HP-LED
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Fox ‘News’ Live Stream INTERRUPTED by Mother who BLASTS Republicans in Must-See Moment
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After news of yet another tragedy in America, this time at Covenant School in Nashville, a concerned mother took over a Fox News livestream to share her candid thoughts.
Herb & Suds
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printer
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House Judiciary postpones pistol brace rule markup after Nashville shooting
The House Judiciary Committee postponed a scheduled Tuesday markup on a resolution to nullify a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) pistol brace rule following the mass shooting at a Nashville, Tennessee, school on Monday.
“Democrats were going to turn this tragic event into a political thing,” Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Monday evening.
Punchbowl News first reported that the hearing would be postponed.
Police said a 28-year-old woman killed three nine-year-olds and three adult staff members at Covenant School, a private Christian school in Nashville, on Monday. Authorities said the shooter had assault-style weapons and a handgun.
The ATF rule that Republicans are seeking to nullify would reclassify pistols that have a stabilizing brace as short-barreled rifles, and require those with existing pistols that have stabilizing braces to register with the government by May 31, 2023.
“This issue we wanted to mark up tomorrow that we’ll mark up here in a couple of weeks as is all about the Constitution,” Jordan said. “You had an agency tell Americans the rule was one thing. Ten years later, they just changed the rule without going through Congress. So, this is a Constitutional concern, but Democrats had already been talking about making everything political, so we just decided to postpone.”
The Justice Department in announcing the rule said that the new regulation ensures that manufactures, dealers, and individuals who use stabilizing braces to convert pistols into rifles with a barrel of less than 16 inches should comply with the laws of short-barrel rifles. That marks a change from 2012, when the ATF said pistol attachments do change the classification of a pistol.
“In the days of Al Capone, Congress said back then that short-barreled rifles and sawed-off shotguns should be subjected to greater legal requirements than most other guns. The reason for that is that short-barreled rifles have the greater capability of long guns, yet are easier to conceal, like a pistol,” ATF Director Steven Dettelbach said in a statement in January. “But certain so-called stabilizing braces are designed to just attach to pistols, essentially converting them into short-barreled rifles to be fired from the shoulder. Therefore, they must be treated in the same way under the statute.”
thehill.com
You mean when there is gun violence you are not allowed to look at the firearm legislation as it would look political?
The House Judiciary Committee postponed a scheduled Tuesday markup on a resolution to nullify a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) pistol brace rule following the mass shooting at a Nashville, Tennessee, school on Monday.
“Democrats were going to turn this tragic event into a political thing,” Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Monday evening.
Punchbowl News first reported that the hearing would be postponed.
Police said a 28-year-old woman killed three nine-year-olds and three adult staff members at Covenant School, a private Christian school in Nashville, on Monday. Authorities said the shooter had assault-style weapons and a handgun.
The ATF rule that Republicans are seeking to nullify would reclassify pistols that have a stabilizing brace as short-barreled rifles, and require those with existing pistols that have stabilizing braces to register with the government by May 31, 2023.
“This issue we wanted to mark up tomorrow that we’ll mark up here in a couple of weeks as is all about the Constitution,” Jordan said. “You had an agency tell Americans the rule was one thing. Ten years later, they just changed the rule without going through Congress. So, this is a Constitutional concern, but Democrats had already been talking about making everything political, so we just decided to postpone.”
The Justice Department in announcing the rule said that the new regulation ensures that manufactures, dealers, and individuals who use stabilizing braces to convert pistols into rifles with a barrel of less than 16 inches should comply with the laws of short-barrel rifles. That marks a change from 2012, when the ATF said pistol attachments do change the classification of a pistol.
“In the days of Al Capone, Congress said back then that short-barreled rifles and sawed-off shotguns should be subjected to greater legal requirements than most other guns. The reason for that is that short-barreled rifles have the greater capability of long guns, yet are easier to conceal, like a pistol,” ATF Director Steven Dettelbach said in a statement in January. “But certain so-called stabilizing braces are designed to just attach to pistols, essentially converting them into short-barreled rifles to be fired from the shoulder. Therefore, they must be treated in the same way under the statute.”
House Judiciary postpones pistol brace rule markup after Nashville shooting
The House Judiciary Committee postponed a scheduled Tuesday markup on a resolution to nullify a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) pistol brace rule following the mass shoot…
thehill.com
You mean when there is gun violence you are not allowed to look at the firearm legislation as it would look political?
cannabineer
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It’s the weaponization of weapons, wouldn’t’cha know.House Judiciary postpones pistol brace rule markup after Nashville shooting
The House Judiciary Committee postponed a scheduled Tuesday markup on a resolution to nullify a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) pistol brace rule following the mass shooting at a Nashville, Tennessee, school on Monday.
“Democrats were going to turn this tragic event into a political thing,” Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Monday evening.
Punchbowl News first reported that the hearing would be postponed.
Police said a 28-year-old woman killed three nine-year-olds and three adult staff members at Covenant School, a private Christian school in Nashville, on Monday. Authorities said the shooter had assault-style weapons and a handgun.
The ATF rule that Republicans are seeking to nullify would reclassify pistols that have a stabilizing brace as short-barreled rifles, and require those with existing pistols that have stabilizing braces to register with the government by May 31, 2023.
“This issue we wanted to mark up tomorrow that we’ll mark up here in a couple of weeks as is all about the Constitution,” Jordan said. “You had an agency tell Americans the rule was one thing. Ten years later, they just changed the rule without going through Congress. So, this is a Constitutional concern, but Democrats had already been talking about making everything political, so we just decided to postpone.”
The Justice Department in announcing the rule said that the new regulation ensures that manufactures, dealers, and individuals who use stabilizing braces to convert pistols into rifles with a barrel of less than 16 inches should comply with the laws of short-barrel rifles. That marks a change from 2012, when the ATF said pistol attachments do change the classification of a pistol.
“In the days of Al Capone, Congress said back then that short-barreled rifles and sawed-off shotguns should be subjected to greater legal requirements than most other guns. The reason for that is that short-barreled rifles have the greater capability of long guns, yet are easier to conceal, like a pistol,” ATF Director Steven Dettelbach said in a statement in January. “But certain so-called stabilizing braces are designed to just attach to pistols, essentially converting them into short-barreled rifles to be fired from the shoulder. Therefore, they must be treated in the same way under the statute.”
House Judiciary postpones pistol brace rule markup after Nashville shooting
The House Judiciary Committee postponed a scheduled Tuesday markup on a resolution to nullify a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) pistol brace rule following the mass shoot…
You mean when there is gun violence you are not allowed to look at the firearm legislation as it would look political?
printer
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I deleted that part of my post.
cannabineer
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the part below the link drew my response. It’s still there.
In other news, maga blame their culture-war targets
Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale identified as transgender and had detailed manifesto to attack Christian academy
Nashville police revealed that the 28-year-old who shot and killed six people at the Covenant School had a detailed manifesto.
nypost.com
Herb & Suds
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sweetisland2009
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Transgender Nashville school shooter drew chilling images and cartoons
Audrey Hale, who shot and killed six people on Monday in a Nashville school, published their art online. Works included a drawing from 'The Shining' and an image referencing wanting to remain a child.
Very dramatic headlines rub me the wrong way from either side of the political spectrum
husita
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I live in a country, where you can:
-have a magazine with more than 6 rounds (i actually have some)
-do relading in your home, no problem to own gunpowder ( i actually have some)
-sell to another person (I bought two shotguns this way)
-you can carry wherever you want, except some prohibited places, like banks, parliament, minsters office,...(no problem to take gun to school)
You have to have a licence to own guns and they are registrated.
No mass shooting here. Gun violence very exceptional.
What you demand will not work.
Herb & Suds
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DIY-HP-LED
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The rules and laws you live under will not work in America. Guns in schools are no problem? What country are you from and what is the gun culture like there? Are there no mentally ill people in your country? Perhaps that's where the licensing thing comes into play.
So don't crow about your country, if you are too ashamed to admit where you are from, and we cannot judge the conditions there. I'm from Canada and guns in schools are not on the agenda, neither is open or concealed carry and it's not allowed in most other places. It might be part of national defense in some places where large reserve forces are used, but it is the exception, not the rule.
Registration and licensing would help, so would increasing the risk and burden of ownership to reduce the numbers. Of the 400 million guns in America 3% of the population own 50% of them, so getting rid of most of them is doable.
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HGCC
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It's a culmination of factors. A uniquely American situation. I place the blame on something within our culture, Americans have a very unhealthy relationship with violence and the tools used to do it. Other countries have the access to both the weapons and our media...but they don't have this situation daily. It's how those two factors come together here, but I don't have any insight as to why.
DIY-HP-LED
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Most places don't allow guns and that guy is probably from Finland with huge military reserves and a more rural lifestyle. If you want a place to compare, compare to Canada, we share the same culture and have different gun laws. Most gun murders in Canada are committed using smuggled American guns and we have a lot less per capita than America.
DIY-HP-LED
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HGCC
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I was under the impression the laws were comparable....and/or that gun ownership was pretty common. Hunting seems common so I would imagine it isnt that hard to obtain a Shotgun or deer rifle.
Uhhh, while typing this I realized my impression regarding Canada and people killing gun (handguns/not deer rifles) was pretty heavily influenced by trailer park boys. Just handguns in random drawers or stuck in the couch, like here. Between that and the part in bowling for columbine where he goes to Canada and they all have guns but nobody locks their doors, I have no idea what's going on.
Uhhh, while typing this I realized my impression regarding Canada and people killing gun (handguns/not deer rifles) was pretty heavily influenced by trailer park boys. Just handguns in random drawers or stuck in the couch, like here. Between that and the part in bowling for columbine where he goes to Canada and they all have guns but nobody locks their doors, I have no idea what's going on.
It is the Post a step up from National Enquirer. + this guy wasn't trans..a man's man, what was his excuse?View attachment 5275807
Transgender Nashville school shooter drew chilling images and cartoons
Audrey Hale, who shot and killed six people on Monday in a Nashville school, published their art online. Works included a drawing from 'The Shining' and an image referencing wanting to remain a child.www.dailymail.co.uk
Very dramatic headlines rub me the wrong way from either side of the political spectrum
2017 Las Vegas shooting - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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On the night of October 1, 2017, Stephen Paddock fired hundreds of bullets from his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel on the Las Vegas Strip in Paradise, Nevada, United States at a group of concert-goers across the road at the Route 91 Harvest music festival with AK-47s and AR-15s. From his 32nd floor balcony, Paddock fired over 1000 bullets into the festival. He killed 60 people and wounded 411 before committing suicide. The panic meant that the total injured increased to 867.[2][3] It is the deadliest mass shooting in the history of the United States.[4]
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My guess is Switzerland.
Switzerland?
What do we demand?
Why do you speak as if you're afraid of getting caught at something nefarious?
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