Trump To Turn Himself In

xtsho said:
I see no benefit in having a former President of the United States arrested and cuffed going to jail. Regardless of what some think is justice the image on the world stage is just a spectacle this country doesn't need. It would undermine the credibility of our soldiers abroad.
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I think it would be great if Trump went to prison, it would mean there is the rule of law in America and that no one is above it. It should be celebrated and will bring America honor and respect, trust too. It means you are living up to your ideals and crawled out of the fucking gutter and are scrapping the shit off your feet, it's about time.
 
doublejj said:
so by this logic Joe and Hunter Biden are immune fro prosecution....equal protection under the law kind of thing....we wouldn't want to damage the reputation of the USA. Time to move on from Hunters laptop....
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The Republicans don't have expectations that this is going anywhere. This is just what each side does these days. They investigate the other side, send tweets, update their facebook page, whatever it takes to move on and make more money. The R's all want to be the next Tucker Carlson and the D's want to be the next Rachel Maddow. They're all chasing money. I don't trust any of them.
 
CunningCanuk said:
If he was smart, which he isn’t, he could make a deal with DeSantis. I’ll get my supporters behind you if you pardon me, kinda thing.
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Trump already dealt the first blow by saying that Florida was in sound condition prior to DeSantis (which it was) and that Charlie Crist (now a Dem; no nickname) was a better governor..so was low energy Jeb.
 
topcat said:
The only thing worse than prosecuting a criminal ex-president is not prosecuting a criminal ex-president.
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He's a private citizen with a Secret Service detail. He gets no consideration. What would've happened the day we realized Social Security deposits weren't there? What would your parents do? Your grandparents? We The People that funded it since 1975 without fail..year over year?

There are many ways to steal from The American People..SS Trust Fund is the big kahuna- be prepared for someone else to try.
 
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schuylaar said:
He's a private citizen with a Secret Service detail. He gets no consideration. What would've happened the day we realized Social Security deposits weren't there? What would your parents do? Your grandparents? We The People that funded it since 1975 without fail..year over year.
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a whole bunch of old and physically fucked up people would get pissed? and...hobble, stagger, limp, roll their way to...where exactly?
By the time it trickled down to the callow youth that their parents are about to become homeless people, their parents would already be out in the streets.
most young people would be a lot more concerned about having to pay into a system that they thought was going to be there for THEM, and now was not going to be, than they would be about everyone else's parents and grandparents becoming homeless.
 
Xtsho's grumpiness cracks me up, cantankerous even.

I think brushing stuff under the rug for the good of the nation is the wrong approach. The bad shit is already out there, to just pretend it isnt undermines our character. If you want to lead you need to hold yourself accountable. There needs to be legitimate investigations and findings, and appropriate punishment.

Hooker hush money is one thing, but you can't let someone try to overthrow the government and then just walk away. What's to prevent another try. Or perhaps these terrible things are media fabrications, either needs to get tossed into the light.

Problems don't get better ignoring them.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
a whole bunch of old and physically fucked up people would get pissed? and...hobble, stagger, limp, roll their way to...where exactly?
By the time it trickled down to the callow youth that their parents are about to become homeless people, their parents would already be out in the streets.
most young people would be a lot more concerned about having to pay into a system that they thought was going to be there for THEM, and now was not going to be, than they would be about everyone else's parents and grandparents becoming homeless.
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Rhetorical but always enjoy the comments. What will happen is the dreaded 'fear and chaos'. Retired people actually bank roll the economy. I'm a spender after the obligatory 3 months of living expenses saved. I spend wisely though. Local..I support Local shops and have made friends..left and right. I don't have a car because I live downtown. That's a huge savings. I use Local pharmacy not chain. Usually this is where you help your kids or grand kids if you have them. The money goes back into the economy. Part D tries to kill you so SS doesn't have to give you a check. I figured that out already; I now know my next battle.

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Edit: This would all disappear^^^^with SS Trust Fund that the next Dictator will take a shot for. Trump already had SS denying all Disability applications. You know they know, because I had to sign a one page letter stating that 'this was my first time applying' before they'd give me my money. That was a lie. My attorney said she never saw a letter like that.
 
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HGCC said:
Xtsho's grumpiness cracks me up, cantankerous even.

I think brushing stuff under the rug for the good of the nation is the wrong approach. The bad shit is already out there, to just pretend it isnt undermines our character. If you want to lead you need to hold yourself accountable. There needs to be legitimate investigations and findings, and appropriate punishment.

Hooker hush money is one thing, but you can't let someone try to overthrow the government and then just walk away. What's to prevent another try. Or perhaps these terrible things are media fabrications, either needs to get tossed into the light.

Problems don't get better ignoring them.
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Let's just go back to the Hooker Hush money..two things were at play here 1) election fraud 2) Melania.

Trump was a Presidential candidate who did this while his wife was giving birth years prior.

Skirting the truth is the same thing as lying. You have to tell all the facts known or it's a lie.
 
schuylaar said:
Let's just go back to the Hooker Hush money..two things were at play here 1) election fraud 2) Melania.

Trump was a Presidential candidate who did this while his wife was giving birth years prior.

Skirting the truth is the same thing as lying. You have to tell all the facts known or it's a lie.
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anything between him and melania is between him and melania, no one gives a fuck about whether or not he was cheating. Cheating isn't illegal.
it's not about election fraud, either, it's about the misuse of campaign money. lies don't matter, morality doesn't matter, nothing matters except did he use campaign money to make that payment...

https://www.axios.com/2023/03/18/trump-stormy-daniels-payment-probe
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
anything between him and melania is between him and melania, no one gives a fuck about whether or not he was cheating. Cheating isn't illegal.
it's not about election fraud, either, it's about the misuse of campaign money. lies don't matter, morality doesn't matter, nothing matters except did he use campaign money to make that payment...

https://www.axios.com/2023/03/18/trump-stormy-daniels-payment-probe
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Okay well there you go!..misuse of campaign funds is a crime and he's a regular ol' peoples now..have the fuck at it already!:wall:

The barricades are being dispersed.
 
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