Social Media is not Real Life

[Fogdog]

Yes there is.

You just woke up from a coma and have no memory you can still do all of the following with exception of remembering which you will do once you make new memories..perceiving, remembering, considering, evaluating, and deciding.

Each part of your brain is responsible for different activity.

Where is the mind? It's located within your left and right temporal lobes. That's why lobotomy kills the mind.

lobotomy is a procedure that severs connections to and from the prefrontal cortex. It did not kill the mind, the effects on people who were given them were described as emotionally blunted and restricted intellectually. It's quite possible that the prefontal cortex continued to function but could not communicate with the rest of the brain. That said, yes, there are functions we associate with a person's mind mind that depend on this region that are demonstrably lost when the prefrontal cortex is no longer interconnected with the rest of the brain.

The prefrontal cortex is interconnected with the rest of the brain. Executive functions are associated with that area but in order to perform those functions, it needs access to other areas, such as the hippocampus, where long term memories are stored and other areas of the brain that are involved in the senses, such as taste, touch and smell. Brain regions involved with attention, cognition, action and emotion are all interconnected with the PFC but don't reside there. The mind is all of these and more.

 

[Fogdog]

Just as Chat Gpt is a poor representation of the way a brain works.What if Human neurology is a poor representation of the way the Universe works?You speak of our disconnection from the Akashic record and our inability to exist or interpret in more than 3 dimensions. Perhaps our intellect is just as inconsequential to Reality as rudimentary forms of AI seem to us at this point.

did I speak of our disconnection from the Akashic record? Before i read that post, I didn't even know what that was. That was a rabbit hole to go down into. Fortunately one of the first sites I visited offered me a free 7 day trial where I could find my personal angel. I went into reverse with all possible speed.

That said, I think I referred to what you speak of when I posted the experience of a woman who during a near death experience related that she could understand things naturally, calculus, the universe and everything seemed within her grasp. A former classmate in college related her experiences with peyote and said we can learn whatever we want if we just think about it. She didn't last long in my Biochemistry class. But I do wonder what she saw that got her to say that.

Can you see in fourspace? I can't. I just see and perceive 3D. I'm open to the idea that our minds can and do operate in 4D. I accept that my brain and body are integrated into 4D. I am my past, present and future. But I can only see 3D. So, I'm open to the possibility that we can access your Akashic record -- short term for all knowledge -- and maybe I can pick up some advanced math skills at the same time. I'm chicken about taking mind altering drugs, so I'm willing to let others tell me about how it worked for them. At this time, it's beyond my ken.

So, I'm not disbelieving but skeptical. I don't discount that our minds can access the Akashic record. OTOH, I'm willing to discard that idea, especially when it comes with a free seven day trial that will help me find my personal angel.

 

[schuylaar]

Very much ,but there are many entities on the verge of this.Many are way Less friendly.Think brain chip -robot soldier suit man.

That's the whole point..if stupid ass Muck can people to do his bidding, there are plenty of Dr. Evils out there with will.

 

[schuylaar]

lobotomy is a procedure that severs connections to and from the prefrontal cortex. It did not kill the mind, the effects on people who were given them were described as emotionally blunted and restricted intellectually. It's quite possible that the prefontal cortex continued to function but could not communicate with the rest of the brain. That said, yes, there are functions we associate with a person's mind mind that depend on this region that are demonstrably lost when the prefrontal cortex is no longer interconnected with the rest of the brain.

The prefrontal cortex is interconnected with the rest of the brain. Executive functions are associated with that area but in order to perform those functions, it needs access to other areas, such as the hippocampus, where long term memories are stored and other areas of the brain that are involved in the senses, such as taste, touch and smell. Brain regions involved with attention, cognition, action and emotion are all interconnected with the PFC but don't reside there. The mind is all of these and more.

So Dr. Wiki..

What are the 5 functions of the prefrontal cortex?

This brain region has been implicated in executive functions, such as planning, decision making, short-term memory, personality expression, moderating social behavior and controlling certain aspects of speech and language.

Without the above you're a lump of clay..organisms can taste, touch and smell without a mind. Have you ever seen the results of a lobotomized person, the before and after? People were lobotomized for acting out in any manner that was not consistent with life during that time period. Depression, bipolar, wanting a divorce.

The white man was in charge of everything even the white woman.

 

[cannabineer]

So Dr. Wiki..

What are the 5 functions of the prefrontal cortex?

This brain region has been implicated in executive functions, such as planning, decision making, short-term memory, personality expression, moderating social behavior and controlling certain aspects of speech and language.

Without the above you're a lump of clay..organisms can taste, touch and smell without a mind. Have you ever seen the results of a lobotomized person, the before and after? People were lobotomized for acting out in any manner that was not consistent with life during that time period. Depression, bipolar, wanting a divorce.

The white man was in charge of everything even the white woman.

I think you are listing things that are “necessary but not sufficient”. Our explorations of mind have been reductionist and materialistic, because so far that is how our science works. (Injure this part of the brain, and that function suffers etc.)

In this manner, a locus for the seat of consciousness has not been identified. To me this suggests that we do not yet have an actual science of the mind.

 

[CANON_Grow]

did I speak of our disconnection from the Akashic record? Before i read that post, I didn't even know what that was. That was a rabbit hole to go down into. Fortunately one of the first sites I visited offered me a free 7 day trial where I could find my personal angel. I went into reverse with all possible speed.

That said, I think I referred to what you speak of when I posted the experience of a woman who during a near death experience related that she could understand things naturally, calculus, the universe and everything seemed within her grasp. A former classmate in college related her experiences with peyote and said we can learn whatever we want if we just think about it. She didn't last long in my Biochemistry class. But I do wonder what she saw that got her to say that.

Can you see in fourspace? I can't. I just see and perceive 3D. I'm open to the idea that our minds can and do operate in 4D. I accept that my brain and body are integrated into 4D. I am my past, present and future. But I can only see 3D. So, I'm open to the possibility that we can access your Akashic record -- short term for all knowledge -- and maybe I can pick up some advanced math skills at the same time. I'm chicken about taking mind altering drugs, so I'm willing to let others tell me about how it worked for them. At this time, it's beyond my ken.

So, I'm not disbelieving but skeptical. I don't discount that our minds can access the Akashic record. OTOH, I'm willing to discard that idea, especially when it comes with a free seven day trial that will help me find my personal angel.

Everyone should be extremely cognizant of the risks and potential downsides of taking mind altering drugs, no doubt about that. I'm encouraged that clinical studies are being done to seek out what potential benefits can be realized, as they would have screening, support, and following ethic guidelines before just jumping off the ship.

While it is easy to be skeptical about being able to communicate with another dimension (I have trouble believing ferries visit people from another place, while using DMT and other substances), I think the potential of some kind of communication, if that's even the right word, is more than plausible. If you read about the "Wood-Wide Web" and communication that happens across mycorrhizal fungal networks; we don't have the ability to explain how it happens but there is scientific proof that it does.

"Prof David Johnson, a microbial ecologist at the University of Manchester, wanted to find out if mycorrhizal networks could be used to send out advance warnings, letting plants know that an attack is on its way.
To do this, he introduced aphids to plants and watched how their neighbours reacted. “What we found was that plants have the same response when their neighbour is attacked,” he says, “but only when their root systems are connected by these common mycorrhizal fungal networks.”

Can the wood-wide web really help trees talk to each other?

There’s evidence that trees communicate via a vast, underground network of fungal connections – we dive in to the murky world of mycorrhizal networks.

www.sciencefocus.com

To further discuss the blind car crash victim being able to describe "seeing the room", it is quite possible that something in her brain processed a trauma that created an image in her head; but why isn't it possible that she was able to "see" using other senses that we observe in other species all the time? Using noise, vibration, magnetism, even using the vomeronasal organ, to create that "vision".

 

[schuylaar]

I think you are listing things that are “necessary but not sufficient”. Our explorations of mind have been reductionist and materialistic, because so far that is how our science works. (Injure this part of the brain, and that function suffers etc.)

In this manner, a locus for the seat of consciousness has not been identified. To me this suggests that we do not yet have an actual science of the mind.

Correct and since we fully don't understand it, we should move on to AI- total natural progression.

 

[cannabineer]

Correct and since we fully don't understand it, we should move on to AI- total natural progression.

No; we move onto AI because it makes someone money.

I would not be surprised if there is a derivative market somewhere where one can buy put options (make money going down) on human welfare.

 

[cannabineer]

(I have trouble believing ferries visit people from another place, while using DMT and other substances)

 

[schuylaar]

My hair blowing in the wind as I'm flying upper left.

 

[Fogdog]

So Dr. Wiki..

What are the 5 functions of the prefrontal cortex?

This brain region has been implicated in executive functions, such as planning, decision making, short-term memory, personality expression, moderating social behavior and controlling certain aspects of speech and language.

Without the above you're a lump of clay..organisms can taste, touch and smell without a mind. Have you ever seen the results of a lobotomized person, the before and after? People were lobotomized for acting out in any manner that was not consistent with life during that time period. Depression, bipolar, wanting a divorce.

The white man was in charge of everything even the white woman.

It sounds like you are disagreeing with me but I don't think we do. What you say is true but not sufficient. The mind of a healthy human is what you list and also much more than what you list. Also, people who were lobotomized were not lumps of clay. They were changed, aspects of their being were blunted. Most could not survive without assistance but they were alive and had a mind. They understood language, ate, talked and were able to cooperate with their caretakers, which was why mental institutions used that procedure as you say.. Also too,, their mind was broken because it was missing parts that were only available through the pre-frontal cortex.

If we turn the problem around, do you think the pre-frontal cortex is capable of performing its functions without the access to the rest of the brain and body? Plan what? If there is no access to information from the world, what use is that function? What short term memory could there be?

Take out the ability to hear and the mind changes. Take out the PFC and the mind changes. The mind is the sum of all the brain-body and at the same time more than all the brain-body.

 

[cannabineer]

this serendipitous find seems topical

 

[Ozumoz66]

AI is contributing to climate change and will continue at an accelerated pace.

Cryptocurrency consumes as much power as Norway or Australia.

AI should be able figure out how to perform more computations using less energy, but it won't - it's very inefficient and the intelligence is artificial. Maybe it'll figure out how to make education more affordable - we sure could use a more intelligent society overall.

No power, no packets! Just pull the cord and AI is offline!

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

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AI is contributing to climate change and will continue at an accelerated pace.

Cryptocurrency consumes as much power as Norway or Australia.

AI should be able figure out how to perform more computations using less energy, but it won't - it's very inefficient and the intelligence is artificial. Maybe it'll figure out how to make education more affordable - we sure could use a more intelligent society overall.

No power, no packets! Just pull the cord and AI is offline!

you just answered your own question...
Q: "Maybe it'll figure out how to make education more affordable - we sure could use a more intelligent society overall."
A: "Just pull the cord and AI is offline!"

 

[schuylaar]

did I speak of our disconnection from the Akashic record? Before i read that post, I didn't even know what that was. That was a rabbit hole to go down into. Fortunately one of the first sites I visited offered me a free 7 day trial where I could find my personal angel. I went into reverse with all possible speed.

That said, I think I referred to what you speak of when I posted the experience of a woman who during a near death experience related that she could understand things naturally, calculus, the universe and everything seemed within her grasp. A former classmate in college related her experiences with peyote and said we can learn whatever we want if we just think about it. She didn't last long in my Biochemistry class. But I do wonder what she saw that got her to say that.

Can you see in fourspace? I can't. I just see and perceive 3D. I'm open to the idea that our minds can and do operate in 4D. I accept that my brain and body are integrated into 4D. I am my past, present and future. But I can only see 3D. So, I'm open to the possibility that we can access your Akashic record -- short term for all knowledge -- and maybe I can pick up some advanced math skills at the same time. I'm chicken about taking mind altering drugs, so I'm willing to let others tell me about how it worked for them. At this time, it's beyond my ken.

So, I'm not disbelieving but skeptical. I don't discount that our minds can access the Akashic record. OTOH, I'm willing to discard that idea, especially when it comes with a free seven day trial that will help me find my personal angel.

<new tab opened with lightening speed>Akashic dammit! Then I read the rest.

I will tell you there is this amazing feeling of happiness and wellness with mushrooms. I'm going to start microdosing when grown.

I'm also going for Ketamine therapy when I find the right place..I've had one interview so far.

 

[schuylaar]

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AI is contributing to climate change and will continue at an accelerated pace.

Cryptocurrency consumes as much power as Norway or Australia.

AI should be able figure out how to perform more computations using less energy, but it won't - it's very inefficient and the intelligence is artificial. Maybe it'll figure out how to make education more affordable - we sure could use a more intelligent society overall.

No power, no packets! Just pull the cord and AI is offline!

First, I couldn't stop laughing at the pic above..a two minute Muttley for sure. Second, Bitcoin mining is not the deal Rural thought it would be..who wouldn't want a jet engine in your front yard? Third IT people attach cords via screws to wall so it's not disconnected by error..so it's not just an unplug.

If a computer becomes self-aware it will already have a plan(s) to insure it's survival.

 

[xtsho]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with AI or ML. It's just techology evolving. Instead of fearing it some of us are embracing it. The uses go way beyond some student getting ChatGPT to write a term paper. Those that are being critical of the technology just don't understand all of the possible uses that can provide benefit to society.

 

[schuylaar]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with AI or ML. It's just techology evolving. Instead of fearing it some of us are embracing it. The uses go way beyond some student getting ChatGPT to write a term paper. Those that are being critical of the technology just don't understand all of the possible uses that can provide benefit to society.

I think we're more questioning rather than fearing. The Musk power grid/satellite/dictatorship can happen in our lifetime and that's pretty disturbing.

 

[buckaclark]

did I speak of our disconnection from the Akashic record? Before i read that post, I didn't even know what that was. That was a rabbit hole to go down into. Fortunately one of the first sites I visited offered me a free 7 day trial where I could find my personal angel. I went into reverse with all possible speed.

That said, I think I referred to what you speak of when I posted the experience of a woman who during a near death experience related that she could understand things naturally, calculus, the universe and everything seemed within her grasp. A former classmate in college related her experiences with peyote and said we can learn whatever we want if we just think about it. She didn't last long in my Biochemistry class. But I do wonder what she saw that got her to say that.

Can you see in fourspace? I can't. I just see and perceive 3D. I'm open to the idea that our minds can and do operate in 4D. I accept that my brain and body are integrated into 4D. I am my past, present and future. But I can only see 3D. So, I'm open to the possibility that we can access your Akashic record -- short term for all knowledge -- and maybe I can pick up some advanced math skills at the same time. I'm chicken about taking mind altering drugs, so I'm willing to let others tell me about how it worked for them. At this time, it's beyond my ken.

So, I'm not disbelieving but skeptical. I don't discount that our minds can access the Akashic record. OTOH, I'm willing to discard that idea, especially when it comes with a free seven day trial that will help me find my personal angel.

You said " our brain is not isolated from the Universe or Universes" I assumed the Akashic record connection, Respectfully .

 

[buckaclark]

I think we're more questioning rather than fearing. The Musk power grid/satellite/dictatorship can happen in our lifetime and that's pretty disturbing.

Or a not so friendly country getting this done first.