Pot litres ain’t pot litres
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Billy the Mountain
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Your logic works only if the density of your medium is 1lb/liter
If you bought a 50 liter bag of mix, your results would be quite different.
ALPHA.GanjaGuy
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I think you are confusing liters and lbs.
fatboyOGOF
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there are, for example, 5 gallon bags that are really about 4 gallons if you pack the soil. then there are real 5 gallon bags, that hold 5 gallons.
these are noticeably larger than the 5 gallon bags most of us bought.
iPower Plant Grow Bag 5 Gallon 6-Pack Heavy Duty Fabric Pots, 300g Thick Nonwoven Fabric Containers Aeration with Nylon Handles, for Planting Vegetables, Fruits, Flowers, Tan 2022 Version
i read about the difference years ago. one is for commercial farmers, one is for us home gardeners. something like that.
it's weird and i call them liars. get yourself a true 5 gallon and grow some more buddage.
these are noticeably larger than the 5 gallon bags most of us bought.
iPower Plant Grow Bag 5 Gallon 6-Pack Heavy Duty Fabric Pots, 300g Thick Nonwoven Fabric Containers Aeration with Nylon Handles, for Planting Vegetables, Fruits, Flowers, Tan 2022 Version
i read about the difference years ago. one is for commercial farmers, one is for us home gardeners. something like that.
it's weird and i call them liars. get yourself a true 5 gallon and grow some more buddage.
Dry measure volume (soil mix) isn't liquid measure volume (container size).
en.wikipedia.org
"There are very few standards regarding container sizes and volumes. To make it even more confusing, containers that do list volume typically measure using liquid quarts. Of course, potting soil is not a liquid, so the bags contain dry quarts, each of which equals about 1 1/8 liquid quarts. Nor do these figures account for any packing down of the soil (the taller the container, the greater the compression). Compression can cause you to need 15% to 20% more soil. On the flip side, the soil that comes with your plants (around the roots) will add volume. In any case, it never hurts to have a little extra potting soil on hand."
bonnieplants.com
Dry measure - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
"There are very few standards regarding container sizes and volumes. To make it even more confusing, containers that do list volume typically measure using liquid quarts. Of course, potting soil is not a liquid, so the bags contain dry quarts, each of which equals about 1 1/8 liquid quarts. Nor do these figures account for any packing down of the soil (the taller the container, the greater the compression). Compression can cause you to need 15% to 20% more soil. On the flip side, the soil that comes with your plants (around the roots) will add volume. In any case, it never hurts to have a little extra potting soil on hand."
A Guide to How Much Potting Soil You Need for Your Pots
How many pots in your container garden can you fill with a bag of potting soil? Find the answer here.
bonnieplants.com
Hugo Phurst
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If 50lbs of soil is only filling a 50 L pot half way, IMO the soil is way too heavy.
I recommend you use something like this.
I recommend you use something like this.
2cent
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Soil is peat ewc n pearlite it’s fluffy as shit lol watched a vid saying to measure soil using a 1l jug so I have been and seems to add up to the statement on the bags too
So don’t understand why the 55 pot be half ful? Unless they account for extra room for lighter soils extra stones etc ?
So don’t understand why the 55 pot be half ful? Unless they account for extra room for lighter soils extra stones etc ?
Hugo Phurst
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Sorry misread your original post.
Maybe you got sent the wrong size pot. IMO a bigger pot means a bigger plant. Awfully hard to move 100L pot of wet soil though.
Maybe you got sent the wrong size pot. IMO a bigger pot means a bigger plant. Awfully hard to move 100L pot of wet soil though.
2cent
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Exactly why am asking lol there heavy as shit now if the soil measure was wrong then I need more soil no idea how much but there gona get heavy lol
bam0813
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Container and Pot Sizes: How Much Soil Do I Need?
Learn how much soil you will need for each size container in your container garden. Get exactly the soil you need for each container.
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Hugo Phurst
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Just out of curiousity, what are the dimensions of the pots?
eg. my 10 gal pots are 15.5in tall by 16in diameter & the 25 gal are 18in tall by 22.5in diameter.
2cent
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450mm 450mm and 380mm high
hprincton
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They are all like that. Grow bags that are called one or number one or one gal. or one ga. or one gallon, are all larger than the hard plastic pots with holes in them which are also calles ones. The grow bags hold more volume. Like one other poster mentioned liquid and dry measure are different because of air space or you might say density but these aren't units. One cup could have more or less, you cannot pack or fluff a liquid. Mixing gravel and sand will reduce the overall volume. Not with liquid. They may usually hold more than 3,780 milliliters, unlike a can of soda pop or something. They all seem individual, no standard. More material than advertised in my experience. I could go now and actually measure but them being larger seems to be enough for me. I won't use smaller ones when I have larger ones (grow bags). Air pots and smart pots are cool too. I am not sure whether we or the plants really care all that much honestly bucket or bin paper or plastic.
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Hugo Phurst
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That's almost 77L or 20 Gal, guess that's why 50 L only half filled it.
Fallguy111
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A five gallon bucket of moist ewc is just over 25lb. It sounds as if your mix is twice as dense as straight castings? I'm s their a boulder in the bag?
2cent
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What ?
nah I baught 40litres ewc measured with 1l jug gave me 41 jugs of cast
Fallguy111
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His 50lb bag filled half of his 50l grow bag. IME about 30lbs of ewc will fill half of a 50l grow bag. That means his soil mix is twice the weight per volume of just castings. That seems heavy unless its being weighed fully saturated.