Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated

PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Drop That Sound said:
I watched so many people lie and use the fear of covid as an excuse to get out of work and other responsabilities. Of course they would begin to believe the lie when they use it too.
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LOL, my work policy is that I'm required to stay home for 10-days after testing positive for covid, whether I like it or not. I don't believe a lot of the propaganda surrounding covid, but I am pretty in touch with my body and know how it's feeling. I'm generally pretty healthy, which has helped me to get through it fairly easily however.
 
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PJ Diaz said:
Here you go, from the NIH website:

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein causes cardiovascular disease independent of viral infection - PubMed

The SARS-CoV-2 virus that results in COVID-19 has been found to damage multiple organs beyond the lung. Interestingly, the SARS-CoV-2 spike (S) protein can be found circulating in the blood of COVID-19 patients. Experimental findings are demonstrating that the circulating S protein can bind to...
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SARS-CoV-2 spike protein causes cardiovascular disease independent of viral infection

Abstract. The SARS-CoV-2 virus that results in COVID-19 has been found to damage multiple organs beyond the lung. Interestingly, the SARS-CoV-2 spike (S) protein can be found circulating in the blood of COVID-19 patients. Experimental findings are demonstrating that the circulating S protein can...
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Interesting. Trouble is that in my searches, I have found a shotgun spread of “any answer I seek” in published abstracts on the spike protein, either natural or vaccine-induced. So I’m waiting for a review article in one of the flagships, like Nature or Lancet.

I also turn up utter crap like this, that shares the stage with more sober submissions. Look up Stephanie Sennef some day if you want a lesson in spectacularly bad science used to prop up sensational scare claims, like her debunked vaccines/autism “work”.

 
Budley Doright

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PJ Diaz said:
Here you go, from the NIH website:

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein causes cardiovascular disease independent of viral infection - PubMed

The SARS-CoV-2 virus that results in COVID-19 has been found to damage multiple organs beyond the lung. Interestingly, the SARS-CoV-2 spike (S) protein can be found circulating in the blood of COVID-19 patients. Experimental findings are demonstrating that the circulating S protein can bind to...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Full version:

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein causes cardiovascular disease independent of viral infection

Abstract. The SARS-CoV-2 virus that results in COVID-19 has been found to damage multiple organs beyond the lung. Interestingly, the SARS-CoV-2 spike (S) protein can be found circulating in the blood of COVID-19 patients. Experimental findings are demonstrating that the circulating S protein can...
portlandpress.com portlandpress.com
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But are the spike proteins not different in the vaccine compared to the actual virus itself? Just curious about the relevance of what you posted? I didn’t read it all so hoping for the coles notes version of your hypothesis. I’ve got boats to put away :(
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Budley Doright said:
But are the spike proteins not different in the vaccine compared to the actual virus itself? Just curious about the relevance of what you posted? I didn’t read it all so hoping for the coles notes version of your hypothesis. I’ve got boats to put away :(
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They are the same, but the spike protein isn't in the vaccine per se, your body produces it from the information in the mRNA vaccine.
 
PJ Diaz

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Drop That Sound said:
So then, some peoples bodies would produce spikier proteins, which would make the symptoms worse for some?
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Sure, that's how mutations (aka variants) occur. The mutation could also make the symptom "better" as well, which is the case of the current circulating strains vs the Delta variant.
 
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Say the virus got into me, whether the wild strains, or even shed from vaccinated folks or whatever.. Which i'm sure it has, probably every variant by now. That or I'm completely immune (or its a hoax like I've been saying) and only caught regular colds, which sound about right.. but we'll never know because i won't go near a toxic test. Does that mean whatever mutation of spike proteins my body was creating from the virus are going to be less severe to just me and me alone?

Or could I pass my mutated form of the virus onto someone else, and they would also have a less severe reaction like i've mostly had? Or would their body create its own form of spikes no matter what variant or person they caught it from?

How do you know that the way someone consciously handles their reaction to the virus doesn't somehow alter the outcome from then on? Is the virus always in control, or can you literally control it with your mind? What if I am the one that created the less severe variants, because I simply feel its a hoax all along, and figured my immune system would f'ing destroy that weak common covid, like it pretty much did. Now its less severe for everyone else too. YW!

Which mutation would you guys rather have? Wouldn't you rather just catch it from someone who is known for not having bad long term symptoms?

Or, are you guys telling me jab after jab with an artificial concoction of ingredients made to create spike proteins is better than anyone else's ability to create them, and help the virus pass through easier? I feel like I live in a symbioses with it already, and never have to worry again. I respect it. To me its just the same common colds/flu as always.

Why would you want to go messing with the natural order of things? Telling me that humans ideas about viruses are better than mother nature..
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Drop That Sound said:
Say the virus got into me, whether the wild strains, or even shed from vaccinated folks or whatever.. Which i'm sure it has, probably every variant by now. That or I'm completely immune (or its a hoax like I've been saying) and only caught regular colds, which sound about right.. but we'll never know because i won't go near a toxic test. Does that mean whatever mutation of spike proteins my body was creating from the virus are going to be less severe to just me and me alone?

Or could I pass my mutated form of the virus onto someone else, and they would also have a less severe reaction like i've mostly had? Or would their body create its own form of spikes no matter what variant or person they caught it from?

How do you know that the way someone consciously handles their reaction to the virus doesn't somehow alter the outcome from then on? Is the virus always in control, or can you literally control it with your mind? What if I am the one that created the less severe variants, because I simply feel its a hoax all along, and figured my immune system would f'ing destroy that weak common covid, like it pretty much did. Now its less severe for everyone else too. YW!

Which mutation would you guys rather have? Wouldn't you rather just catch it from someone who is known for not having bad long term symptoms?

Or, are you guys telling me jab after jab with an artificial concoction of ingredients made to create spike proteins is better than anyone else's ability to create them, and help the virus pass through easier? I feel like I live in a symbioses with it already, and never have to worry again. I respect it. To me its just the same common colds/flu as always.

Why would you want to go messing with the natural order of things? Telling me that humans ideas about viruses are better than mother nature..
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PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Drop That Sound said:
Say the virus got into me, whether the wild strains, or even shed from vaccinated folks or whatever.. Which i'm sure it has, probably every variant by now. That or I'm completely immune (or its a hoax like I've been saying) and only caught regular colds, which sound about right.. but we'll never know because i won't go near a toxic test. Does that mean whatever mutation of spike proteins my body was creating from the virus are going to be less severe to just me and me alone?

Or could I pass my mutated form of the virus onto someone else, and they would also have a less severe reaction like i've mostly had? Or would their body create its own form of spikes no matter what variant or person they caught it from?
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Theoretically they would replicate a copy of your same version of the virus in their system. However it could also mutate in their system, to then be passed on accordingly. It's much like a clone of a cannabis plant; it's generally a copy produced, however mutations do occur along the line, which continue to be replicated in continued viral generations.
 
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I'm pretty sure I just had RSV. Started coughing Saturday night and by Sunday I had a temperature of 103.4°F. The lady started getting sick Monday and had a temperature close to 103°F Tuesday. We both tested negative for Covid multiple times. It went away as fast as it came on. I just took my temp and it was 98°F. Whatever it was I was miserable for a couple days. Terrible headache, cough, and literally soaking the sheets in bed with sweat to the point that they had to be changed. I don't know for sure if it was RSV and I don't care if it was that or the flu. All I know is that is was a couple days of hell.
 
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