Examples of GOP Leadership

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus

DIY-HP-LED

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While I don’t expect the recount to change the outcome, the need for it underlines how close she came to being defeated, despite the gerrymander.
If she wants to keep the con going, she needs to STFU and hire a brain to tell he what to say and how to use cutlery, a minder or handler, like Herschel needs, you know adult supervision.
 

injinji

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My takeaway from this. .. The Repubs had 8 years of Obama, and I understand that bad things happen during every Presidency. America grew weary to make a change. Along comes Trump. . . . . .

. . . . . . . . .We've never been more divided in this Country than we are now... . . . . . . .
You may not have noticed, but Barrack was black. All the white trash who used to never vote noticed though, and all of a sudden decided that they did need to vote. Trumpf didn't create the hate, he just used it to get himself into the WH. Now all those guys who used to operate their backhoe all day and drink half the night without bothering anyone but their immediate neighbors are the backbone of the MAGA movement, and bothering the whole country.

May I remind you of the events of April 12th, 1861?
 

injinji

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has rick scott ever actually answered a question? i can't recall him ever once actually replying in a meaningful way to a direct question...
it must be hell going to lunch with him..."where do you want to eat, rick?"..."well, we need to be looking forward to dinner, and not backwards toward breakfast...".... :-?
Of all the fucked up Florida GOP'ers, Scott is the worst. I find it ironic that he was in charge of their senate election effort and he blamed the tortoise for their loss.
 

injinji

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With all the talk about how hard it is going to be for the GOP to even elect a speaker, much less govern, I came up with a plan. McCarthy or whoever the speaker is, has to have 218 votes. What if the blue team picked the most moderate republican and all voted for that person? All that would be needed was for a few votes from their side of the isle, and we could pick the speaker. If nothing else it would cause more infighting.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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My takeaway from this. .. The Repubs had 8 years of Obama, and I understand that bad things happen during every Presidency. America grew weary to make a change. Along comes Trump. It was a hell of a rally. He got everyone fired up again (myself included). We watched the debates, and really wanted to see some change. He did rally the Repubs, and created a lot of hate from the Dems, but the flash in the pan is gone Im afraid. We got a couple more years to see someone else come along that will put us back on track, ease International tension, open trade deals (that's good for everyone), and maybe,... just maybe blur the lines between this divide we have. We've never been more divided in this Country than we are now... and we need to stop that. We're all one. Here's to hoping that the future is a little brighter.
The republican heads shoved up Trump's ass crack never gained them any respect, neither did trying to destroy the US constitution and cheat and gerrymander their way to a majority in the house. What did they lose the national popular vote by versus the number of seats they have? Minority rule is not popular. Take another example, the senate, it represents geography, not people. The original purpose of the electoral college was to disqualify people like Trump and again does not represent the popular will of the country.

Here it is in a nutshell, America is an imperfect liberal democracy with minority rule and if it was more of a democracy you would move into the future like everybody else in the liberal democratic world. America is an approximate copy of the British government of the 16th century fixed by a written constitution. The President replaced the King, the house the Parliament and the senate the house of Lords. However, since that time parliamentary democracy has evolved and responded social and revolutionary change. The King lost his powers and is now just a ceremonial head of state with few powers except to dissolve the government right out from under a PM. The house of Lords lost its powers too power became concentrated in Parliament and with the PM and cabinet. This model was copied throughout the empire and adapted in Europe with either a ceremonial president as head of state or a King.

In Canada there isn't much division of power, there is a multiparty democratically elected parliament, an unelected senate with no power and the GG takes care of changing the government should someone become an asshole. Elections are run by Election Canada; they set the district boundaries and enforce election law elections Canada is an independent body. Choices are simple, we don't elect judges, prosecutors or dog catchers, they are government jobs, so ballots are simple and marked with a golf pencil. Local parties select candidates, but if they select a nut, a bolt from on high in the party leadership can remove them from the ballot to protect the "brand". Not many Canadians are members of political parties, you register to vote by checking a box on your income tax form and there are no primaries, but several parties, I'm a member of the Liberal party of Canada. They legalized pot and I and many others had a bigger say than most who were not party members, back when I joined it was $10. and now is free, I believe, I haven't renewed for a spell, I stepped back a bit from politics when I moved back east.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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With all the talk about how hard it is going to be for the GOP to even elect a speaker, much less govern, I came up with a plan. McCarthy or whoever the speaker is, has to have 218 votes. What if the blue team picked the most moderate republican and all voted for that person? All that would be needed was for a few votes from their side of the isle, and we could pick the speaker. If nothing else it would cause more infighting.
Liz Cheney, the speaker does not have to be an elected member all it would take would be 4 moderate republicans or perhaps 2 with democratic support. She might be the daughter of Darth Vader and a policy asshole, but at least she is sane and would have the backing of Mitch, for what it's worth in the house. They could torpedo McCarthy and Trump would have a conniption.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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CBS REPORTS
Texas laws allow teachers to carry guns on school grounds with little regulation
They've been doing it for a while now anyways. While I do support this, I'd like to see more training. More training than the Military. What makes this hard to swallow, it that you have 1 active shooter, and 100-200 ankle biters running rampant ... you almost have to be a sharp shooter to hit your target. Then you have to be aware of what's behind the target. I can't see this scenario being to the teachers advantage that much. A better idea would be to hire trained security.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
They've been doing it for a while now anyways. While I do support this, I'd like to see more training. More training than the Military. What makes this hard to swallow, it that you have 1 active shooter, and 100-200 ankle biters running rampant ... you almost have to be a sharp shooter to hit your target. Then you have to be aware of what's behind the target. I can't see this scenario being to the teachers advantage that much. A better idea would be to hire trained security.
The big problem I see is that it takes time to transition from teacher mode to fighter mode. Intensive training can shorten but not eliminate the delay. Any assailant is already in fighter mode; impossible to get the drop on him. Nobody but law enforcement should be allowed to have a weapon on school grounds. Trained security is expensive, and many schools cannot even afford textbooks.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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The big problem I see is that it takes time to transition from teacher mode to fighter mode. Intensive training can shorten but not eliminate the delay. Any assailant is already in fighter mode; impossible to get the drop on him. Nobody but law enforcement should be allowed to have a weapon on school grounds. Trained security is expensive, and many schools cannot even afford textbooks.
I can certainly understand this catch 22.
How the hell do people just sneak in anyways? I live outside of a small town, and haven't been in a school in decades. I got a call to come do some filming for the local ... whatever (maybe the Chamber of Commerce?), and I had to go through 2 remote bypass locked doors, a metal detector, get a visitors pass, sign a form.... just to get in the door. And this is in a small town of 22,000 population.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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@cannabineer ... Here's a perfect example to your response. I have guns just about anywhere within reach. I train when the weather is nice, and I have plenty of that caliber of ammo. But one day, me and the Mrs. were coming back from out of town, and she needed to stop at the Dollar Store for something. I waited in the car for her. This truck pulls up beside me (pass side) gets out like he's going in the store and suddenly, he's in my front pass seat.... I wasn't ready. I had a gun in the console, but it happened so fast. ... Im ashamed to say I locked up. He looked at me and said "sorry, I thought this was my brothers car"... I just said "That's a good way to get shot". You almost have to have your head on a swivel ... which is no way to live. It all happened in about 7 seconds.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I can certainly understand this catch 22.
How the hell do people just sneak in anyways? I live outside of a small town, and haven't been in a school in decades. I got a call to come do some filming for the local ... whatever (maybe the Chamber of Commerce?), and I had to go through 2 remote bypass locked doors, a metal detector, get a visitors pass, sign a form.... just to get in the door. And this is in a small town of 22,000 population.
That sounds awful, like a fortress. The schools I’ve seen in CA are opener; I could always walk into the office where my kids went to school.
I would really dislike to be a student under effective siege conditions.

Schools have become targets. The only sensible response I see is to make having a weapon in a school a Federal felony and prosecuting the living shit out of violators.
 
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