Those were the Trump years. Crimes Against Humanity abounded..he knew minority populace was at great risk with Covid 19; kept it secret.
Red Wave 2022
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Well, first you say you can't find it..need I say more?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I still haven’t. We are still at the alleged stage.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I know that. I also know that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I’ve been burnt before when I took the shortcut of wanting something to be true.
topcat
Well-Known Member
It's the two senators that gets to me.
printer
Well-Known Member
ICE to End the Use of Georgia Facility at Center of Hysterectomy Allegations
he Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced Thursday morning that it will end its use of two facilities, including the Irwin County Detention Center in Ocilla, Ga., where a whistleblower alleges a doctor performed unwanted hysterectomies and other medical procedures without consent.
According to a statement from DHS, Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas directed Tae Johnson, acting secretary of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to prepare to end the use of the facility “as soon as possible.” The Irwin County Detention Center is operated by La Salle Corrections, a private company. The preparations include “preservation of evidence for ongoing investigations, relocation of ICE personnel if necessary, and the transfer of detained noncitizens whose continued detention remains necessary to achieve our national security, public safety, and border security mission,” according to DHS.
“We have an obligation to make lasting improvements to our civil immigration detention system,” Mayorkas said in a public statement. “This marks an important first step to realizing that goal. DHS detention facilities and the treatment of individuals in those facilities will be held to our health and safety standards. Where we discover they fall short, we will continue to take action as we are doing today.”
The second facility, the C. Carlos Carreiro Immigration Detention Center in North Dartmouth, Massachusetts, is also at the center of mistreatment allegations and is under federal investigation. DHS announced Thursday it is ending its contract with the Bristol County Sheriff’s Office (BCSO), which oversee’s the facility. A 2020 investigation by the Massachusetts Attorney General found the BCSO violated the civil rights of immigrant detainees during an incident that occurred on May 1, 2020. On that day, detainees refused to consent to COVID-19 testing and isolation, according to a report by the state’s Attorney General published in December 2020, and were met with “excessive and disproportionate” force, including a flash bang grenade, pepper-ball launchers, pepper spray canisters, anti-riot shields and canines.
“We are thrilled about this development,” Azadeh Shahshahani, legal and advocacy director at Project South, said in a statement to TIME. Project South, a legal and advocacy nonprofit based in Atlanta, is one of the organizations who published Dawn Wooten’s whistleblower testimony that includes allegations that a doctor performed unwanted gynecological procedures on more than a dozen women detained at Irwin. “Given its extensively documented history of human rights violations, Irwin should have been shut down long ago. We will not rest until the women who suffered medical abuse at Irwin receive a measure of redress and compensation. And until ICE and the prison corporation LaSalle are held accountable for allowing the abuses to take place.”
Shahshahani is also co-council in a class action lawsuit against ICE that was filed in December 2020 on behalf of the women detained at Irwin.
ICE to End the Use of Georgia Facility at Center of Hysterectomy Allegations
DHS will end the use of two of its facilities, including the Georgia detention center facing allegations of gynecological abuse.
More Than 40 Women File Class Action Lawsuit Alleging Medical Misconduct by ICE Doctor at Georgia Detention Center
ore than 40 women are now a part of a consolidated class action lawsuit against U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Dr. Mahendra Amin, a gynecologist accused of performing unnecessary or unwanted medical procedures, including hysterectomies, on women detained at the Irwin County Detention Center in Georgia.
The class action lawsuit was filed Monday evening in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia on behalf of 14 women, some of whom are still detained and others who have been deported, alleging Amin performed unnecessary and nonconsensual medical procedures on them as far back as 2018. Including the 14 named women, in total more than 40 women provided sworn testimony as part of the lawsuit alleging malpractice by the gynecologist, who is also under investigation by Congress and the Department of Homeland Security Office of the Inspector General (OIG) after a former nurse at the facility, Dawn Wooten, filed a whistleblower report on Sept. 14.
“This consolidated action is significant because we have been able to establish a pattern of medical abuse at Irwin,” Azadeh Shahshahani, legal and advocacy director at Project South and co-counsel on the lawsuit, tells TIME. “As part of the lawsuit we’re gonna show that ICE knew as far back as 2018 that there was medical abuse taking place.”
A September investigation by the Associated Press said it could not find a pattern of mass hysterectomies performed, but revealed a pattern of nonconsensual medical procedures performed at Irwin. Since the whistleblower complaint, several lawsuits had been filed on behalf of individual women who alleged experiencing medical malpractice while being treated by Amin, but a Georgia judge ordered the lawsuits be consolidated. Amin is no longer treating patients at the facility, according to the AP.
More Than 40 Women Provide Testimony Alleging Medical Abuse By ICE Doctor at Irwin County Detention Center
The lawsuit on behalf of 14 women alleges Amin performed unnecessary and nonconsensual medical procedures on them as far back as 2018.
CONSOLIDATED AMENDED PETITION FOR WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS AND CLASS ACTION COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AND FOR DAMAGES
And for further reading.
“HE’S THE UTERUS COLLECTOR” THE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS OF WOMEN IN ICE DETENTION: AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF FEDERAL DETAINEES IN PRIVATELY RUN FACILITIES
Fogdog
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Yes, the claim of "mass hysterectomies" uses loaded words and in fact ICE data shows 2 hysterectomies on record since 2018. Others say "five" or "several". The whistleblower estimates 20. Neither the whistleblower or Project South, an “organization for social justice work in the U.S. South” use the term mass hysterectomies. Project South alleges "jarring medical neglect". So, that "mass" bit is overwrought and was added to the narrative later. Something very unsettling went down. 57 women testified that a gynecologist performed procedures on them without their permission or pressured them into those procedures. This happened while they were held in at an ICE contractor's detention facility. At the very least, informed medical consent was not clearly obtained by the gynecologist at the center of this controversy.
FactCheck: were ‘mass hysterectomies’ performed on detainees at a US immigration centre?
Let’s take a look at what we know so far.
www.channel4.com
An investigation is ongoing. There is a long history of medical malpractice on women in detention that was first dismissed and later found to be true. So, I'm not going to go so far as to say this requires extraordinary evidence before I conclude that some women were harmed by the people who were supposed to protect them. Two women claim to have been subjected to a hysterectomy against their will. Until I see evidence to contradict them, I'll believe that it happened. I also believe the system did not meet standards of care that we expect from a government detention center.
xtsho
Well-Known Member
That proves nothing.ICE to End the Use of Georgia Facility at Center of Hysterectomy Allegations
he Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced Thursday morning that it will end its use of two facilities, including the Irwin County Detention Center in Ocilla, Ga., where a whistleblower alleges a doctor performed unwanted hysterectomies and other medical procedures without consent.
According to a statement from DHS, Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas directed Tae Johnson, acting secretary of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to prepare to end the use of the facility “as soon as possible.” The Irwin County Detention Center is operated by La Salle Corrections, a private company. The preparations include “preservation of evidence for ongoing investigations, relocation of ICE personnel if necessary, and the transfer of detained noncitizens whose continued detention remains necessary to achieve our national security, public safety, and border security mission,” according to DHS.
“We have an obligation to make lasting improvements to our civil immigration detention system,” Mayorkas said in a public statement. “This marks an important first step to realizing that goal. DHS detention facilities and the treatment of individuals in those facilities will be held to our health and safety standards. Where we discover they fall short, we will continue to take action as we are doing today.”
The second facility, the C. Carlos Carreiro Immigration Detention Center in North Dartmouth, Massachusetts, is also at the center of mistreatment allegations and is under federal investigation. DHS announced Thursday it is ending its contract with the Bristol County Sheriff’s Office (BCSO), which oversee’s the facility. A 2020 investigation by the Massachusetts Attorney General found the BCSO violated the civil rights of immigrant detainees during an incident that occurred on May 1, 2020. On that day, detainees refused to consent to COVID-19 testing and isolation, according to a report by the state’s Attorney General published in December 2020, and were met with “excessive and disproportionate” force, including a flash bang grenade, pepper-ball launchers, pepper spray canisters, anti-riot shields and canines.
“We are thrilled about this development,” Azadeh Shahshahani, legal and advocacy director at Project South, said in a statement to TIME. Project South, a legal and advocacy nonprofit based in Atlanta, is one of the organizations who published Dawn Wooten’s whistleblower testimony that includes allegations that a doctor performed unwanted gynecological procedures on more than a dozen women detained at Irwin. “Given its extensively documented history of human rights violations, Irwin should have been shut down long ago. We will not rest until the women who suffered medical abuse at Irwin receive a measure of redress and compensation. And until ICE and the prison corporation LaSalle are held accountable for allowing the abuses to take place.”
Shahshahani is also co-council in a class action lawsuit against ICE that was filed in December 2020 on behalf of the women detained at Irwin.
ICE to End the Use of Georgia Facility at Center of Hysterectomy Allegations
DHS will end the use of two of its facilities, including the Georgia detention center facing allegations of gynecological abuse.time.com
More Than 40 Women File Class Action Lawsuit Alleging Medical Misconduct by ICE Doctor at Georgia Detention Center
ore than 40 women are now a part of a consolidated class action lawsuit against U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Dr. Mahendra Amin, a gynecologist accused of performing unnecessary or unwanted medical procedures, including hysterectomies, on women detained at the Irwin County Detention Center in Georgia.
The class action lawsuit was filed Monday evening in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia on behalf of 14 women, some of whom are still detained and others who have been deported, alleging Amin performed unnecessary and nonconsensual medical procedures on them as far back as 2018. Including the 14 named women, in total more than 40 women provided sworn testimony as part of the lawsuit alleging malpractice by the gynecologist, who is also under investigation by Congress and the Department of Homeland Security Office of the Inspector General (OIG) after a former nurse at the facility, Dawn Wooten, filed a whistleblower report on Sept. 14.
“This consolidated action is significant because we have been able to establish a pattern of medical abuse at Irwin,” Azadeh Shahshahani, legal and advocacy director at Project South and co-counsel on the lawsuit, tells TIME. “As part of the lawsuit we’re gonna show that ICE knew as far back as 2018 that there was medical abuse taking place.”
A September investigation by the Associated Press said it could not find a pattern of mass hysterectomies performed, but revealed a pattern of nonconsensual medical procedures performed at Irwin. Since the whistleblower complaint, several lawsuits had been filed on behalf of individual women who alleged experiencing medical malpractice while being treated by Amin, but a Georgia judge ordered the lawsuits be consolidated. Amin is no longer treating patients at the facility, according to the AP.
More Than 40 Women Provide Testimony Alleging Medical Abuse By ICE Doctor at Irwin County Detention Center
The lawsuit on behalf of 14 women alleges Amin performed unnecessary and nonconsensual medical procedures on them as far back as 2018.
CONSOLIDATED AMENDED PETITION FOR WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS AND CLASS ACTION COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AND FOR DAMAGES
And for further reading.
“HE’S THE UTERUS COLLECTOR” THE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS OF WOMEN IN ICE DETENTION: AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF FEDERAL DETAINEES IN PRIVATELY RUN FACILITIES
The facility should have been shut down a decade ago because it was a dilapidated facility.
It also seems like everything centers around one sick doctor and his deviant sexual proclivities taking unwanted privileges with women in detention.
People can hate trump all they want and I do but I'm not going to go along with some nonsense about him giving the green light for forced hysterectomies. That's Qanon material. This topic started when someone stated that trump was doing forced hysterectomies.
Here's the snippet:
"Trump did forced hysterectomies on brown people that came to this country."
That's completely false and should not be spread around the way the right spreads the same kind of nonsense.
"A September investigation by the Associated Press said it could not find a pattern of mass hysterectomies performed"
“In many instances, the medically unindicated gynecological procedures Respondent Amin performed on Petitioners amounted to sexual assault,” the consolidated lawsuit states.
Roger A. Shrubber
Well-Known Member
Yeah, i don't like trump worth a fuck, but i don't want any inaccuracies in the litany of his sins.
trump is at least 50% weasel, and can't be allowed the slightest loophole, or he will force his enormous fat orange ass through it like a cockroach flattening out to go under a closed door. All claims against him must be valid and accurate.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
That is in line with the level of malfeasance I imagined. Not trivial, but also not Totenkopf-SS.Yes, the claim of "mass hysterectomies" uses loaded words and in fact ICE data shows 2 hysterectomies on record since 2018. Others say "five" or "several". The whistleblower estimates 20. Neither the whistleblower or Project South, an “organization for social justice work in the U.S. South” use the term mass hysterectomies. Project South alleges "jarring medical neglect". So, that "mass" bit is overwrought and was added to the narrative later. Something very unsettling went down. 57 women testified that a gynecologist performed procedures on them without their permission or pressured them into those procedures. This happened while they were held in at an ICE contractor's detention facility. At the very least, informed medical consent was not clearly obtained by the gynecologist at the center of this controversy.
FactCheck: were ‘mass hysterectomies’ performed on detainees at a US immigration centre?
Let’s take a look at what we know so far.
An investigation is ongoing. There is a long history of medical malpractice on women in detention that was first dismissed and later found to be true. So, I'm not going to go so far as to say this requires extraordinary evidence before I conclude that some women were harmed by the people who were supposed to protect them. Two women claim to have been subjected to a hysterectomy against their will. Until I see evidence to contradict them, I'll believe that it happened. I also believe the system did not meet standards of care that we expect from a government detention center.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
Then again, Trump's policies set in motion countless atrocities that he was not directly involved in. This scandal was due in part to the reckless changes in policies at the border that led to a rapid rise in people being held at ICE detention facilities. Some of the blame goes to the leader who forced changes ahead of the ability of people to safely implement them.
Roger A. Shrubber
Well-Known Member
uneasy rests the fathead that wears the crown...
which is totally untrue, if trump has ever had a bad nights sleep, it's been over worry about his own fat orange ass, and not anyone else's.
i don't imagine he was aware of these details, but i also don't imagine he would have given one fuck if he was aware.
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
This would be wild! Keep the house and up in the senate. The Magats will be freaking bigly if that happens.
Roger A. Shrubber
Well-Known Member
as i've already said...the democrats didn't win the midterms, the republicans lost them.
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
Joe might be able to knock off a republican in a state with a democratic governor with a plum job or ambassadorship. It's been done before, the ole stab in the back! 
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
The race for the house looks interesting and offers possibilities, even if the republicans gain it by a seat or two, they might not though and that could lead to some good old-fashioned shenanigans by Joe, if he's a seat short in the house...
Between Nancy and Joe, they can find the weak link in the GOP house...
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
like two years ago, another Slow Blue Soak
xtsho
Well-Known Member
It's great that they flipped that seat but I'm across the river in Oregon in the same television market and the damn political ads for that race were driving me crazy. Her ad's were on constantly. She comes from a family of loggers, heats her home with a wood stove, and owns an auto shop. I feel like I've known her all my life. They dumped a ton of money on ads. It was airwave saturation.
The thing is that Jamie Herrera Butler would have easily held on to that seat but they primaried her with a crazy trumper and she lost setting the stage for the Democrats to go after that seat very aggressively and it paid off.
Democrat Perez tops Kent to flip the 3rd Congressional District
Democrat Marie Gluesenkamp Perez appears to have flipped Washington’s 3rd Congressional District after new vote tallies from Clark and Thurston counties Saturday show her fending off a late comeback a
www.columbian.com
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
You said it and I disagree. If Biden's administration had not passed the most aggressive measures to address human caused climate change, if we stayed in Afghanistan much longer, if Biden had not cancelled some of the education debt burden, his administration did a magnificent job of distributing vaccines, and basically show voters what an effective government looks like, Democrats would have lost the Senate and the lost House by a larger margin. Maybe a few more election deniers would have won seats in the states. Yes, Republicans committed own goals that teed this election cycle up for a Democratic Party win but if they had just diddled the time away like Republicans did under Trump, enough people would have said "why bother?" to shift the election to a more palatable one for Trump's MAGA. Biden and Democratic Party leadership did not make mistakes like the GOP did. It's hard to give credit for not making mistakes but one can at least recognize that Democrats did not.
I don't understand why Democrats are so quick to forget what a bad government looks like and credit their leadership for what they did and did not do. Some people can't be satisfied good performance, I guess.