Red Wave 2022

DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Donald did his job for the democrats this time, it's time to dispose of him and brainwash the base, to the extent they can. Carrying Donald on their backs is costing them and he is about to go from being on fire to exploding when the indictments drop. He has one more service to provide for the democrats in Georgia by clinging to Herschel to delay indictments. Garland could bust him any week or wait until the runoff in Georgia.


Joe: GOP Pulled January 6 Into Election Day, And They Paid For It

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Joe Scarborough and the Morning Joe panel discuss how the mocking, ridicule and hatred from some in the Republican Party impacted the midterm elections.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Trump says he’s ‘not at all angry’ about midterm results
Former President Trump on Thursday pushed back on reports that he is angry and spreading blame for Democrats’ better-than-expected night.
“For those many people that are being fed the fake narrative from the corrupt media that I am Angry about the Midterms, don’t believe it,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “I am not at all angry, did a great job (I wasn’t the one running!), and am very busy looking into the future. Remember, I am a ‘Stable Genius.’”

The former president’s comments came after The New York Times reported that Trump is privately spread blame for the loss of Pennsylvania Republican Senate nominee Mehmet Oz, whom Trump endorsed in the primary.

The Times reported that Trump blamed Fox News host Sean Hannity and Republican megadonor and casino mogul Steve Wynn for Oz’s loss, also complaining that his wife, Melania Trump, offered poor advice.
The former president denied that report specifically in a subsequent Truth Social post.

Another Trump-endorsed candidate, Don Bolduc, lost a high-profile Senate race in New Hampshire. Trump-backed Senate nominees in Arizona and Nevada are in tight races with ballots still being counted.

Trump saw success in other races, including Ohio Republican Senate nominee J.D. Vance, who defeated Rep. Tim Ryan (D). Trump also endorsed the
In Georgia, the Trump-backed Herschel Walker (R) is headed to a Dec. 6 runoff against Sen. Raphael Warnock (D) after both came up just short of reaching a majority.

Republicans still appear favored to ultimately win a House majority, although the size of that potential majority would be well under what many pundits had expected leading up to Tuesday’s elections.

Senate control also remains up for grabs, with the majority set to be decided by Georgia’s runoff — assuming Democrats and Republicans split Arizona and Nevada. Either party could also garner a majority by winning both of those two states.

Finger pointing has already started within the GOP, with aides and strategists largely blaming Trump for the party’s failures.
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Trump says he’s ‘not at all angry’ about midterm results

Former President Trump on Thursday pushed back on reports that he is angry and spreading blame for Democrats’ better-than-expected midterm results. “For those many people that are being fed t…
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trumps an idiot. Does he actually think anyone believes anything he says? Even many of his diehard followers know he's full of shit but they like him anyway because he's a racist and and so are they.
 
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xtsho said:
trumps an idiot. Does he actually think anyone believes anything he says? Even many of his diehard followers know he's full of shit but they like him anyway because he's a racist and and so are they.
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No, they really are brainwashed. Sister's husband's family is in Texas and they think Trump is the second coming and that there is a battle between good and evil going on in the US right now.
 
Fogdog

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Somehow I do not remember my history texts remarking on the crux of it, your last sentence. It is troubling how well the appeal to emotion overcomes reams of fact.
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I'm not speaking from a position of knowledge on the subject. I am recalling what happened to Czar Nicholas who had always been an inept ruler and even remained in a strong position of power after years of failure in battle during WW1. He lost his grip on power when he took up a direct role of prosecuting the war, which took him away from the circles of government. Alexandra stepped into his role as ruler and lost support from both members of the ruling family and the peasants. He was an inept military leader too but losing the faith of the inner circle was ultimately how he was forced to abdicate. The pattern seems to have repeated throughout history going back to ancient Rome and Greece.

What's going on in the Republican Party can also be looked upon as a coup. Here's a reference I came upon after Trump's failed coup attempt

Instead of thinking about coups as battles (e.g., the side with the greatest military power will win) or coups as elections (e.g., the side with the most public support will win), Singh pushes us to think of coup success as being driven by coup-makers’ ability to get others to believe that their coup attempt will be successful.
How do coup-makers convince others their coup attempt will be successful? They convince military actors that the success of the coup has the support of almost everybody in the military and that any possible resistance is minor. One way coup makers have done this is by seizing the main radio broadcast facility.

Trump has always been seen as invulnerable to change in support from his base. "I could shoot somebody in ..." He convinced leaders in his party to stick with him even after he almost got them killed on Jan 6. So a coup is afoot and the coup plotters are using media to break his facade by casting him as a loser. The word loser is being repeated again and again about Trump in classic use of propaganda to reset the group think of the base of the Republican Party. Sheep that they are. DeSantis and winner is their new mantra.

Edit: Here is a link to the article I cited

 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
I'm not speaking from a position of knowledge on the subject. I am recalling what happened to Czar Nicholas who had always been an inept ruler and even remained in a strong position of power after years of failure in battle during WW1. He lost his grip on power when he took up a direct role of prosecuting the war, which took him away from the circles of government. Alexandra stepped into his role as ruler and lost support from both members of the ruling family and the peasants. He was an inept military leader too but losing the faith of the inner circle was ultimately how he was forced to abdicate. The pattern seems to have repeated throughout history going back to ancient Rome and Greece.

What's going on in the Republican Party can also be looked upon as a coup. Here's a reference I came upon after Trump's failed coup attempt

Instead of thinking about coups as battles (e.g., the side with the greatest military power will win) or coups as elections (e.g., the side with the most public support will win), Singh pushes us to think of coup success as being driven by coup-makers’ ability to get others to believe that their coup attempt will be successful.
How do coup-makers convince others their coup attempt will be successful? They convince military actors that the success of the coup has the support of almost everybody in the military and that any possible resistance is minor. One way coup makers have done this is by seizing the main radio broadcast facility.

Trump has always been seen as invulnerable to change in support from his base. "I could shoot somebody in ..." He convinced leaders in his party to stick with him even after he almost got them killed on Jan 6. So a coup is afoot and the coup plotters are using media to break his facade by casting him as a loser. The word loser is being repeated again and again about Trump in classic use of propaganda to reset the group think of the base of the Republican Party. Sheep that they are. DeSantis and winner is their new mantra.
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I see these things through a set of Germanic blinders. So when oldguysomebody reminisces about things being good under that man, I know how he would have voted over there in 1932. “I can afford bread again!”

Nine million death camp casualties later (2 out of 3 were Jews) …
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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cannabineer said:
I see these things through a set of Germanic blinders. So when oldguysomebody reminisces about things being good under that man, I know how he would have voted over there in 1932. “I can afford bread again!”

Nine million death camp casualties later (2 out of 3 were Jews) …
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what casts it into sharp relief is folks voting R due to an inflation that they engineered …
 
Offmymeds

Offmymeds

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FPOTUS could only hurt Walker IMO. FPOTUS is livid again and he is, of course, in actuality a big chickenshit. He could try to assert his dominance with rallies in GA thinking he could tip the balance and restore some of his reputation but I doubt he'd take that risk because he cannot take the shame\humiliation of another defeat. That is his kryptonite. He could start blaming Melania in advance if Walker loses and take credit if he wins though, the usual BS.

So greedy he didn't spend much of anything to help the GOP and they're pissed. I bet they also see him as a negative factor in the GA race. Will he release some $ to get Walker in? How would the media cover those rallies between FPOTUS's Q-nonsense and his word salads and Walker's manner of "speech"?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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cannabineer said:
I see these things through a set of Germanic blinders. So when oldguysomebody reminisces about things being good under that man, I know how he would have voted over there in 1932. “I can afford bread again!”

Nine million death camp casualties later (2 out of 3 were Jews) …
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Aren't leaders in the Republican Party making a move to remove that man from his top position? In 1934, Hitler eliminated other leaders of the Nazi Party so that could not happen. Night of the Long Knives.

The Republican Party could return to just being odious instead of dangerous, maybe?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
Aren't leaders in the Republican Party making a move to remove that man from his top position? In 1934, Hitler eliminated other leaders of the Nazi Party so that could not happen. Night of the Long Knives.

The Republican Party could return to just being odious instead of dangerous, maybe?
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As long as they are pursuing counterrepublican core strategies, they’re dangerous in my eyes.

I mentioned the Klan earlier. The racism is what people immediately think of, but the other part is that they’re also the spearpoint of the dominionists. I still flinch when I hear a Republican say family values; a lot of intolerance packed in there. The racism side of the coin shows in voter suppression and gerrymandering.

They’ll have to abandon the culture war, which is partly a dominionist thing but also an appeal to reactionary/rural mores. They have to visibly accept trans people as people. I use that as the current diagnostic.

They are a clear and present danger whenever they unfurl the “pro-business” flag with its associated ruinous fiscal policies, which include blocking spending for infrastructure as in Jackson MS. The fact that they have designated hitters floating the idea of killing Social Security by the death of a thousand nibbles frightens me.

So, until they expressly and in unison roll out the red carpet for centrists of every gender, creed and color — they are more than just odious. They are overthrow.

The other loyalty test they need to pass is to hold folks like Clarence Thomas and Aileen Cannon accountable for their assaults on the rule of law.

I could go on.
 
Offmymeds

Offmymeds

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What conditions do you think TFG would attach to PAC money ("his money") given to Walker's campaign? Keep in mind everything is a transaction plus he's angry and he's dealing with the GOP on this. Gotta be some real love going on between TFG and McConnell right now.
 
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