I thought this was America?

DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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lusidghost said:
This is capitulating with economical terrorists. These are the guys who you want to see make as many billions as possible?
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No... they should have kept the jobs here. The profit has a small percentage of my concern. They should have supported America. But, commodities and consumables are 2 different things. But Fords Q1,2 were good, but hey, they didn't get dinged for it. They were (and may be still ) getting sticker price... and Im ok with that.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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..... the EV F150 has been a flop. They (Ford) brought one down to my old workplace Dealership about 6 months ago.. I stopped in for an oil change, and asked my old co workers if they got any orders for one.... negative. They had it roped off, you couldn't sit in it, or test drive it, many online complaints... I highly doubt they will make another one past 2023 model.
 
CunningCanuk

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
Lets talk Big Oil. I find it strange that Biden would threaten to raise taxes on Big Oil Companies for making to much money, when in the beginning of his term, it was at the top of his list to shut down the Keystone, and lease lock domestic drilling when fuel was under $2 a gallon. Now that fuel is at record highs and only took a few cents dip in the past couple of weeks, (which he took credit for), it's back up again, and now he's back tracking saying we should do more domestic drilling?. And now he wants to take thier profits in higher taxes to do what?... "maybe" bring it down .20 cents or so? This isn't helping anybody. They earned it, they should keep it. I really think he has profit confused with revenue. You gotta spend money to make money. I don't have a problem paying $3.49 a gallon if it creates jobs. Im from a oil State. And when fuel is too cheap, and jobs aren't around, you can see it. When oil crashed (for a few opening hours briefly) to negative -$38.00 a brl, people around here were selling off all thier belongings, trading down in vehicles, homes, etc. because they didn't have jobs. Someone help me connect the dots.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-threatens-oil-companies-with-higher-taxes-on-profits-if-they-do-not-reduce-gasoline-prices/ar-AA13AXE6?cvid=f1a23f5aa75240e287e13c01916eb546
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Yeah, when is big business gonna catch a break?

BTW, haven’t you been one of the ones complaining about gas prices and how Biden hasn’t been doing anything about it?

Tough crowd.
 
Aeroknow

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doublejj said:
In California they washed entire mountains into the sea looking for gold. and deposited thousands of tons of mercury into San Francisco Bay, where it still sits today and will remain toxic for 10,000 years..
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I lived in a part of San Jose where that mercury was mined out the ground. Almaden.
They killed shitloads of people in the Almaden Valley while extracting that stuff from the ore.
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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rkymtnman said:
you should explain how keystone xl would help us. is it the oil being sold to china or the 35 full time jobs?
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Well, it would have created 20,000 jobs for US workers, boosted businesses for these workers that would have been staying at hotels, eating food from local restaurants, local manufacturers that produce PPE for those employees, paid land owners for land lease, etc. On the other end of it, even though it's not the cleanest crude sand tar oil, it would supply the world with more raw crude to be shipped and refined, creating even more jobs abroad, which there are Americans working abroad in these refineries. It wouldn't help Americans and the pump per se, but it would have boosted the economy.
In the end, if we needed it, it's there, and we would have put a lot of money in American pockets. If we didn't need it, the environmental impact would have been minimal, and temporary. These pipes are buried deep. After a while, you wouldn't even know they were there.
IF this would have happened, there would be more supply on the world market, and OPEC wouldn't quite have the leverage they have now.
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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CunningCanuk said:
Yeah, when is big business gonna catch a break?

BTW, haven’t you been one of the ones complaining about gas prices and how Biden hasn’t been doing anything about it?

Tough crowd.
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I know right?!?!.... who doesn't bitch about gas prices. We'd all bitch if it went from .99 to 1.99. it's all perception.
Tough Crowd..... is that in you signature, or do you just say that to everyone you dislike?
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
Well, it would have created 20,000 jobs for US workers, boosted businesses for these workers that would have been staying at hotels, eating food from local restaurants, local manufacturers that produce PPE for those employees, paid land owners for land lease, etc. On the other end of it, even thought it's not the cleanest crude sand tar oil, it would supply the world with more raw crude to be shipped and refined, creating even more jobs abroad, which there are Americans working abroad in these refineries. It wouldn't help Americans and the pump per se, but it would have boosted the economy.
In the end, if we needed it, it's there, and we would have put a lot of money in American pockets. If we didn't need it, the environmental impact would have been minimal, and temporary. These pipes are buried deep. After a while, you wouldn't even know they were there.
IF this would have happened, there would be more supply on the world market, and OPEC wouldn't quite have the leverage they have now.
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/keystone-pipeline-us-steel-trump

and the US would be refining that sludge because Canada was smart enough to say we don't want to pump that shit across our lands, let's let the republicans ruin the Oglalla aquifer in their breadbasket. the oil was going to be sold to china at a discount so it really didn't increase world supply either.
 
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