How long to cure for the best quality? 3 months?

GrodanLightfoot

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herbs like oregano only lose flavor the longer they sit. Same thing happens with cannabis.
Brother, if your herb is anything like oregano, or Cavendish cured tobacco, just accept that OP, who appears to be a novice grower, grows far superior herb to yours and exit the conversation.

OP, my herb maxes out, meaning strongest smelling, at month 5-6. Oxygen is my friend until that point. Regular burping. Fresh weed, I put 1/10th gram in a vape, can't taste anything but hash type flavor. Cured 5 months, I put 1/10th gram in the vape, the neighbors start peaking over the fence before I even get to taste the sour goodness. If your weed does not get more tart and pungent.. You have shitty mentors.

The best grower I know, his herb is the smelliest, strongest tasting, strongest effect at month 8-10. A single year old nug in an empty house smells just like the grow room if not stronger. You're simply doing it wrong if your bud doesn't have shelf life, doesn't cure, and becomes trash after a month. The concept of fresh weed is some zoomer alt reality nonsense to me and anyone over 40. Weed is not a fruit. It's not a menthol leaf. It's a complex oil. Oil rancidity is essentially a good thing with Cannabis as it's key aromas are aliphatic conjugates.

To the guys saying terpenes disappear, no one cares about pinene linalool myrcene and all that vape pen shit! Literally no one! Or we'd all stop growing and buy cheap vape pens with added terps!

Cannabis labs are for marketing, they have zero relation to quality. Vape pens with added 'nenes are useless to almost all consumers. If you want to be a basic terp tard white knighting for basic bitch terps, at least look past the vape pen poster. This is BASIC day one organic chemistry :

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Now tell me your favorite basic terp is 1-methyl-4-prop-1-en-2-yl cyclohexane (limonene) because you like citrus.. You're being prejudice against unsung hydrocarbons. Just like distillate simps claiming 90%thc is stronger than 15%.. It's admitting to delusion.

Even sticking with the limonene hydrocarbon, I promise you, 4-methyl-β-methylenecyclohex-3-ene-1-ethyl acetate is far stronger in smell, taste and effect. It's MUCH louder. And acetylated cannabinoids are MUCH stronger:

Since reality doesn't matter, do I need to post detection thresholds for every superior metabolite? Will anyone bother looking up flavor activity for all the vapepenanenes that the anticure guys whiteknight for, since lab reports are the only thing that will convince them that properly grown, properly cured bud is vastly louder, vastly stronger tasting, and vastly more potent than fresh?

I know you guys are just waiting for Future Cannabis Clowns or the Shit Eagle to drop a podcast telling you what to think so you can change your tune, but it's not going to happen. Those youtube personas are bigger dumbasses growing worse mids than anyone. Skittlez doesn't smell like urinal cake, OG Kush doesn't smell like peanuts. Gorilla Glue doesn't smell Elmer's glue, Chem Dawg does not smell like counterfeit Air Jordans, etc etc etc like those clowns have claimed. Even then, none of those off smells are vape pen additives? This scene is so confusing. Not a one of you can tell me what terpinolene smells like yet everyone has an opinion on whether they like it or not..?


And yes I'm entitled to talk shit. This isn't the line at the grocery store, this is a specialized grow forum, full of experts with no skill. I came here to talk about top fuel funny cars and all I get is Hondas with fart mufflers.
 

Cynister

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Cure?? Leaving your weed in a jar for 3 mo’s is what the kids call curing I guess.
Curing involves moisture, heat and elimination of O2 to get the plant to use nitrogen in place of oxygen.
After being Jared for months the weed looses terpins, flavor and character. If you like it dulled down no biggie, but thats no cure.
Here’s what cured weed looks like.
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Yes! Now we're talking.
 

singlecoiled

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Brother, if your herb is anything like oregano, or Cavendish cured tobacco, just accept that OP, who appears to be a novice grower, grows far superior herb to yours and exit the conversation.

OP, my herb maxes out, meaning strongest smelling, at month 5-6. Oxygen is my friend until that point. Regular burping. Fresh weed, I put 1/10th gram in a vape, can't taste anything but hash type flavor. Cured 5 months, I put 1/10th gram in the vape, the neighbors start peaking over the fence before I even get to taste the sour goodness. If your weed does not get more tart and pungent.. You have shitty mentors.

The best grower I know, his herb is the smelliest, strongest tasting, strongest effect at month 8-10. A single year old nug in an empty house smells just like the grow room if not stronger. You're simply doing it wrong if your bud doesn't have shelf life, doesn't cure, and becomes trash after a month. The concept of fresh weed is some zoomer alt reality nonsense to me and anyone over 40. Weed is not a fruit. It's not a menthol leaf. It's a complex oil. Oil rancidity is essentially a good thing with Cannabis as it's key aromas are aliphatic conjugates.

To the guys saying terpenes disappear, no one cares about pinene linalool myrcene and all that vape pen shit! Literally no one! Or we'd all stop growing and buy cheap vape pens with added terps!

Cannabis labs are for marketing, they have zero relation to quality. Vape pens with added 'nenes are useless to almost all consumers. If you want to be a basic terp tard white knighting for basic bitch terps, at least look past the vape pen poster. This is BASIC day one organic chemistry :

View attachment 5210426

Now tell me your favorite basic terp is 1-methyl-4-prop-1-en-2-yl cyclohexane (limonene) because you like citrus.. You're being prejudice against unsung hydrocarbons. Just like distillate simps claiming 90%thc is stronger than 15%.. It's admitting to delusion.

Even sticking with the limonene hydrocarbon, I promise you, 4-methyl-β-methylenecyclohex-3-ene-1-ethyl acetate is far stronger in smell, taste and effect. It's MUCH louder. And acetylated cannabinoids are MUCH stronger:

Since reality doesn't matter, do I need to post detection thresholds for every superior metabolite? Will anyone bother looking up flavor activity for all the vapepenanenes that the anticure guys whiteknight for, since lab reports are the only thing that will convince them that properly grown, properly cured bud is vastly louder, vastly stronger tasting, and vastly more potent than fresh?

I know you guys are just waiting for Future Cannabis Clowns or the Shit Eagle to drop a podcast telling you what to think so you can change your tune, but it's not going to happen. Those youtube personas are bigger dumbasses growing worse mids than anyone. Skittlez doesn't smell like urinal cake, OG Kush doesn't smell like peanuts. Gorilla Glue doesn't smell Elmer's glue, Chem Dawg does not smell like counterfeit Air Jordans, etc etc etc like those clowns have claimed. Even then, none of those off smells are vape pen additives? This scene is so confusing. Not a one of you can tell me what terpinolene smells like yet everyone has an opinion on whether they like it or not..?


And yes I'm entitled to talk shit. This isn't the line at the grocery store, this is a specialized grow forum, full of experts with no skill. I came here to talk about top fuel funny cars and all I get is Hondas with fart mufflers.
Good stuff, thanks for the well written and thoughtful reply!
 

Horselover fat

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I did have one strain however that I really wasn't happy with after the dry, and generally thought it was garbage, so I just put it aside in a paper bag for a few months and kind of forgot about it. Then I found the bag one day, and decided to smoke it for funzies, and it was much better than it was 3-months prior. I think that's an outlier though. I prefer the fresher tastes myself. In fact I've frozen ounces in the past, just to retain that freshness for later.

I've had that happen too. One of my SSH's was not enjoyable. It got forgotten for half a year and it was quite good. Maybe it was me, maybe it was god. I dunno.

Jarring slightly moist buds developes the flavours though. Maybe not for better in all strains, but for some it sure does. As for the potency degrading... Maybe, maybe not. I just vaped a 50g jar of a year and a half old bud and I couldn't tell you if it was less potent than when I cut it. It got me high and it was great is all I know.
 

ANC

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Bro, if only I knew how to make weed last 3 months...I'd have to start growing pounds.
Good weed for me is at its best the moment it is dried. I have a weak sense of smell, and the few terps I can register evaporates off in no time with the weed just getting blander and blander...
 

singlecoiled

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Bro, if only I knew how to make weed last 3 months...I'd have to start growing pounds.
Good weed for me is at its best the moment it is dried. I have a weak sense of smell, and the few terps I can register evaporates off in no time with the weed just getting blander and blander...
I went through the expensive dispensary weed here in Wash DC, and it didn't last long. But my personally grown stash is kicking my ass, maybe I got lucky in my cure? I smoke very little weed now, maybe 1/2 to 3/4 a bowl and stay high for hours.

At the moment, I'm growing "Lower Odor" types of strains. Both Durban Poison and Northern Lights have a sweet honey pine and lemon smell which is not overpowering during flower and drying. BUT after a few weeks/months in glass the odor really kicks in. When I open a mason jar now, my whole room smells. So, in my case, it's a little opposite. The strong (good) odors, happen in the jar after drying. Note: after around 3 months, the odor mellows out, but this is not a bad thing, it smooths out and is like smoking a big fluffy pillow. (yeah, I'm smoking Durban Poison now, thats my excuse for describing weed tastes like a fluffy pillow--it makes complete sense to me now, but I'm high.

Who knows, maybe there is no perfect cure time. It's fun to try weed at all the stages of cure, each being a treat in its own way...
 

singlecoiled

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My Newbie Cure Technique:

I tend to aim for mid winter to flower reducing the risk of mold in my basement grow. My RH can be from 35-55 during this time, which means I use two different dry techniques---. If the RH is in the 50's I hang my buds after a half ass trim removing fan leaves and some sugar leaves. Drying takes around 6-7 days depending on RH and I wait for the stems to snap, but not completely (just a bit green still). If RH is 40 or lower, I keep the leaves on and dry in paper bags. (around 6-7 days as well)... I also jar the smaller buds first, and give the massive colas an extra day of two depending. Air flow is slight using my AC afinity fan on low, just to keep air moving.

After that I have large gallon glass containers I fill to 3/4 and burp twice daily. I keep Hydrometers in the jars and like a higher RH at this point allowing things to "stew" for a week or two. ( Around 60-65 RH for pre cure). Odor becomes very strong after this step) I also gently rotate the jar, or store them alternating up, down and side ways so the buds dont stick or have wet spots...

After this, I go to a smaller classic wide Mouth Ball Mason Jar, and usually seperate my best quality tops from my popcorn and lower tops. I burp daily for a while, but after a month or so, I burp maybe twice a week. (Sneaking a bud counts as a burp at this point)

Thats about it. Most of my buds go into glass at around 56RH after drying, slowly creep up to around 58-60RH for long cure.

Man, I really wish I could invite some of you all over to sample... Too bad we dont have Scratch and Sniff yet on the internet !
 
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singlecoiled

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Real DP stinks up the valley and I've seen it get people so high they started speaking in tongues.
So does Northern Lights! I hear you, but for me the odor is manageable with a carbon filter. Both smell sweet and piney to me while flowering. After a few weeks in glass though, I can't hide the smell---

Here is ILGM recommended lower odor strains... Most seedbanks call DP low odor.

10 Best Low Odor Strains for Stealth and Discreet Grows (ilgm.com)
 

matty-berk

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And sometimes wine turns to vinegar. Kinda set yourself up for that one lol
I have weed that cured for over six months and was amazing!!! But now that same jar smells like shit and all the buds started to turn brown. I think there is a sweet spot for curing. My first grow I grew over four pounds and I could t smoke it fast enough before it ended up going bad
 

ANC

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I know DP from the 90s, the rasta we got our weed from always carried some for special smoke, whatever friends I took with got destroyed by the potency and the hotbox effect of 12 men smoking in a shanty
 

singlecoiled

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I know DP from the 90s, the rasta we got our weed from always carried some for special smoke, whatever friends I took with got destroyed by the potency and the hotbox effect of 12 men smoking in a shanty
Durban Poison is an interesting strain for sure, I'm two months into cure and it's really fragrant and potent. I had a Bug exterminator at my house that I gave a little sample to. He called me back to tell me it's some of the best weed he's tasted in a while and that I'm sitting on a gold mine. (he's a fellow grower that wants grow tips from me now!) This was a huge compliment to me as a new grower.
 
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