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DIY-HP-LED

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Hertling predicts 'disastrous' results after Putin's move
144,320 views Sep 22, 2022 Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling says Putin's move to call up 300,000 reservists as part of a partial mobilization will not end well for Russia's military.
 

CCGNZ

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Hertling predicts 'disastrous' results after Putin's move
144,320 views Sep 22, 2022 Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling says Putin's move to call up 300,000 reservists as part of a partial mobilization will not end well for Russia's military.
Hey,LED,how have you been,been gone for months myself,absolute insanity at work,1st boss passed away at 47 right before season tragically from a minor operation,2nd boss a total clusterfuck,3rd boss now in place 31 yrs. old,I could be his father for christ sakes,bumps in the road include a total upside down process than we ran for 20 yrs. also fking up payroll,this whole season has been a blur. I'm sitting at laundry as I called in sick to shelter my crop from rain (big botrytis threat),took me 2 hrs. of work sheltering these bitches,now that I'm done with the pre subject rant,I see Putin's move as complete desperation,these guys won't be a factor for at least 6months,if at all. I just hope his blunder(invading Ukraine) can come to some resolution without a desperate Putin really getting crazy. Excluding him being ousted(Russia could lay all blame on Putin's war on him and begin reparations to take the long steps required to heal the ingrained hate Russia has cultivated for itself with this disaster), I'm at a loss for resolution in which Putin is still in power while Zelinsky and the Ukraine army want all territory pre 2014 back in Ukrainian hands,can't see that happening.Hope EU doesn't sell out this winter and force a deal that rewards Russia with any territory for their aggression but unfortunately something along these lines seems most likely. The whole thing remains very perilous as a desperate despot seeks to save face for a incalculable blunder.
 

printer

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Doctor Bagavieva listed the diseases that give a respite from mobilization.
A person can receive a deferment from military service on the basis of his illnesses. The list of such diseases was announced by the candidate of medical sciences Svetlana Bagavieva.

“Delay is given in the presence of infectious diseases - intestinal infections or chronic ones, HIV, hepatitis. The reason for the delay will also be neoplasms - both benign and malignant, ”Bagavieva told Channel Five .
Also, the list of diseases with which they will not be hired includes:

  • blood diseases - hemophilia (blood clotting), leukemia;
  • ischemic disease and congenital heart disease;
  • stroke;
  • haemorrhoids;
  • psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia:
  • neurological diseases - epilepsy;
  • disorders and pathologies of the central nervous system and respiratory organs.
The service is contraindicated in case of bronchial asthma, pneumonia, tuberculosis, exacerbation of chronic gastritis, disorders of the dentoalveolar and urinary system, kidney failure, spinal pathology, flat feet and scoliosis, hearing diseases (otitis media, eardrum pathology). The list also includes glaucoma, astigmatism, and blindness.

Since September 21, partial mobilization has been announced in Russia. According to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, 300,000 reservists will be called up.

Earlier, Senator of the Federation Council from Crimea Olga Kovitidi said that it is necessary to update the criteria for fitness for military service, excluding a number of diseases from them as grounds for deferment from conscription. Such diseases, in her opinion, can be flat feet and scoliosis of certain degrees, Nation News reports .

What? No bone spurs?
Ten out of ten visitors to the Tyumen military enlistment office are volunteers
On the second day of partial mobilization, volunteers flooded into the Tyumen regional military registration and enlistment office. They are actively preparing for the passage of medical commissions and count on the positive conclusions of doctors. The correspondent of URA.RU talked with a dozen who wish to join the ranks of the Russian army. For security reasons, the names of these people have been changed.

No need to print the propaganda. The ten out of ten means that the bright people are staying far, far away.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Doctor Bagavieva listed the diseases that give a respite from mobilization.
A person can receive a deferment from military service on the basis of his illnesses. The list of such diseases was announced by the candidate of medical sciences Svetlana Bagavieva.

“Delay is given in the presence of infectious diseases - intestinal infections or chronic ones, HIV, hepatitis. The reason for the delay will also be neoplasms - both benign and malignant, ”Bagavieva told Channel Five .
Also, the list of diseases with which they will not be hired includes:

  • blood diseases - hemophilia (blood clotting), leukemia;
  • ischemic disease and congenital heart disease;
  • stroke;
  • haemorrhoids;
  • psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia:
  • neurological diseases - epilepsy;
  • disorders and pathologies of the central nervous system and respiratory organs.
The service is contraindicated in case of bronchial asthma, pneumonia, tuberculosis, exacerbation of chronic gastritis, disorders of the dentoalveolar and urinary system, kidney failure, spinal pathology, flat feet and scoliosis, hearing diseases (otitis media, eardrum pathology). The list also includes glaucoma, astigmatism, and blindness.

Since September 21, partial mobilization has been announced in Russia. According to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, 300,000 reservists will be called up.

Earlier, Senator of the Federation Council from Crimea Olga Kovitidi said that it is necessary to update the criteria for fitness for military service, excluding a number of diseases from them as grounds for deferment from conscription. Such diseases, in her opinion, can be flat feet and scoliosis of certain degrees, Nation News reports .

What? No bone spurs?
The standout in the list is hemorrhoids.

I predict that, for recruiters, this will be a pain in the ass.
 

xtsho

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pootin is in a real jam. He's getting his ass kicked in Ukraine and now he's got a fight at home. I think many Russians are saying enough is enough. They went along with all the corruption for years, the lack of Democracy, the silencing of the press, etc... They're drawing the line when it comes to dying for that piece of garbage. The protests are going to get worse. What do they have to lose at this point? As bad as their prisons are it's better to go there and live than go to Ukraine and die.

It's just a matter of time. Russia is in the early stages of total collapse and it's all pootins doing.
 

printer

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‘We Just Started Crying’: Call-Up Gains Steam as Russians Receive Draft Papers
Thousands of men across Russia were handed draft papers and NGOs helping conscripts were flooded with requests for help Thursday amid the military mobilization launched by President Vladimir Putin to provide extra manpower for the Ukraine war.

One Muscovite who was detained with her husband at an anti-mobilization demonstration told The Moscow Times that male protesters were given draft papers at the police station.

“There was a military recruiting officer who gave the detained men draft notifications,” she told The Moscow Times.

“When the first person was asked to go to a separate room, we did not understand what was going on — but when he returned with a draft slip, we just started crying.”

While Putin said Russia would only implement a “partial” mobilization targeting reservists with military experience in his televised announcement of the measure Wednesday, evidence from across the country as conscription got underway suggested some men were being drafted despite having spent no time in the Armed Forces.

Long lines of cars were reported at Russia’s borders with neighboring states, including Finland, Georgia and Mongolia, as men apparently tried to flee the country, while prices for flights to countries accepting Russian travelers skyrocketed.

One father of five children with no military experience was contacted by the authorities in the Siberian city of Ulan-Ude on Thursday, his wife Yanina Nimaeva told The Moscow Times.

“The local authorities called my husband yesterday and asked him about his whereabouts. We were shocked and just switched off our phones,” she said.


“On Thursday morning they visited our apartments where we are registered to check if he was there,” she added. “We are trying to get in touch with human rights activists.”

According to Russian law, draft papers must be handed to the recipient in person, who is then required to sign to confirm they have been received.

An unidentified man mobilized in the city of Chita near the Chinese border told state news agency RIA Novosti on Thursday that he was handed his draft summons at home.

“They told me to turn up [to the enlistment center] at about 10:00 with warm clothes,” he said.

Dozens of videos appeared online apparently showing groups of men gathering near military enlistment offices, or boarding coaches and planes, in cities across Russia.

More than 10,000 reservists were conscripted in the first twenty-four hours of mobilization, rear admiral Vladimir Tsimlyansky told journalists late Thursday.

Additional recruitment offices reportedly opened their doors across Russia, from St. Petersburg to Russia’s Far East.

Amid growing fears that almost any man aged between 18 and 60 could be at risk of mobilization, human rights groups offering help to soldiers, or potential conscripts, were overwhelmed by inquiries.

“The panic is huge,” said Sergei Krivenko, the head of the Citizen. Army. Law. group that provides legal assistance to Russian soldiers.

“Previously, we had around 50 requests a day, but over the past two days we have received 14,000,” he told The Moscow Times.

Alexandra Garmazhapova, the co-founder of the Free Buryatia Foundation, an anti-war organization supporting conscientious objectors from the Siberian republic of Buryatia, said that up to 5,000 men had likely already been mobilized there.

“This is not a limited mobilization; the situation in Buryatia is very much a full mobilization,” she told The Moscow Times, recounting an incident in which one man was woken at 4 a.m. by military officials.

“The number of requests [for help] didn’t just grow, it slammed us. Before there were…two or three messages every day… but now, in two days, each member of our team received thousands of messages,” she said.

Back in Moscow, protest monitoring group OVD-Info said that anti-war protesters were served with draft papers inside at least 15 police stations following Wednesday’s demonstrations against mobilization.

“There have been cases of psychological pressure,” said Eva Levenber, who works on legal issues for OVD-Info. “Oftentimes, the draft papers were issued by people in plain clothes without any identification marks,” she told The Moscow Times.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters Thursday that the practice of issuing draft orders inside police stations was “not against the law.”
Russian journalist Artyom Krieger, who was detained while covering the protests in Moscow, said he received draft papers stating he must attend a recruitment office.

“There were around a dozen men at the police station who also received these documents,” he told The Moscow Times from inside of a police van ahead of a court hearing Thursday.
“I’m a student and I have a military exemption. I just hope everything will be fine.”
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/22/we-just-started-crying-call-up-gains-steam-as-russians-receive-draft-papers-a78862
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Hey,LED,how have you been,been gone for months myself,absolute insanity at work,1st boss passed away at 47 right before season tragically from a minor operation,2nd boss a total clusterfuck,3rd boss now in place 31 yrs. old,I could be his father for christ sakes,bumps in the road include a total upside down process than we ran for 20 yrs. also fking up payroll,this whole season has been a blur. I'm sitting at laundry as I called in sick to shelter my crop from rain (big botrytis threat),took me 2 hrs. of work sheltering these bitches,now that I'm done with the pre subject rant,I see Putin's move as complete desperation,these guys won't be a factor for at least 6months,if at all. I just hope his blunder(invading Ukraine) can come to some resolution without a desperate Putin really getting crazy. Excluding him being ousted(Russia could lay all blame on Putin's war on him and begin reparations to take the long steps required to heal the ingrained hate Russia has cultivated for itself with this disaster), I'm at a loss for resolution in which Putin is still in power while Zelinsky and the Ukraine army want all territory pre 2014 back in Ukrainian hands,can't see that happening.Hope EU doesn't sell out this winter and force a deal that rewards Russia with any territory for their aggression but unfortunately something along these lines seems most likely. The whole thing remains very perilous as a desperate despot seeks to save face for a incalculable blunder.
yeah, it would appear he's either planning to renew hostilities as soon as he can get these new jokers "trained"...or he's not going to bother with training at all, just gear them up with old worn out shit, give them some spoiled field rations, and turn them loose at the border...probably with a machine gun or two trained on them to make sure they go the right way
 

xtsho

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pootin can draft and force all the men he wants to go fight. But it's like leading lambs to slaughter. There is no way in hell they're prepared to go up against well trained and battle hardened Ukrainian soldiers that are pissed off and hate Russians. It's like sending a 10 lb Chihuahua into a dogfight with a 50 lb Pitbull. They'll get ripped to shreds. I wonder what the casualty rate is going to be. 50-75% killed with the rest fleeing in terror as soon as the bullets and artillery shells start flying? Russia doesn't even have equipment.

Someone in Russia needs to stop this madness now. It's hard to believe that the Kremlin is so ignorant that they would continue with this failed endeavour. Maybe they're trying to reduce the population. It just doesn't make any sense.

Failed nations are failures for a reason though. Their blind loyalty to one man is what caused this. And just a week ago many of those being drafted were 100% behind this so called special action. Now that they're the ones being called up to fight they're pissing their panties. Screw them. Let them be target practice for the Ukrainians. I don't have much sympathy.


The welcoming party is waiting for them. They are planning a celebration complete with fireworks.

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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
i thought that was your reply to the geritol question.... :-?
It was about nukes. That Man would not have nuked his role model, but he seriously wanted to thermonuke a cyclone. Talk about hot rain.

A consistent feature of That Man’s foreign policy was appeasement of foreign opponents, the more autocratic the “better”. Vladolf would already be in charge of Ukraine, had That Man stolen the office. At that point, nuclear blackmail would have been more directly applied to Nato, and (I imagine) to the errant sheep who left the Soviet Union, from the Baltics to the trans-Caucasus.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It was about nukes. That Man would not have nuked his role model, but he seriously wanted to thermonuke a cyclone. Talk about hot rain.

A consistent feature of That Man’s foreign policy was appeasement of foreign opponents, the more autocratic the “better”. Vladolf would already be in charge of Ukraine, had That Man stolen the office. At that point, nuclear blackmail would have been more directly applied to Nato, and (I imagine) to the errant sheep who left the Soviet Union, from the Baltics to the trans-Caucasus.
i'm sure NATO would have helped them, but without the aid we provided, and the pressure we provided, Ukraine would have been royally fucked, the russians would have steam rollered them with out of date shit and untrained men...as has been pointed out, enough of each can simply overpower an unprepared opponent.
 

xtsho

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Lavrov speech at the UN today..........

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Why the hell is Russia even in the UN anymore? They should be expelled. Lavrov should be detained by immigration and deported back to Russia. Screw the diplomatic nonsense. Kick him out of the country along with any other Russian diplomats. Why is that garbage allowed on US soil?

The fact that Russia has veto power is ridiculous.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Why the hell is Russia even in the UN anymore? They should be expelled. Lavrov should be detained by immigration and deported back to Russia. Screw the diplomatic nonsense. Kick him out of the country along with any other Russian diplomats. Why is that garbage allowed on US soil?

The fact that Russia has veto power is ridiculous.
when you consider that North Korea, Haiti, Yemen and South Sudan are UN members, expulsion would be excessive. They should be taken off the Security Council, unless I’m missing something major.
 
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