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JohnBlaze204

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mikeyboy2121 said:
One of the biggest for me, along with contaminated water remaining infectious for up to 7 weeks in studies.
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in studies not dealing with HLVD though. Seems to me when it comes to the research Tumi is behind in the game. I thought they were based out of Colorado. Not sure why they are working with Texas A&M for research when they probably would have more freedom with the plant in a blue state like Darkheart has had.
 
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JohnBlaze204

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idlewilder said:
Also the root zone is a major spreading center, hence the possibility of infected runoff. No-till growers need to be extra vigilant.
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They didn't really say it spreads from runoff and infects. They said it can possibly spread from runoff. No study done to show it causing infection. They did mention that the root zone "tissue" was good test material but that is only because it absorbs what is in the plant itself. It does not say that the virus can be spread through water uptake though.
 
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mikeyboy2121

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JohnBlaze204 said:
in studies not dealing with HLVD though. Seems to me when it comes to the research Tumi is behind in the game. I thought they were based out of Colorado. Not sure why they are working with Texas A&M for research when they probably would have more freedom with the plant in a blue state like Darkheart has had.
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"None of these experiments were done with Hops Latent Viroid. All the viroids have a very similar structure and metabolism in the cell, so we're extrapolating information from other viroids because a lot of research has been done in other plants." - Dr. Tumi

The PhD molecular biologist seems to think the experiments on other viroids are relevant. You disagree?
 
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MannyPacs

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mikeyboy2121 said:
"None of these experiments were done with Hops Latent Viroid. All the viroids have a very similar structure and metabolism in the cell, so we're extrapolating information from other viroids because a lot of research has been done in other plants." - Dr. Tumi

The PhD molecular biologist seems to think the experiments on other viroids are relevant. You disagree?
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PhD molecular biologists have theories and hypothesis get blown up every day though. "extrapolating information from other viroids because a lot of research has been done on other plants." Puts it clearly in the theory and hypothesis stage. Now it's time to replicate the research and test the hypothesis with the virus in question.
 
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ganjaman87 said:
Was that you that sent him a message in the discord? I inquired about mine and now I’m “timed out” for 7 days I can’t post in the discord and he deleted the messages about the orders
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No not me. They were super responsive when they took my money. I sent a pleasant worded e-mail last Thursday and since then, complete silence. Its pretty frustrating. That day how many orders did they process like 50 or so. It should not have been that difficult.
 
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mikeyboy2121

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MannyPacs said:
PhD molecular biologists have theories and hypothesis get blown up every day though. "extrapolating information from other viroids because a lot of research has been done on other plants." Puts it clearly in the theory and hypothesis stage. Now it's time to replicate the research and test the hypothesis with the virus in question.
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Great idea. You know someone to fund it?

In the meantime I'm going to assume that this viroid works just like other viroids, because it probably does.
 
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MannyPacs

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mikeyboy2121 said:
Great idea. You know someone to fund it?

In the meantime I'm going to assume that this viroid works just like other viroids, because it probably does.
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If one viroids has been shown to be transmitted by a mite or aphids would you assume that all viroids can be passed that way?

That sounds way more pointed of a question than it is lol I'm really just trying to see where people are on things. I remember when aids was first coming around. People thought you could get it from toilet seats. I understand virus ≠ viroid but when something is new and we aren't exactly sure how it behaves we sometimes fill in the blanks
 
mudballs

mudballs

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We are very sure on how viroids work, are transmitted, and much more. Do you know how a viroid enters a cell?
 
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MannyPacs

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mudballs said:
We are very sure on how viroids work, are transmitted, and much more. Do you know how a viroid enters a cell?
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Do you know that some viroids are much easier transmitted than others? Our understanding of viroids is still in it's infancy. I never claim to be an expert. A person who is "very sure" of much about viroids is a fool.

Since you and "we" know so much you should be able to answer these questions we were kicking around
 
mudballs

mudballs

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MannyPacs said:
Do you know that some viroids are much easier transmitted than others? Our understanding of viroids is still in it's infancy. I never claim to be an expert. A person who is "very sure" of much about viroids is a fool.

Since you and "we" know so much you should be able to answer these questions we were kicking around
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I can, oswizzle just did...others already have...it's just another pathogen a gardener needs to contend with. Any further inflation of this circus is not really necessary or helpful. Sure it has it's nuances but it's not some magical unstoppable sudden death syndrome....lol...it's just another pathogen you should already know how to deal with.
 
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