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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
But yet the meme was factual.
No.
You really should get out more. You sound like a very bored and scorned nitpicking, conservative, hateful old woman. It's just a Youtube clip. If you don't want to watch it then why quote my YouTube comment?
Because that is irrelevant to the point, your attempted goalpost move notwithstanding.
Tell us again what you have a PHD in and a degree in Professor?
If you do not recall my answer, that is not my concern.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
You said examples, which suggests links to something from a good third-party source that advances your argument.

The only links I remember from you are vids from odd niche producers.

Your own opinions are not examples; they are opinions.
That's right no vid.
Thanks for clarifying what we all already knew.

So tell me Professor. What government hasn't taken away rights?
As government predates writing, that cannot be answered.

Also, “Professor” confers overmuch honor upon a college instructor.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
So none? So I'm correct then and you are arguing yet again for no reason.

Or its sarcasm, you take your pick.
I question your motives. You insist on my disclosing something to which you have not earned title.

“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
 

Lucky Luke

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I question your motives. You insist on my disclosing something to which you have not earned title.

“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
O i know your motives. Your an extremely bored, very unhappy person who likes to pick arguments on the internet over minor and often trivial things. Such as a Meme. Your conservative but likes to say they are Left, But your not left at all.
 

Dorian2

Well-Known Member
The bolded makes no sense.
Second Thought is self-described as radical. Depending on which of the temarkably few online commentaries one sees, it is either full socialist, advocating the Marxian idea of collectivizing the means etc., or a Chinese propaganda organ. So from that perspective, any undeluded political party in states where people vote is well to the right.

Unless you can lay out rationally that the US Democratic Party is right of center, I reject your claim. Please do not descend into anarcho-moo plop like your glib “they both take away rights”. That chestnut was neither articulated nor quantified, and descends into arguing from sentiment.
Like.


Just for the prose.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
Once again, I am moving this away from a troll thread.

[QUOTE ="Lucky Luke, post: 17084456, member: 929603"]
Was no vid in my examples. I said:

"Its just how it is. Any government takes away rights. Remember the draft? They just tell you that your going to fight in a war. Is that a removal of rights? You know how you have to get a driving licence for anything? Why is that? Money?? Turns a right into a privilege. Don't get me started on parking fees...Haven't even the right to leave my property on roads that i pay for for a limited amount of time without paying for the right to park it even though i pay to register and insure it to use the roads that as previously said- i pay for.
If you think governments of all persuasions are not all about restricting and removing rights from the citizens then you need to pay more attention.
You haven't even the right to leave your own country and return without asking for permission. And pay for the privilege to apply.

Did you know that you have to actually pay to renounce your citizenship? Even your citizenship is not free for you to do as you like with. "
You said examples, which suggests links to something from a good third-party source that advances your argument.

The only links I remember from you are vids from odd niche producers.

Your own opinions are not examples; they are opinions.
[/QUOTE]
i missed this post, like i miss most of his posts...
but one thing in particular that he said is fucking bullshit, and should be named such...
driving is NOT a right, it is a PRIVILEGE...and it comes with the responsibility to know AND follow the rules of the road.
and parking fees? the government doesn't build free parking garages, they never have, no idea why you would think they should start doing so now...they provide the roads you abuse every day, the businesses or homes or schools you're using those publicly funded roads to get to, are responsible for their own parking situations.
they also provide firemen, police protection, street lights, working sewers and water supplies...public parks, schools, traffic signals, street signs...but since you obviously have never used any of those things, why should you have to pay your fair share to live in the protected, pampered society you incessantly complain about?
 

Lucky Luke

Well-Known Member
but one thing in particular that he said is fucking bullshit, and should be named such...
driving is NOT a right, it is a PRIVILEGE...and it comes with the responsibility to know AND follow the rules of the road.
and parking fees? the government doesn't build free parking garages, they never have, no idea why you would think they should start doing so now...they provide the roads you abuse every day, the businesses or homes or schools you're using those publicly funded roads to get to, are responsible for their own parking situations.
Driving has become a privilege but was once a right. Back before registration and licensing. So you are agreeing with me and not knowing it. A right was turned into a privilege and a money maker.

IDK about America but i've been to a couple of handful of countries where parking spaces are along the road. The old ones had meters you fed coins into and the new ones accept cash and the newer ones use an app. From watching American TV Americans also have this. Usually if you park further away from where you would like to park you can still park for free.

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Council does indeed provide "Free" motorcycle parking which is nice. Its Free to park a motorcycle that i pay a registration and insurance for to use the roads that i pay for. So is it really free even if its called free?

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Would you like to start on the Right to leave and return to your own country without first applying and paying for the privilege?
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Driving has become a privilege but was once a right. Back before registration and licensing. So you are agreeing with me and not knowing it. A right was turned into a privilege and a money maker.

IDK about America but i've been to a couple of handful of countries where parking spaces are along the road. The old ones had meters you fed coins into and the new ones accept cash and the newer ones use an app. From watching American TV Americans also have this. Usually if you park further away from where you would like to park you can still park for free.

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Council does indeed provide "Free" motorcycle parking which is nice. Its Free to park a motorcycle that i pay a registration and insurance for to use the roads that i pay for. So is it really free even if its called free?

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Would you like to start on the Right to leave and return to your own country without first applying and paying for the privilege?
When was driving an enumerated right?
 
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