Is 12x7 gallon pots in 5x5 under 750w LED too many?

[LeastExpectedGrower]

..you wouldn't happen to have a Gorilla grow tent, would you?

hp sounds like like coco kind of, how do you feed using that medium? my local hardware store has 107L of that for $38. but I'm not seeing an organic label on it. why is it not considered organic?

It's peat, so not soil, but also not quite hydro. I've adjusted my target feed/water pH for it (down to 5.8-6.2) and I know that it doesn't have or hold nutrients. My setup is a little wonky right now because I'm using blumats, but generally I feed/water every other or feed/feed/water. I don't know that it qualifies as organic, but that may just be in the sourcing/harvesting. I'm not all that interested in jumping through organic hoops.

 

[Herb & Suds]

Well this thread certainly strayed from the OP

 

[bk78]

I’m assuming you are not familiar with bk78(the lion guy)

Hi

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Well this thread certainly strayed from the OP

That tends to happen when the OPs question gets answered within the first few posts and the thread continues on.

 

[Hotrod2]

or if you're going inside and have tons of space (both for large pots and headroom for huge plants). I don't believe that cannabis roots are infinitely expanding. Think of them more like other plants you may have around your house...they need a certain amount of space but don't necessarily expand to fill any space given if you give them a whole lot.

For instance, I have only a tent that's about 7' tall, once you factor in the pot/bag height then the 'hang' of the ventilation & lighting, I'm working with about 4.5' of vertical grow space. I've been using 5g bags and haven't felt like the roots have become so impacted that there wasn't already more room for them to expand when I've pulled the roots to see how they look after harvest.

...and I've actually considered moving to 3g bags since I'm using promix HP anyway which isn't a soil medium.

The good argument for large amounts of soil is if you're doing organic no-till.

 

[Hotrod2]

or if you're going inside and have tons of space (both for large pots and headroom for huge plants). I don't believe that cannabis roots are infinitely expanding. Think of them more like other plants you may have around your house...they need a certain amount of space but don't necessarily expand to fill any space given if you give them a whole lot.

For instance, I have only a tent that's about 7' tall, once you factor in the pot/bag height then the 'hang' of the ventilation & lighting, I'm working with about 4.5' of vertical grow space. I've been using 5g bags and haven't felt like the roots have become so impacted that there wasn't already more room for them to expand when I've pulled the roots to see how they look after harvest.

...and I've actually considered moving to 3g bags since I'm using promix HP anyway which isn't a soil medium.

The good argument for large amounts of soil is if you're doing organic no-till.

I use to use 5 gallon fabric pots for my girls. I have noticed that with using microbes, my plans are often root bound, so I've actually moved up to 7 gallon pots

 

[coreywebster]

I use to use 5 gallon fabric pots for my girls. I have noticed that with using microbes, my plans are often root bound, so I've actually moved up to 7 gallon pots

What do you define as root bound?
I'm not sure it's possible in fabric pots

 

[Hotrod2]

What do you define as root bound?
I'm not sure it's possible in fabric pots

In a 5 gallon pot 3 gallons would be the root ball.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

In a 5 gallon pot 3 gallons would be the root ball.

that sounds about right...i use 3 gallon hempy buckets, and i might get a gallon of coco back out of them when i reclaim it

 

[coreywebster]

that sounds about right...i use 3 gallon hempy buckets, and i might get a gallon of coco back out of them when i reclaim it

Where does it go Rodger?

 

[Hotrod2]

that sounds about right...i use 3 gallon hempy buckets, and i might get a gallon of coco back out of them when i reclaim it

I am happy with the quality of buds I grow. But I never seem to get the weight that I'm looking for. Do you think using organic nutrients will increase the volume? I just started using nectar of the Gods 3 weeks ago.

 

[LeastExpectedGrower]

In a 5 gallon pot 3 gallons would be the root ball.

Yeah, I try to keep my plants small and don't veg for extended periods since I have size limitations (also use limitations, we just don't go through a whole lot)...I'd be comfortable in 3g pots and know that the roots would really inhabit ALL the medium pretty compactly. Roots extend to the outsides of the 5g's but don't really have compact density that I'd associate with being root bound.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I am happy with the quality of buds I grow. But I never seem to get the weight that I'm looking for. Do you think using organic nutrients will increase the volume? I just started using nectar of the Gods 3 weeks ago.

organics is a whole integrated thing, and to get the most benefit out of it, you have to do the whole thing.
you have to use mycos, and benes, keep a compost heap, have a place to make soil mix, and can only use omri pesticides (which is all anyone should use, anyway.) .
you're looking for a high brix rate, and have to build your soil to support that. this is a pretty good explanation of what brix is, and how to adjust it.
of course, you also have to dial in your vapor pressure deficit, temperatures, air flow...to get the most out of your plants.

 

[Hotrod2]

organics is a whole integrated thing, and to get the most benefit out of it, you have to do the whole thing.
you have to use mycos, and benes, keep a compost heap, have a place to make soil mix, and can only use omri pesticides (which is all anyone should use, anyway.) .
you're looking for a high brix rate, and have to build your soil to support that. this is a pretty good explanation of what brix is, and how to adjust it.
of course, you also have to dial in your vapor pressure deficit, temperatures, air flow...to get the most out of your plants.

Seems like I still have a lot to learn thank you

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Seems like I still have a lot to learn thank you

oops, forgot the link somehow
https://www.maximumyield.com/building-up-the-brix-for-healthier-nutrient-dense-crops/2/1282