Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

DIY-HP-LED

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Do you think a trump appointed judge will actually look for one?
I won’t be surprised if it’s Lyndsey Graham
She ain't gonna die for Donald and Garland is in no rush, she embarrassed herself IMHO, but they might as well get the bullshit out of the way while they are waiting for the election to finish. I dunno what would happen if the DOJ indicted him a few weeks before the election, but all Hell would break loose on the right!

The main thing is to keep him in the public eye, holding rallies, saying crazy shit and waring with Mitch. Joe seems to be able to trigger Trump and if Hilary and Obama start ridiculing him over the secret documents, it will burn his ass bigly. If they call him an idiot and say he's stupid and sloppy, it will get the biggest reaction from Donald. They don't need to whip Donald's ass with pending legal action to get him into the election, his ego will lead him there, if Hillary or Obama hold his chain and jerk it.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
She ain't gonna die for Donald and Garland is in no rush, she embarrassed herself IMHO, but they might as well get the bullshit out of the way while they are waiting for the election to finish. I dunno what would happen if the DOJ indicted him a few weeks before the election, but all Hell would break loose on the right!

The main thing is to keep him in the public eye, holding rallies, saying crazy shit and waring with Mitch. Joe seems to be able to trigger Trump and if Hilary and Obama start ridiculing him over the secret documents, it will burn his ass bigly. If they call him an idiot and say he's stupid and sloppy, it will get the biggest reaction from Donald. They don't need to whip Donald's ass with pending legal action to get him into the election, his ego will lead him there, if Hillary or Obama hold his chain and jerk it.
On the plus side, she did say no restrictions on the national security assessment. That is the 900-foot kaiju in the room.


Though this looks like Elmo got a dose of Bruce Banner’s radiation.
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printer

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Judge orders halt to DOJ review of documents seized from Trump
A federal judge on Monday ordered a halt to the Justice Department’s review of materials seized from former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, describing a threat to institutions and the risk of media leaks that could cause harm to Trump.

“Plaintiff faces an unquantifiable potential harm by way of improper disclosure of sensitive information to the public,” U.S District Court Judge Aileen Cannon wrote in a 24-page ruling issued on Labor Day.

Cannon’s order included permitting a so-called special master to review the seized materials for potential attorney-client and executive privilege. Prosecutors expressed exasperation at Trump’s demand to review for executive privilege, noting that there is no precedent for a former executive to assert privilege to bar review of materials by a sitting executive branch — particularly when the government has determined the need is urgent.

Cannon, a Trump appointee who was confirmed a week after Trump’s defeat in the 2020 election, gave the Justice Department and Trump’s lawyers until Sept. 9 to submit a joint filing to propose a list of special master candidates and outlining their duties and limitations. In the meantime, Cannon ruled that the documents would not be returned to Trump.

The Justice Department indicated that if Cannon were to make a ruling of this kind, she should formally enjoin the department, a format that would permit an appeal. A department spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In her ruling, Cannon specifically wrote that the appointment of a special master “shall not impede” the intelligence community’s ongoing assessment of whether Trump’s possession of the top-secret documents caused harm to U.S. national security. That review, which began in response to inquiries from Congress, is being spearheaded by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

Such a carve-out for the ODNI, though, could be potentially unworkable because the FBI, an arm of the Justice Department, is a member of the intelligence community and could be consulted as part of the ODNI review. A spokesperson for ODNI declined to comment on Cannon’s ruling Monday.
Cannon premised her ruling primarily on Trump’s claims of potential harm of the materials becoming public. She noted that a still-sealed report of items seized by a Justice Department “filter team” — tasked with screening out attorney-client-privileged material — said that “medical documents, correspondence related to taxes, and accounting information” were among them.

Cannon also described “leaks” to the media of information related to the seized materials as a potential risk to Trump, though she acknowledged being unsure of the provenance of those purported leaks.

She also repeatedly emphasized the extraordinary circumstance of the search of a former president’s residence.

“As a function of Plaintiff’s former position as President of the United States, the stigma associated with the subject seizure is in a league of its own,” she wrote. “A future indictment, based to any degree on property that ought to be returned, would result in reputational harm of a decidedly different order of magnitude.”

Cannon also criticized the government’s process for screening potentially privileged material, noting that investigators twice revealed that they had flagged potential privileged material that was not screened by the filter team.

Justice Department attorneys said these flags were actually “examples of the filter process working.”

“The Court is not so sure,” Cannon wrote. “These instances certainly are demonstrative of integrity on the part of the Investigative Team members who returned the potentially privileged material. But they also indicate that, on more than one occasion, the Privilege Review Team’s initial screening failed to identify potentially privileged material.”

Cannon, citing Nixon-era case law that the Justice Department said decisively undercut Trump’s effort to cite executive privilege, rejected the government’s contention that Trump could never, under these circumstances, be able to successfully assert executive privilege to block the department’s review of the materials.

“The Supreme Court did not rule out the possibility of a former President overcoming an incumbent President on executive privilege matters,” she wrote.

Cannon noted that Trump has not asserted executive privilege over any of the materials seized from his home. Notably, Trump opted against taking the matter to court in May, when the Justice Department first expressed an interest in reviewing the classified material taken from his home and the National Archives granted access to the investigators over Trump’s protests.
 

Herb & Suds

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Judge orders halt to DOJ review of documents seized from Trump
A federal judge on Monday ordered a halt to the Justice Department’s review of materials seized from former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, describing a threat to institutions and the risk of media leaks that could cause harm to Trump.

“Plaintiff faces an unquantifiable potential harm by way of improper disclosure of sensitive information to the public,” U.S District Court Judge Aileen Cannon wrote in a 24-page ruling issued on Labor Day.

Cannon’s order included permitting a so-called special master to review the seized materials for potential attorney-client and executive privilege. Prosecutors expressed exasperation at Trump’s demand to review for executive privilege, noting that there is no precedent for a former executive to assert privilege to bar review of materials by a sitting executive branch — particularly when the government has determined the need is urgent.

Cannon, a Trump appointee who was confirmed a week after Trump’s defeat in the 2020 election, gave the Justice Department and Trump’s lawyers until Sept. 9 to submit a joint filing to propose a list of special master candidates and outlining their duties and limitations. In the meantime, Cannon ruled that the documents would not be returned to Trump.

The Justice Department indicated that if Cannon were to make a ruling of this kind, she should formally enjoin the department, a format that would permit an appeal. A department spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In her ruling, Cannon specifically wrote that the appointment of a special master “shall not impede” the intelligence community’s ongoing assessment of whether Trump’s possession of the top-secret documents caused harm to U.S. national security. That review, which began in response to inquiries from Congress, is being spearheaded by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

Such a carve-out for the ODNI, though, could be potentially unworkable because the FBI, an arm of the Justice Department, is a member of the intelligence community and could be consulted as part of the ODNI review. A spokesperson for ODNI declined to comment on Cannon’s ruling Monday.
Cannon premised her ruling primarily on Trump’s claims of potential harm of the materials becoming public. She noted that a still-sealed report of items seized by a Justice Department “filter team” — tasked with screening out attorney-client-privileged material — said that “medical documents, correspondence related to taxes, and accounting information” were among them.

Cannon also described “leaks” to the media of information related to the seized materials as a potential risk to Trump, though she acknowledged being unsure of the provenance of those purported leaks.

She also repeatedly emphasized the extraordinary circumstance of the search of a former president’s residence.

“As a function of Plaintiff’s former position as President of the United States, the stigma associated with the subject seizure is in a league of its own,” she wrote. “A future indictment, based to any degree on property that ought to be returned, would result in reputational harm of a decidedly different order of magnitude.”

Cannon also criticized the government’s process for screening potentially privileged material, noting that investigators twice revealed that they had flagged potential privileged material that was not screened by the filter team.

Justice Department attorneys said these flags were actually “examples of the filter process working.”

“The Court is not so sure,” Cannon wrote. “These instances certainly are demonstrative of integrity on the part of the Investigative Team members who returned the potentially privileged material. But they also indicate that, on more than one occasion, the Privilege Review Team’s initial screening failed to identify potentially privileged material.”

Cannon, citing Nixon-era case law that the Justice Department said decisively undercut Trump’s effort to cite executive privilege, rejected the government’s contention that Trump could never, under these circumstances, be able to successfully assert executive privilege to block the department’s review of the materials.

“The Supreme Court did not rule out the possibility of a former President overcoming an incumbent President on executive privilege matters,” she wrote.

Cannon noted that Trump has not asserted executive privilege over any of the materials seized from his home. Notably, Trump opted against taking the matter to court in May, when the Justice Department first expressed an interest in reviewing the classified material taken from his home and the National Archives granted access to the investigators over Trump’s protests.
She has been ordered to let him off
 

DIY-HP-LED

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On the plus side, she did say no restrictions on the national security assessment. That is the 900-foot kaiju in the room.


Though this looks like Elmo got a dose of Bruce Banner’s radiation.
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I don't see it being much of an issue in the long run, it will be two or three months before Garland indicts him for it anyway. He still would like Georgia to have a crack at him first, but Donald did step into the bear trap and it sprang shut. His TV trial in Georgia will have the biggest impact IMHO, it will be epic with wall to wall coverage. A lot of this shit will be tried in 2023 and 2024, that's aside from what an independent special counsel will do to republicans and others found out, as the rocks are turned over and the slimy things are exposed. Everyone who cuts a deal must confess to their crimes, plus any other crimes they have knowledge of, remember who you are dealing with here. ;-)
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I don't see it being much of an issue in the long run, it will be two or three months before Garland indicts him for it anyway. He still would like Georgia to have a crack at him first, but Donald did step into the bear trap and it sprang shut. His TV trial in Georgia will have the biggest impact IMHO, it will be epic with wall to wall coverage. Al lot of this shit will be tried in 2023 and 2024, that's aside from what an independent special counsel will do to republicans and others found out, as the rocks are turned over and the slimy things are exposed. Everyone who cuts a deal must confess to their crimes, plus any other crimes they have knowledge of, remember who you are dealing with here. ;-)
I do not share your tactical calculation, but I agree that the maneuverings at the Federal level will drag the participants down with the sinking ship.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I do not share your tactical calculation, but I agree that the maneuverings at the Federal level will drag the participants down with the sinking ship.
We will see, much depends on the election results, if they win, I'm betting on an independent special counsel, not for Trump and his WH minions, but for the others involved. If they win or not, Trump will disappear, except for his future trials and he could be in an orange jumpsuit for those. Either Trump goes to prison or the republic will not survive, it's that simple, you will have the rule of law, or you will have Trump or worse. There won't be much trouble from Mitch when Donald is put away and no matter what they promise the base, they will never pardon him, but might make some noise. Donald will continue to haunt them while he is in prison and every presidential hopeful will have to promise to pardon him, including DeSantis.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Judge grants Trump request for special master to review Mar-a-Lago docs
A federal judge on Monday accepted former President Trump's bid for a special master to review evidence seized by the FBI in the search at his Mar-a-Lago residence last month.

Driving the news: Judge Aileen Cannon ruled for a special master to be appointed "to review the seized property for personal items and documents and potentially privileged material subject to claims of attorney-client and/or executive privilege," per the filing.
  • Cannon, a Trump-appointed judge, in the order also "temporarily enjoins the government from reviewing and using the seized materials for investigative purposes pending completion of the special master’s review or further Court order."
Between the lines: "This order shall not impede the classification review and/or intelligence assessment," Cannon wrote.

The big picture: In a filing last week, Trump's legal team accused the Department of Justice of "criminalizing" his possession of presidential records.
  • "Left unchecked, the DOJ will impugn, leak, and publicize selective aspects of their investigation with no recourse for [Trump] but to somehow trust the self-restraint of currently unchecked investigators," per the court filing.
The DOJ has opposed Trump's request for the third-party attorney, citing "national security interests."
  • The DOJ also rebuked Trump's claims that the documents are shielded by attorney-client and executive privileges. The Justice Department has argued that the records belong to the government, not Trump.
What to watch: Cannon gave the DOJ and Trump's legal team until Sept. 9 to submit a filing that includes a list of proposed special master candidates.
well, this seems like as good a time as any to indict the motherfucker, throw his ass in jail, and set the bail at, oh....a billion? seems like a fair amount to keep someone as rich as he claims to be from skipping out to russia...of course, if he can't come up with it, he can work it off at 12 cents an hour, plus a cut of the cans, when the road gang crew leader turns it in at the aluminum recycling center
 

Budzbuddha

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Dream list : Special Master


1. Obama : “ Surprise … Mother Fucker “
2. Hillary : * Loud cackle
3. Katy Porter : with her Whiteboard of Doom - love her evisceration of Big Oil and Big Pharma ( legend :bigjoint: )

IMO the DOJ already has particular checkboxes already done in their investigation , in preparation of trump’s dipping and dodging tactics.
The damage assessment alone to national security will be hard to dispute. They still have had documents , assorted papers , notes and other
things to “ pre-screen , catalog and study “ for weeks. Trump’s final speed bump will not magically change the clearance status of those documents.

It’s like a drug dealer saying it’s just cocaine suspended in liquid instead of powdered bricks …… semantics .
He knows the last shoe is gonna drop and this frivolous step will not change the basis of the case. He is out there trying to please the court of public opinion with the same tired , false outbursts . He deflects to Biden , EV’s , Defunding the FBI and other childish claims. The DOJ has the orange
simpleton by his baby dick - he is already inciting more violence and rally cries. He will scorch earth his last days when indicted. He would rather
gut the country kicking and screaming then accept the inevitable. He should be considered a national threat , even without the documents.

DOJ still has field work to do …. Witnesses , staff interviews , video , forensics , possibly even call logs and other avenues those docs could have
available to other entities from orange windbag. National Secrets would have to have extreme investigative procedures done regardless of a delay.
I think he believes by having something leaked to him about the strength of case against him will change the narrative , it won’t.
I believe even more damaging information is coming - including more players.

DOJ is palming 4 of kind aces ( or better ) to trumps pocket 2’s

Let the rat think the cheese is safe to eat.
 
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