Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 41 28.5%

  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 35 24.3%

  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 68 47.2%
  • Total voters
    144
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Roger A. Shrubber said:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature04072
that's the most comprehensive article i could find, that seems to be one "fact" that is actually fact
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Thanks. My impulse is to use a different criterion. Any gene that is homologous but not identical, or has no homolog in both species, scores a No. It is a tougher criterion by which I doubt we would even reach 25% equivalence.

It is all in the definitions of terms and procedures imo.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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the leaves are starting to change in the mountains, at least a month too early. i don't know if it's because the hotter than usual weather has just aged them faster, or if it presages a particularly harsh winter? which ever, they usually peak in mid october, but i wouldn't be surprised at bit if they were all fried and dropping by the end of september at this rate
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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this could help, but farmland needs rest occasionally, and they'll pretty much have to plant a cover crop every other year, like alfalfa, to keep the soil from being depleted...things are still changing, they're going to have to keep changing and adapting farming practices till the weather stabilizes at least partially.
i don't know whats coming, but i know the map 20 years from now won't look like the map today, and the map 20 years after that will be entirely different again.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-united-states-iowa-agriculture-1b88fb9025700a06ab789575198b35b8
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
this could help, but farmland needs rest occasionally, and they'll pretty much have to plant a cover crop every other year, like alfalfa, to keep the soil from being depleted...things are still changing, they're going to have to keep changing and adapting farming practices till the weather stabilizes at least partially.
i don't know whats coming, but i know the map 20 years from now won't look like the map today, and the map 20 years after that will be entirely different again.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-united-states-iowa-agriculture-1b88fb9025700a06ab789575198b35b8
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www.wired.com

This Scary Map Shows How Climate Change Will Transform Your City

Click on your city, and the map will pinpoint a modern analog city that matches what your climate may be in 2080. The results are startling.
www.wired.com www.wired.com

"a new interactive map is perhaps one of the best visualizations yet of how climate change will transform America. Click on your city, and the map will pinpoint a modern analog city that matches what your climate may be in 2080. New York city will feel more like today’s Jonesboro, Arkansas; the Bay Area more like LA; and LA more like the very tip of Baja California. If this doesn’t put the dire threat of climate change into perspective for you, I’m not sure what will."

The app. Type in your city and it will find a city that today has the kind of climate your locale will have 60 years out. Two scenarios: high emissions and if we reduce them


My area is forecast to be 7 C warmer and 84% drier. All of Oregon's forests will go up in smoke if that happens.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
ANC said:
tomorrow is spring day...
My wife just asked me if she has a fever as it is like 10:30 pm and still about 21C
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45 here; we started a week of rather warm forecast conditions.
The lows are around 25, but the shape of the curve is odd. 37 at sundown, still 33 at 1am (but opening the windows pays off at last), below thirty for a narrow downspike between 4 and 7 am.

I am avoiding using the AC. It sucks down four kilowatts, and afternoon rates here are $.55/kWh. The hot side is on the south of the house and gets full sun. This has an effect on heat transfer rate even with full power draw.

I make it by using redneck AC (a damp T-shirt)
and using a pair of fans to draw air through the house whenever outside < inside.

What’s killing me is that the two refrigerators are almost always running. They’re designed for indoor use with at worst a 25-degree difference. When it hits and exceeds 35, they run and run. I operate the stove only at night.

Sometimes a night wind comes up, and that cancels the cooling trend. Last year I had a day where the low at sunrise was 33.

The trifecta:

hot days and nights,
a central AC not built to dump heat efficiently when it’s 40+ out,
extraordinary energy prices.

Add that our weather service lies. I have seen days where the forecast was for 38. The instantaneous on their site topped at 43. My high on a good shaded thermometer, 46. Record temp for the calendar day, 46.
Next day, “yesterday’s high” 39. I think the weather bosses are Republicans or something.
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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cannabineer said:
45 here; we started a week of rather warm forecast conditions.
The lows are around 25, but the shape of the curve is odd. 37 at sundown, still 33 at 1am (but opening the windows pays off at last), below thirty for a narrow downspike between 4 and 7 am.

I am avoiding using the AC. It sucks down four kilowatts, and afternoon rates here are $.55/kWh. The hot side is on the south of the house and gets full sun. This has an effect on heat transfer rate even with full power draw.

I make it by using redneck AC (a damp T-shirt)
and using a pair of fans to draw air through the house whenever outside < inside.

What’s killing me is that the two refrigerators are almost always running. They’re designed for indoor use with at worst a 25-degree difference. When it hits and exceeds 35, they run and run. I operate the stove only at night.

Sometimes a night wind comes up, and that cancels the cooling trend. Last year I had a day where the low at sunrise was 33.

The trifecta:

hot days and nights,
a central AC not built to dump heat efficiently when it’s 40+ out,
extraordinary energy prices.

Add that our weather service lies. I have seen days where the forecast was for 38. The instantaneous on their site topped at 43. My high on a good shaded thermometer, 46. Record temp for the calendar day, 46.
Next day, “yesterday’s high” 39. I think the weather bosses are Republicans or something.
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Holy crap at your rates :o! Have you tried evaporative cooling (not your neck lol)? Have never seen one in action as they don’t work well here. I guess water might be an issue as well. Desert huh …… ya na lol.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Budley Doright said:
Holy crap at your rates :o! Have you tried evaporative cooling (not your neck lol)? Have never seen one in action as they don’t work well here. I guess water might be an issue as well. Desert huh …… ya na lol.
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They fail at very high outdoor temps, which is when I’d be relying on one. And with my evolving desert ethics, I hesitate to quadruple my water demand.

I find 95F at 15% easier to bear than 85 at 70%.

Even with just the damp shirt, my room gets up to 35%. Walking from dry to less dry at 95 degrees makes an almost physical impact.

Sometimes I fantasize about a house built for the conditions, with outstanding insulation and thick foam shutters for the glazing. And enough solar to drive climate control off grid.
 
Dr.Amber Trichome

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Tomorrow is a Power Saver Reward Day for me.
The more energy i save between 4 pm and 9 pm the higher my reward will be. We like to keep the apartment as dark as possible with the blinds closed and light off all day long. It’s the beginning of a six day long, if not longer, heat wave. there are some cool zones I saw posted as well, places where one can find air conditioning safe zones. I might go check one out.
 
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