I think it's nitrogen deficiency

[LoveBudz420]

The strain is Pamir Gold from Dutch Passion.

Grown outside in super soil. Here it is VERY HOT so she will drink more than if she is somewhere northern. I am in Thailand.

She is about 2 weeks into flower (about 8-9 weeks old I think), with bud sites everywhere. But it seems she is (and I'm guessing here from some research, first-time grow guys) pulling a lot of nitrogen, and I think I need to do something. I already added another good 1-1.5" of super soil as a top dress. I can probably top dress a bit more....

I'm also not sure what is with the red/purple stems on the leaves. I just gave her a Cal-Mag feed.

I also just gave her a good foliar feeding of fish and kelp.

on hand, I have a lot of things (NONE of these have been used in the soil yet in this grow, I did use some foliar); I have no idea what to use and/or how to use it... first time grow.

Composted leaf materials, worm castings, bat guano, glacial rock dust, Azomite.
&
General Hydroponics FloraSeries (FloraMicro, FloraBloom and FloraGro) (unused)
&
Everything in the BioBizz line of Nutes (unused) that includes FishMix, Bio-Grow, Bio-Bloom, Top-Max, Alg-A-Mic, Bio-Heaven, Acti-Vera
&
Azos + Mykos

I never used any of the liquid nutes because I fried some plants, and now I'm scared of them.

 

[keep it real.]

If this was my plant I would keep it simple and safe, I would use a couple handfuls of EWC, supersoil 1/4 strength of fish mix washed in with black strap molasses1/2 tbs/G, I wouldn’t go heavy on the nitrogen. I think what you’re seeing is a nitrogen deficiency caused by the pre flower stretch she just went through. Go easy on the feeding now cause you will need to come up with a flower feed probably next week. (Depends on much more she wants to stretch. They look good tho. Don’t lose sleep over it.

 

[LoveBudz420]

If this was my plant I would keep it simple and safe, I would use a couple handfuls of EWC, supersoil 1/4 strength of fish mix washed in with black strap molasses1/2 tbs/G, I wouldn’t go heavy on the nitrogen. I think what you’re seeing is a nitrogen deficiency caused by the pre flower stretch she just went through. Go easy on the feeding now cause you will need to come up with a flower feed probably next week. (Depends on much more she wants to stretch. They look good tho. Don’t lose sleep over it.

Thank you so much for the reassuring answer. For a first-time grow, I think it is going kinda ok.

I have a product described as "This rich infusion of organic fish emulsion from the North Sea, mixed together with extract of 100% organic Dutch sugar beet, helps accelerate the growth of all living organisms in the substrate."

Does that sugar beet make a reasonable substitution for Black Strap, in terms of sugars?

 

[keep it real.]

Yep, then I would just use that and skip the fish mix

 

[LoveBudz420]

Thanks!

FYI, that description above is the BioBizz* Fish Mix. Fish and beets.

* This should not be considered any kind of recommendation for BioBizz products. So far, I have killed more plants than successfully raised with these products. I previously followed the manufacturer's recommended doses, but now I know better.

 

[LoveBudz420]

Yep, then I would just use that and skip the fish mix

How will I know that my small amendments have worked or started to work? Am I expecting a little darkening of some of the leaves that have lightened, but haven't been completely drained of their nitrogen?

Also, if you have any tips on how to approach feeding her in flower, I would be grateful.

 

[keep it real.]

How will I know that my small amendments have worked or started to work? Am I expecting a little darkening of some of the leaves that have lightened, but haven't been completely drained of their nitrogen?

Also, if you have any tips on how to approach feeding her in flower, I would be grateful.

Old growth does not repair itself. You will notice the leaves standing up and an pickup in growth if all the plants needs have been met, time frame for organic is 7-14 days to break down.
Advice for bloom feeding. That can be difficult not knowing what is in the super soil you are using. I would use EWC, rock dust, and bio bloom. I would go much less then recommended on the packaging because of the heat you said you are experiencing. Maybe start with a 1/8. You can always add more later.

 

[keep it real.]

Take detailed notes of what you have done each grow and when. That way you can adjust things each grow and revert back to what worked better.

 

[LoveBudz420]

Old growth does not repair itself. You will notice the leaves standing up and an pickup in growth if all the plants needs have been met, time frame for organic is 7-14 days to break down.
Advice for bloom feeding. That can be difficult not knowing what is in the super soil you are using. I would use EWC, rock dust, and bio bloom. I would go much less then recommended on the packaging because of the heat you said you are experiencing. Maybe start with a 1/8. You can always add more later.

She looks perky.

I appreciate your input on the bloom.
When you say EWC, are you meaning additional top dress along the way? or are we thinking about EWC tea? or both?

Can I/Is there any point in mixing rock dust with water? Or should I just dust a little on the surface and let that get watered in slowly?

I thank you for focusing on the heat when it comes to the liquid nutes recommendation. I have found them to be "very potent," and we all know manufacturers love to make you use up their product, but I think the feeding rate here in this heat is contributing to previous burned and failed grows.

For the last 12 hours I have been pondering this question to myself also. I've confused myself so badly that I'm going to ask your input.

Here is the feeding chart for BioBizz.

https://www.biobizz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Nutrient-Schedule-EN_2021-1.pdf

Now let's imagine that someone was following this chart precisely (which we know to be an error, but for the sake of this example, let's assume that).

Now let's imagine we are in week 10, using basically everything at once. You have, as an example, BioBloom @ 4ml/L and example BioHeaven @ 5ml/L ... My question is... Am I putting the 4ml of Bloom and the 5ml of Heaven into the same 1L, or should I be allowing 1L for each product and mixing 4ml into 1L and 5ml into another 1L? (of course, they can all be mixed together in the end, I'm just trying to figure out the ratios)

Because I have been getting 1L and putting ALL of the ingredients into it... and now I suspect my new nickname around here will be CaptainFryMyPlants

 

[keep it real.]

I would too dress the EWC, can’t overdo them. They really help with soil health. The key here is soil health, feed the soil to be healthy and the rest will follow.
You would mix all the solutions together in the same waterings.

 

[Grow Monster]

Epsom salt gave me instant results in 2 days plant started to green up. Mine was same color as yours.

 

[Grow Monster]

Plant looks gd tho could be greener. I'd remove all the lower yellowing leaves. Once u feed the soil as u have just sit back an let them work. I don't see any deficiency so u are golden imo.