A Guide To Colloidal Silver

[OldMedUser]

he told me that you just need to tip the stick for short in to the solution.

the ward sticks should be easy to get and prob dont cause much raised eyebrowes in the pharmacy.

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in canada.
75% silver nitrate and 25% potassium nitrate
easy to weight the powder of a stick and get some idea.

i forgot how much thiosulfate he used, he wasnt very precise with his mixes i think.
but as nachoo said, tip the top of the stick in to the mix and spray it, doubt the last 0.1g will count here.

Pretty hit and miss there. Think I'll stick with known preparations myself. You need 0.5 - 0.8g of silver nitrate for a batch of stock sol'n and I doubt there's that much on all 100 of those wart sticks. The proportions could be reduced to make smaller batches with a little math but still as easy usually to get a little pure silver nitrate when you source the sodium thio.

 

[cobshopgrow]

it sounded like you have no easy source for silver nitrate in canada, like in europe.
its to get but, not without giving your passport data.

i found his recommenation, was more detailed then i remebered.
"
Those sticks at least in Spain contain about 50mg per stick of silver nitrate ..
The formula using those sticks is:
333 to 750ml destilled water (less water makes a stronger solution) . I used 333 ml
1 stick containing 50 mg silver nitrate
0,1733 gr of Sodium Thiosulfate Pentahydrate .

Disolve first the Sodium Thiosulfate Pentahydrate in the water.. then add the stick or the silver nitrate ..move it in the water..it disolves very quick. Keep the resulting solution in the refrigerator protected from light... The final solution last for some time..I use it for a maximun of 3 weeks..if need more I make the solution again.
Sodium Thiosulfate Pentahydrate in water can last a lot..but when you add the silver nitrate .. you have to use it in the next 3 weeks. "
Nachooo

so no worries there, they do contain enough silver nitrate and dosage is easy, one stick one batch.

 

[OldMedUser]

it sounded like you have no easy source for silver nitrate in canada, like in europe.
its to get but, not without giving your passport data.

i found his recommenation, was more detailed then i remebered.
"
Those sticks at least in Spain contain about 50mg per stick of silver nitrate ..
The formula using those sticks is:
333 to 750ml destilled water (less water makes a stronger solution) . I used 333 ml
1 stick containing 50 mg silver nitrate
0,1733 gr of Sodium Thiosulfate Pentahydrate .

Disolve first the Sodium Thiosulfate Pentahydrate in the water.. then add the stick or the silver nitrate ..move it in the water..it disolves very quick. Keep the resulting solution in the refrigerator protected from light... The final solution last for some time..I use it for a maximun of 3 weeks..if need more I make the solution again.
Sodium Thiosulfate Pentahydrate in water can last a lot..but when you add the silver nitrate .. you have to use it in the next 3 weeks. "
Nachooo

so no worries there, they do contain enough silver nitrate and dosage is easy, one stick one batch.

Nice little work-around there. Luckily for me I have a diploma in chemistry and had the needed strong nitric acid to make my own silver nitrate. Finding some aluminum wire to hang the coin on was the hard part. Finally cut a strip off a large aluminum oven liner tray and folded it into a long strip. Aluminum won't react with nitric acid and if you just drop the coin in it will be too violent of a reaction and blow the hot acid all over the place. Drilled a hole just big enough to get my 'wire' thru and that worked fine.

 

[cobshopgrow]

nitric acid can be nasty.
i had a bottle ph- 20y ago made of it, it left some good scars on my kitchen workbench.
dont remember which concentration it was.

 

[OldMedUser]

nitric acid can be nasty.
i had a bottle ph- 20y ago made of it, it left some good scars on my kitchen workbench.
dont remember which concentration it was.

I used to work as a chemist in a hazardous waste disposal facility near Vancouver, BC and took a lot of goodies home with me. This nitric I have is 69% so could burn you a new butthole PDQ. I have about 4x the volume of 96% sulphuric acid and that will burn a bigger butthole faster!

 

[EKG Cal Canna]

What are you using to get 15,000V, a neon sign transformer? I bought a new TDS pen that measures in single digits and diluted 1000ppm calibration sol'n down to 20ppm and calibrate the pen to that to check my CS and RO water. I just use a 28vDC wall wart for power and a simple current limiting circuit to adjust the current flow to keep particle size small. Supposedly you can multiply the reading by 2 - 2.5 to get a close approximation of the actual ppm but it takes electron spectroscopy or something like that to get true ppm and most of the stuff sold is just a wild guess as to it's actual concentration.

Personally I doubt that 10ml CS to a gallon is going to do much including causing hermies and certainly not cause crazy growth. Why would you want to kill off fungi in your medium anyhow?

I figure my CS to be around 12-15ppm and it works great for tooth infections and things like toenail fungus. My wife uses it on her chickens when they get infections. Adds it to their drinking water and sprays some on any wounds to good effect. We keep a small sprayer in the bathroom so it's handy for small cuts etc.

I've been meaning to take a couple of clones and treat one with CS to see what happens so must do that soon.

Yes a neon transformer, it makes a nano silver.maybe the strength causes the herm. I feed a salt based feed so the fungus & bacteria in the medium is not an issue for me. H202 wipes it out when I use organic feeds but root rots seem to rise back up in just a couple days after H202. I use silver to heal most animal & human diseases but my results with cannabis have turned hermie

 

[1dude1seed]

You can get the anhydrous sodium thiosulfate and silver nitrate both on amazon with free shipping.

I went the STS route. Ordered everything but failed to notice one key thing. Everyone that I’ve noticed is using powdered silver nitrate.

I managed to order a liquid form from Amazon. Any idea how much to use in my stock mix? Or should I just return it?

 

[Star Dog]

I've ordered silver nitrate and thiosulphate,
Is there any particular storage requirements for either item?

 

[1dude1seed]

From what I understand, cool and dark is best. The part A and part B last a long time when not mixed.

I’m seeing various answers as to how long the solution will last when mixed. Everywhere from a month to several months.

 

[Star Dog]

I'm just kicking some thoughts around...
If I flower all of my mothers treated with silver how close would the seeds be to the mother in terms of terps and potency?
Assuming it's successful.

I've a few I'd like to keep but if i could get seeds from them the same that would be my way to go.

 

[Rurumo]

I'm just kicking some thoughts around...
If I flower all of my mothers treated with silver how close would the seeds be to the mother in terms of terps and potency?
Assuming it's successful.

I've a few I'd like to keep but if i could get seeds from them the same that would be my way to go.

Do you mean if you make S1s out of them? Reverse and pollinate the same cut? S1s can be dicey, it's all up to the individual plant as to how well those genetics will work in an S1. Some plants, like OGs, make great S1s with many potential keepers per pack. Sometimes you can find something very close to the original cut. Not all plants make good S1s just like not every cross is a good genetic match. As far as reversing one of your cuts, then pollinating a different cut of yours with it, it works very similar to male/female breeding except that you really know what each parent can do in flower with fems, whereas, with males, you need the skill to pick a good one. I'll mix up some STS tomorrow and start spraying my Strawberry Cough clone to get it started too, I've been wanting to make more S1s for a long time.

Making S1s is a good way to "back up" your favorite clones-especially if you make a lot of seeds. Look at CSI Humboldt, they do lots of S1s and he has found multiple keeper Chem 91 S1s (among others) that are equal or better to the original cuts, but as a business, he has the space to grow big #s.

 

[Star Dog]

Do you mean if you make S1s out of them? Reverse and pollinate the same cut? S1s can be dicey, it's all up to the individual plant as to how well those genetics will work in an S1. Some plants, like OGs, make great S1s with many potential keepers per pack. Sometimes you can find something very close to the original cut. Not all plants make good S1s just like not every cross is a good genetic match. As far as reversing one of your cuts, then pollinating a different cut of yours with it, it works very similar to male/female breeding except that you really know what each parent can do in flower with fems, whereas, with males, you need the skill to pick a good one. I'll mix up some STS tomorrow and start spraying my Strawberry Cough clone to get it started too, I've been wanting to make more S1s for a long time.

Making S1s is a good way to "back up" your favorite clones-especially if you make a lot of seeds. Look at CSI Humboldt, they do lots of S1s and he has found multiple keeper Chem 91 S1s (among others) that are equal or better to the original cuts, but as a business, he has the space to grow big #s.

Thanks very much for this you're a great help.

 

[Tas devil]

I bought some femme spray in australia.dunno what it was but had to spray everyday for like a good couple weeks....it never worked so i bought some elite x elite spray .used it once and it knocked the female plant for 6 but at day 16 in flower room it started showing balls and by 4 weeks had the sacs opening up everywhere..expensive stuff but didnt use much of it at all out of 8 once bottle...highly reccomend it.

 

[xtsho]

I bought some femme spray in australia.dunno what it was but had to spray everyday for like a good couple weeks....it never worked so i bought some elite x elite spray .used it once and it knocked the female plant for 6 but at day 16 in flower room it started showing balls and by 4 weeks had the sacs opening up everywhere..expensive stuff but didnt use much of it at all out of 8 once bottle...highly reccomend it.

The first spray you bought was more than likely CS which quite often CS purchased from various entities does not work which is why those that are most successful using CS typically make it themselves.

The second spray you got that did work was likely STS which is much more reliable than CS. Here in the USA the two chemicals used to make STS are readily available and for around $50 you can purchase enough to make gallons of the spray.

I don't know what's available in Australia but if you plan on doing reversals in the future you can make your own STS solution with silver nitrate and sodium thiosulfate. If you can acquire those two chemicals you'll be able to make STS whenever you need.

 

[Rurumo]

Ebay has cheap silver nitrate and sodium thiosulfate anhydrous.

 

[Poontanger]

I bought some femme spray in australia.dunno what it was but had to spray everyday for like a good couple weeks....it never worked so i bought some elite x elite spray .used it once and it knocked the female plant for 6 but at day 16 in flower room it started showing balls and by 4 weeks had the sacs opening up everywhere..expensive stuff but didnt use much of it at all out of 8 once bottle...highly reccomend it.

Interesting, I'm currently making CS & applying,but not expecting much as I see a lot of these claims
Making the CS to 25 ppm & spraying 3 times a day
May I ask were you got your elite X. ?
Cheers

 

[Tas devil]

I think i got it through amazon au mate from the states..came in powdered form and just had to make some distilled water on the stove..seeds are starting to show now at day 40 in flower.you can see sacs in bottom pic on the reversal.

 

[Tas devil]

The first spray you bought was more than likely CS which quite often CS purchased from various entities does not work which is why those that are most successful using CS typically make it themselves.

The second spray you got that did work was likely STS which is much more reliable than CS. Here in the USA the two chemicals used to make STS are readily available and for around $50 you can purchase enough to make gallons of the spray.

I don't know what's available in Australia but if you plan on doing reversals in the future you can make your own STS solution with silver nitrate and sodium thiosulfate. If you can acquire those two chemicals you'll be able to make STS whenever you need.

Cool..is the sts one application and done..

 

[Poontanger]

Found this on eBay Australia,,
Does anybody know anything much about this product ?
Poon

 

[Poontanger]

Ebay has cheap silver nitrate and sodium thiosulfate anhydrous.

I have red that mixing these two together is quite dangerous as it is very toxic, can you please tell me what you know about making STS and any danger involved using these products