Speaking of which ... sorry to quote myself, bad forum form. I just found the single seed I saved from that Tangie purchase. It's been sitting on my bookshelf for at least 8 years and I found it while cleaning last week.
Feel kind of smug about how clean my studio is right now. .Anyway, kind of curious if putting it under the new 330w LED would get different results because I'm definitely getting more light on the plants these days. Big IF I can get it to pop, I don't think I've ever tried to germ an 8+ year old seed.