rkymtnman
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6 years ago i would have dismissed that as jibberish. but now, i'm sadly realizing that it could be reality.
@CunningCanuk you got room for 3 if tRump wins again????? lol
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@CunningCanuk you got room for 3 if tRump wins again????? lol
Herb & Suds
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Canada will probably give us a place to stay if we promise to build a wall
printer
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Yes, I give her marks for standing up for the rule of law and the Constitution. I am not a fan of her views but at least I can respect her for not being a dickwad.Who would you prefer? Manchin or Liz Cheney?
Liz Cheney. Career voting record on crucial progressive issues: 3.5%
Manchin. Career voting record on crucial progressive issues: 63%
ProgressivePunch: House Members by score / All issues
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Cheney only looks good now because she's one of the few Republicans who still support Democracy. She hasn't changed her positions on the environment, education, civil rights, fair housing, labor rights or fair taxation. Her record on these issues is mostly against progress.
No shit.
rkymtnman
Well-Known Member
that was more a joke than a prediction. but there seems to be 3 parties now: the trumplicans, the real gop that can't stand trump and the dems.Who would you prefer? Manchin or Liz Cheney?
Liz Cheney. Career voting record on crucial progressive issues: 3.5%
Manchin. Career voting record on crucial progressive issues: 63%
ProgressivePunch: House Members by score / All issues
ProgressivePunch is a searchable database of Congressional voting records, from a Progressive perspective.
Cheney only looks good now because she's one of the few Republicans who still support Democracy. She hasn't changed her positions on the environment, education, civil rights, fair housing, labor rights or fair taxation. Her record on these issues is mostly against progress.
but to your ?: manchin, then cheney than sinema. sinema is a whore for whoever cuts her a check
printer
Well-Known Member
No, you do not need to build a wall, just be polite.
CunningCanuk
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Come on up whenever you want, buddy! I could use some help in the garden!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
good point; thanks for the info. Once Manchin goes green and says “so long, and thanks for all the fish” to carbon monies, I’ll rouse from my complacent state.Who would you prefer? Manchin or Liz Cheney?
Liz Cheney. Career voting record on crucial progressive issues: 3.5%
Manchin. Career voting record on crucial progressive issues: 63%
ProgressivePunch: House Members by score / All issues
ProgressivePunch is a searchable database of Congressional voting records, from a Progressive perspective.
Cheney only looks good now because she's one of the few Republicans who still support Democracy. She hasn't changed her positions on the environment, education, civil rights, fair housing, labor rights or fair taxation. Her record on these issues is mostly against progress.
Speaking of core progressive issues …
CoastalMarySeeds
Well-Known Member
Or a discreet privacy hedge at least
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
xtsho
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Hey now. If I missed responding to one of your posts please link to it and I'll respond. I'm in and out of the house working in the yard and was grinding meat for sausage. I have all kinds of things I'm doing at the same time. I also racked some wine in the last couple of hours so I'm doing some serious multitasking. I sit down at the comp from time to time and go through many posts. I'm sorry if yours slipped through the cracks.
Nobody is avoiding anything if that's what you're implying.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I did.
xtsho
Well-Known Member
Where?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
where I quoted you. I led the horse to water. As for the choice to drink, my responsibility and capacity end there.
xtsho
Well-Known Member
I'm not going back through this thread. I'm not thirsty anyway. Although I might crack a beer here in a few minutes.
I have a sixer of Pelican Double IPA calling my name. 9% alc and 90 IBU. I'd offer you one but the logistics are not doable.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Your indifference is no surprise. Enjoy the beer.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
I strongly oppose most of her positions. I can respect her but can't muster a shred of support for her. She only looks good next to Trump. I'm OK if she loses her seat to a Trumpy Republican. It's just another step toward Republicans becoming irrelevant.
I'd choose Manchin over Cheny. This is not a beauty contest, both are politically ugly. It's a matter of supporting progress for this country. BTW, Manchin and Sinema staying with Democrats despite our loathing them is the only reason Democrats hold the Senate. They vote for progressive issues much more often than even the best Republican.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
xtsho
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printer
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Trump’s declassification claim may offer limited defense
Donald Trump’s claim he declassified the suite of documents seized by authorities after they searched his Florida home may provide only a limited defense for the former president, if the Justice Department decides to pursue what would be a historic case.
Trump, like any U.S. president, would have wide-ranging powers to declassify documents — but not in sweeping fashion and not without igniting a chain of events that would document the request, according to legal experts interviewed by The Hill.
The broad power also likely wouldn’t permit Trump to store tranches of presidential records in his post-presidential home.
Trump has argued the documents removed from his home were “all declassified.” He later elaborated in a statement to Fox News that he had “a standing order” to declassify any documents.
But experts say there should be traces of such a decision.
Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a non-profit law firm specializing in national security law, said a presidential decision to classify material reverberates through an intelligence apparatus that carefully tracks documents and must then recategorize them appropriately.
“When you declassify a document, it’s declassified everywhere,” he said. “The CIA’s copy is declassified, the NSA’s copy of declassified, the National Security Council’s copy of declassified.
“And so when you declassify a document, even with a wave of your hand, you have to say that to someone, so that they mark it or propagate a memo out to people that this document is now declassified,” added McClanahan. “And they would do that if there was literally anyone in the room when he said, ‘I am declassifying this document,’ they would have made a note of that.”
McClanahan noted that no one in Trump’s orbit has yet pointed to anything in writing from Trump.
“An oral order will not suffice unless somebody can prove that it existed,” he said.
thehill.com
And the article goes on for a bit...
Donald Trump’s claim he declassified the suite of documents seized by authorities after they searched his Florida home may provide only a limited defense for the former president, if the Justice Department decides to pursue what would be a historic case.
Trump, like any U.S. president, would have wide-ranging powers to declassify documents — but not in sweeping fashion and not without igniting a chain of events that would document the request, according to legal experts interviewed by The Hill.
The broad power also likely wouldn’t permit Trump to store tranches of presidential records in his post-presidential home.
Trump has argued the documents removed from his home were “all declassified.” He later elaborated in a statement to Fox News that he had “a standing order” to declassify any documents.
But experts say there should be traces of such a decision.
Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a non-profit law firm specializing in national security law, said a presidential decision to classify material reverberates through an intelligence apparatus that carefully tracks documents and must then recategorize them appropriately.
“When you declassify a document, it’s declassified everywhere,” he said. “The CIA’s copy is declassified, the NSA’s copy of declassified, the National Security Council’s copy of declassified.
“And so when you declassify a document, even with a wave of your hand, you have to say that to someone, so that they mark it or propagate a memo out to people that this document is now declassified,” added McClanahan. “And they would do that if there was literally anyone in the room when he said, ‘I am declassifying this document,’ they would have made a note of that.”
McClanahan noted that no one in Trump’s orbit has yet pointed to anything in writing from Trump.
“An oral order will not suffice unless somebody can prove that it existed,” he said.
Trump’s declassification claim may offer limited defense
Donald Trump’s claim he declassified the suite of documents seized by authorities after they searched his Florida home may provide only a limited defense for the former president, if the Justice De…
thehill.com
And the article goes on for a bit...
DIY-HP-LED
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Let's talk about Rudy in Georgia....