Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated

[captainmorgan]

Pedo

 

[captainmorgan]

Funny how the pedo comes into a thread when school children are mentioned, the guy who believes 10 year olds should be able to have sex with old men.

 

[Rob Roy]

 

[captainmorgan]

Weak troll pedo.

 

[HGCC]

imagine caring if other people are vaccinated or not, and imagine basing your whole opinion on another human being based on vaccination status or their opinion on efficacy or transparency. What a sad world we live in. What happened to "my body my choice"? It was my choice to get vaccinated, I couldn't give a rats ass if others don't. It just seems strange to have this bizarre, militant ideological allegiance to or against a vaccine in the first place, and it seems even more bizarre that people have attached it to a political party. Like what has happened? As the vaccine doesn't stop transmission, why would I have any interest in whether someone else wants to risk a more severe infection. I don't slander someone for risking their health smoking, drinking or doing drugs, so why would anyone manifest this strange, vitriol fueled hate because of the vaccine?

I don't think I've ever wondered, or even thought about another persons vaccinations status over the whole pandemic, and have never really spoken to anyone about it, because I simply don't care. I just got the vaccine as I work in a pathology lab and have to have all my vaccines. Is it because I don't attach a political affiliation to my, or others decisions based on the vaccine? I'm generally curious, as I am generally someone who doesn't have the capacity to hate, so seeing so much division and militant political affiliation over something as trivial as a vaccine is blowing my mind now.

What happened to tolerance, inclusivity and equality? I thought that was our main goal?

Have we always done this when it comes to vaccines? Imagine this when the flu vaccine came around. Someone's like "nah, i don't trust it, i'll be fine" or "i have my doubts, check this study out".....both seem like pretty benign statements and all of a sudden you've got a bunch of people calling you a right wing terrorist, claiming your some type of death cultist, wanting you removed from the gene pool....

Like, do you not see what your typing? Is this really about vaccination or lack of vaccination? Or is this really about using vaccination status to assume someone's political affiliation and start throwing childish insults. Because calling people childish names like "death cultist" "fascist" "nazi" and insinuating their removal from the gene pool, over a simple disagreement over the efficacy and transparency of a vaccine seems really extreme to me, like completely insane.

People are ostracizing friends and family over this juvenile pursuit of right or wrong/red or blue, left or right, or jabbed/unjabbed. All under the guise or "covid safety and awareness" "freedom of speech" and "tolerance and equality". Just let me be vaccinated, have all your doubts about the vaccine, ill respect your opinion, and you respect mine.

Just decide whether it's "My body, My choice" or not. Because I'm sick of this hypocrisy. I'd never discriminate against someone solely based on what they do with their body, whether that be sexually, medically, recreationally. We should all be focusing on our similarities, as we all have a lot in common, not our differences. especially over something as trivial as this.

We have always been like this about vaccines

How The 'Pox' Epidemic Changed Vaccination Rules

During the 1898-1904 pox epidemic, public health officials and policemen forced thousands of Americans to be vaccinated against their will. Historian Michael Willrich examines that epidemic's far-reaching implications for individual civil liberties in Pox: An American History.

www.npr.org

I wait for additional signs of shittiness beyond vaccine status before judging someone. It's bizarre that medicine and public health are political topics, but here we are. Personally I'm more appalled at the anti-vax/mask behavior, but everyone has different backgrounds and experiences.

I am still of the firm belief we should all wear masks and engage in petty theft from big box stores.

 

[VincenzioVonHook]

We have always been like this about vaccines

How The 'Pox' Epidemic Changed Vaccination Rules

During the 1898-1904 pox epidemic, public health officials and policemen forced thousands of Americans to be vaccinated against their will. Historian Michael Willrich examines that epidemic's far-reaching implications for individual civil liberties in Pox: An American History.

www.npr.org

I wait for additional signs of shittiness beyond vaccine status before judging someone. It's bizarre that medicine and public health are political topics, but here we are. Personally I'm more appalled at the anti-vax/mask behavior, but everyone has different backgrounds and experiences.

I am still of the firm belief we should all wear masks and engage in petty theft from big box stores.

I'm also coming from an outside perspective too, so I see it all with tainted lenses. We just didn't have anywhere near as much of a political/social divide when it came to the whole mask/vaccine thing here, and the lockdowns were far less severe in duration and effect. Even in the thick of the heaviest lockdown here I could still go down to my local plaza, get a coffee, grab my shopping and have maccas every day. We were encouraged to go for a walk every day, just social distance. Shops were opened. Just had to wear a mask and check in.

We had a few small protests against the mandates here in my state, but they weren't necessarily "anti vax" or "anti mask", they were more "anti police enforcement of lockdown" or "anti government overreach" protests. More about heavy handed police enforcement of public health orders that hadn't actually been passed as laws at the time, and never would be. Literally thousands of people being arrested for drinking a coffee in the park or laying on the beach by themselves and not a single one ended up actually charged, all thrown out in court immediately. Severe waste of police, judicial resources and taxpayer money.

 

[cannabineer]

If anything, wearing a foil hat would make it worse...

If you were really worried about radio waves penetrating your skull (which they do, and you should be), you wouldn't put a parabolic dish around your pineal gland like that. Right smack dab in the focal point, so the rays bouncing off the ground are amplified, lol.

You would make a faraday cage helmet, or suit.

Come on now..

Pfff, we humans evolved in a constant soup of electromagnetics. Radio harming you is a globalist hoax.

I am far, far more worried about the not quite chaotic quantum interference surreptitiously emanating from mysterious sources deep in the oldest, most stable terrains on the planet (we lease large barren tracts in the Laurentian, South African and Australian cratons, southwestern Venezuela, anywhere nonalluvial diamonds are found. These mysterious facilities are buried under miles of ancient schist and official denial.) They make HAARP look like an oxcart.

The effects are tiny, but sustained over three decades now,they reach way down into the very roots of our reality.

Item: an elusive but definite shift in probabilities. A tiny cadre of Europe’s oldest banking families is 332% more active in online wagering, and is winning 51% of every greyhound race. Their bones can be bred as weak but constant resonators. Some success with ostriches too.

Item: the explosive rise of smartphones, each of which has a tiny unmarked (and undisclosed) device, plated in faintly radioactive gold, with its own independent power supply. It appears to contain, among other unidentifiable bits, an odd crystal phase of gadolinium.
Every so often an inappropriately curious flunky working at the Genius Bar just vanishes.

Item: the approach of several previously placid nations to frank fascism tightly correlated with the distribution of artificial sweeteners incorporating elements from the halogen group. As a lab chemist, I was sworn to secrecy on the weirdest shit, and three of my colleagues? poof! no trace. There are things I simply will not discuss. I wanna live.

Prospective item: the completion of the Starlink constellation. Sure, there is a comms package on board. But most of the satellite’s mass is, if you believe the photo that only survives in four screen grabs, of a largish unmarked module plated in something faintly radioactive. I worry that upon its completion, a few very large and plainly non terrestrial objects can safely decloak and start sending us to every Galactic restaurant with two stars or more in the book. They’re having us over for dinner; how cool is that!

So you go ahead and worry about obviously, even negligently faked bullshit kid stuff like vaccine chips and that third mysterious frame on old interlace video signals. I got bigger fish to fortify against, and the price of gamma-europium titanate single crystal is through the mothersomething roof.

Gotta go. Doorbell. I bet it’s the neutron detector I ordered! Follow-up in a few.
wait. Why is that ratty panel van still on my street

 

[captainmorgan]

Just like the religious nut jobs pushing their cults beliefs on everyone else the anti vaccine/maskers think they have the right to inflict their stupidity on others by insisting they can risk other peoples lives by following their moronic beliefs.

 

[schuylaar]

NOTICE: Trolls keep bumping threads with PROPAGANDIST TITLES.

 

[cannabineer]

NOTICE: Trolls keep bumping threads with PROPAGANDIST TITLES.

?current examples

 

[cannabineer]

@schuylaar
serious question.
Currently page 1 has only two fairly weak candidates for “a propagandistic title”, both started by one troll. I am simply not seeing any troll recently bumping established threads. So I am wondering what you meant.

 

[schuylaar]

@schuylaar
serious question.
Currently page 1 has only two fairly weak candidates for “a propagandistic title”, both started by one troll. I am simply not seeing any troll recently bumping established threads. So I am wondering what you meant.

Ask @hanimmal.

Notice: Trolls Keep Bumping Threads With Stupid Propagandist Titles

Seems the Trolls have abandoned trying to keep it together for more than a few posts and have resorted in spamming in threads with propagandist titles. They are going for the exhaustion method it seems to spread their stupid.

www.rollitup.org

We have a thread on it and I was referring to..the stupid propagandist title.

 

[stipernut]

 

[cannabineer]

Ask @hanimmal.

yeah we had a morning of it. I’m getting a distinct and durable “censorship” vibe.

I don’t trust the vibe because a vibe is almost always a subset of sentiment in me. When I try to frame a rational rebuttal, I keep encountering my sentiments. That is a problem. It is a recipe for self-delusion, and once the self is deluded there is no barrier to lying to anyone about anything.

So I’m a bit spooked right now, and am eyeing the limbic invitation to a sort of “holy rage”* with all the awful ambivalence of a Narcotics Anonymous member alone in a room with a kilo of white heroin base.

*that, once I am no longer hot under the collar, I will regret …

 

[schuylaar]

yeah we had a morning of it. I’m getting a distinct and durable “censorship” vibe.

I don’t trust the vibe because a vibe is almost always a subset of sentiment in me. When I try to frame a rational rebuttal, I keep encountering my sentiments. That is a problem. It is a recipe for self-delusion, and once the self is deluded there is no barrier to lying to anyone about anything.

So I’m a bit spooked right now, and am eyeing the limbic invitation to a sort of “holy rage”* with all the awful ambivalence of a Narcotics Anonymous member alone in a room with a kilo of white heroin base.

*that, once I am no longer hot under the collar, I will regret …

I'm sorry I didn't mean to make you feel censored or deflect the response

What do you mean by 'we had a morning of it'?

Have some gummies and rage away- we can handle it..just be mindful of mods; they're banning long-term members without warning or notice..it's up to you to figure out what you did wrong.

 

[cannabineer]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to make you feel censored or deflect the response

What do you mean by 'we had a morning of it'?

Have some gummies and rage away- we can handle it..just be mindful of mods; they're banning long-term members without warning or notice..it's up to you to figure out what you did wrong.

it’s all here in the threads. I was wrestling an emotional response with variable results. He was kind enough to reason with me.

 

[Drop That Sound]

This thread isn't propaganda.

It's a fact that most the people you know who got the c-19 vaccine, were the ones who got sick, spread it, and seem to keep getting it over again.

More people who took the shot died than those that didn't.

The truth is, there is no shot for corona that will do anything to help you. You were straight up lied to, the whole time.

 

[Herb & Suds]

This thread isn't propaganda.

It's a fact that most the people you know who got the c-19 vaccine, were the ones who got sick, spread it, and seem to keep getting it over again.

More people who took the shot died than those that didn't.

The truth is, there is no shot for corona that will do anything to help you. You were straight up lied to, the whole time.

Even if that was remotely true
What is your position?
You guessed right?

 

[cannabineer]

This thread isn't propaganda.

It's a fact that most the people you know who got the c-19 vaccine, were the ones who got sick, spread it, and seem to keep getting it over again.

More people who took the shot died than those that didn't.

The truth is, there is no shot for corona that will do anything to help you. You were straight up lied to, the whole time.

nice try.
actually,

 

[Drop That Sound]

All trollituping aside..

My position is.. I'm on what is claimed to be a plant growing forum, and every time I click on "whats new", the feed is flooded with political posts, and there is no way to filter them out.

I notice (because curiosity gets the best of me) that the only active threads in that entire section are pretty much ran by the same small group of guys who are liberals. Anyone who is a left brain thinking conservative gets cancelled out by the mods, who seem to get off on using their powers here for political gain?. You guys haven't figured out that the reason no one ever responds is because they can't even post again, because this site is pretty far left on that meter you guys always refer too..

Well not really, because the majority of the people on RIU are conservative too, but they are more humble and don't want to get mixed up by responding.

Therefore, its mostly just you guys circle jerking each other all day about how bad the orange man is, and how taxing my kids kids over climate change is good. The sheer amount of electrical energy each one of you guys spend on the forums, projecting your own behaviors, could have actually saved a life (unlike the shots)..