captainmorgan
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More then 20,000 foreigners have joined the Ukrainian armed forces.
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DIY-HP-LED
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Former MI6 director: 'Putin wants to treat Ukraine the same way Hitler planned to do'
26,242 views Jul 24, 2022 "Vladimir Putin doesn't want to be cast as a villain in terms of starving or putting at risk large populations in the developing world."
Putin is "concerned not to unnecessarily antagonise important countries" in the Middle East and Africa that see the supply of Ukrainian grain as vital, says former MI6 operations and intelligence director Nigel Inkster.
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://www.newsweek.com/russia-admits-ukraine-port-strike-u-turn-claims-military-targets-hit-1727427
it looks like they hit a dock next to a cargo ship...very valuable military targets.
so how do you think that conversation went?
"HEY! we just hit a dock in Odessa Harbor!"..."what?"..."grain deal?" fucking seriously comrade? BLYAT we can't do a goddamn thing right. tell them it was the Ukrainians trying to cause a false flag incident." "they have video and satellite tracking data? well, tell them it was a precision strike on military targets...YES! THE FUCKING DOCK HAD A HARPOON MISSILE SYSTEM ON IT!" "JUST FUCKING TELL THEM...what are they going to do, declare war on us, hahaha!".....
it looks like they hit a dock next to a cargo ship...very valuable military targets.
so how do you think that conversation went?
"HEY! we just hit a dock in Odessa Harbor!"..."what?"..."grain deal?" fucking seriously comrade? BLYAT we can't do a goddamn thing right. tell them it was the Ukrainians trying to cause a false flag incident." "they have video and satellite tracking data? well, tell them it was a precision strike on military targets...YES! THE FUCKING DOCK HAD A HARPOON MISSILE SYSTEM ON IT!" "JUST FUCKING TELL THEM...what are they going to do, declare war on us, hahaha!".....
printer
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It is a dual use grain auger, civilian and military grain.
printer
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The Russian authorities confirmed the strike on Odessa and made a promise to the Ukrainians.
ura-news.translate.goog
The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the destruction of the ship and the warehouse of Harpoon missiles as a result of a strike on the port of Odessa
The Russian Defense Ministry said it struck a shipyard in Odessa. The agency claims that as a result, the ship was destroyed in the dock and a warehouse of Harpoon missiles supplied by the United States. This was announced by the department in a daily summary.
“In the seaport of the city of Odessa, on the territory of a shipyard, high-precision sea-based long-range missiles destroyed a Ukrainian warship that was in the dock and a warehouse of Harpoon anti-ship missiles supplied by the United States to the Kiev regime,” reads the daily report of the Ministry of Defense, published in the department ’s Telegram channel .
The Ministry of Defense added that the military also "disabled the production facilities of the enterprise for the repair and modernization of the ship structure of the naval forces of Ukraine."
Yesterday, July 23, the government of Ukraine reported that a missile attack was carried out on the port of Odessa, two missiles hit infrastructure facilities. Later, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said that the Russian military told him that they were not involved in the incident. The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, in turn, said on the morning of July 24 that the Russian army had attacked a military boat in the port of Odessa. The UN condemned the strike on the port and reminded of the need to comply with the agreements on the grain agreement. The port of Odessa is one of three ports from which there will be grain from Ukraine.
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- In the seaport of the city of Odessa, on the territory of a shipyard, high-precision missiles destroyed a docked Ukrainian warship and a warehouse of Harpoon anti-ship missiles, which were supplied by the United States to the Kiev regime. This was told in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation;
- The Russian and Ukrainian people will continue to live together. Russia will certainly help them get rid of the regime, which is absolutely anti-people and anti-historical. This was stated by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during a meeting in Cairo with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi;
Власти РФ подтвердили удар по Одессе и дали обещание украинцам
Главное к вечеру 24 июля
The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the destruction of the ship and the warehouse of Harpoon missiles as a result of a strike on the port of Odessa
The Russian Defense Ministry said it struck a shipyard in Odessa. The agency claims that as a result, the ship was destroyed in the dock and a warehouse of Harpoon missiles supplied by the United States. This was announced by the department in a daily summary.
“In the seaport of the city of Odessa, on the territory of a shipyard, high-precision sea-based long-range missiles destroyed a Ukrainian warship that was in the dock and a warehouse of Harpoon anti-ship missiles supplied by the United States to the Kiev regime,” reads the daily report of the Ministry of Defense, published in the department ’s Telegram channel .
The Ministry of Defense added that the military also "disabled the production facilities of the enterprise for the repair and modernization of the ship structure of the naval forces of Ukraine."
Yesterday, July 23, the government of Ukraine reported that a missile attack was carried out on the port of Odessa, two missiles hit infrastructure facilities. Later, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said that the Russian military told him that they were not involved in the incident. The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, in turn, said on the morning of July 24 that the Russian army had attacked a military boat in the port of Odessa. The UN condemned the strike on the port and reminded of the need to comply with the agreements on the grain agreement. The port of Odessa is one of three ports from which there will be grain from Ukraine.
Минобороны РФ заявило об уничтожении корабля и склада ракет Harpoon в результате удара по порту Одессы
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Roger A. Shrubber
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it really didn't look like a warship or a warehouse in the video...The Russian authorities confirmed the strike on Odessa and made a promise to the Ukrainians.
- In the seaport of the city of Odessa, on the territory of a shipyard, high-precision missiles destroyed a docked Ukrainian warship and a warehouse of Harpoon anti-ship missiles, which were supplied by the United States to the Kiev regime. This was told in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation;
- The Russian and Ukrainian people will continue to live together. Russia will certainly help them get rid of the regime, which is absolutely anti-people and anti-historical. This was stated by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during a meeting in Cairo with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi;
Власти РФ подтвердили удар по Одессе и дали обещание украинцам
Главное к вечеру 24 июля
The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the destruction of the ship and the warehouse of Harpoon missiles as a result of a strike on the port of Odessa
The Russian Defense Ministry said it struck a shipyard in Odessa. The agency claims that as a result, the ship was destroyed in the dock and a warehouse of Harpoon missiles supplied by the United States. This was announced by the department in a daily summary.
“In the seaport of the city of Odessa, on the territory of a shipyard, high-precision sea-based long-range missiles destroyed a Ukrainian warship that was in the dock and a warehouse of Harpoon anti-ship missiles supplied by the United States to the Kiev regime,” reads the daily report of the Ministry of Defense, published in the department ’s Telegram channel .
The Ministry of Defense added that the military also "disabled the production facilities of the enterprise for the repair and modernization of the ship structure of the naval forces of Ukraine."
Yesterday, July 23, the government of Ukraine reported that a missile attack was carried out on the port of Odessa, two missiles hit infrastructure facilities. Later, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said that the Russian military told him that they were not involved in the incident. The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, in turn, said on the morning of July 24 that the Russian army had attacked a military boat in the port of Odessa. The UN condemned the strike on the port and reminded of the need to comply with the agreements on the grain agreement. The port of Odessa is one of three ports from which there will be grain from Ukraine.
Минобороны РФ заявило об уничтожении корабля и склада ракет Harpoon в результате удара по порту Одессы
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DIY-HP-LED
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ANOTHER DISASTER FOR RUSSIA - POSSIBLE 'SIGNIFICANT' SETBACK OVER KEY BRIDGE || 2022
DIY-HP-LED
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Here is a soldier with a foamy, an RC foam plane that costs less than $200USD, I have one that is almost identical. It can be upgraded with an FPV camera and a small image stabilized 4K mapping camera in the belly, a flight control computer+GPS and use a variety of radio receivers. This plane is new, out of the box and has not been modified, no FPV or control antennas sticking out. He has a set of cheap FPV box googles with no external antennas, nothing has been used, including the guy's uniform! Normally you would not wear googles when hand launching a plane, it would be LOS or auto launch mode, if they had a flight control computer. Configured as it is, it would have limited range with the FPV video being the weak link, or it could use GPS waypoints to scan an area. It could also carry 100 or 200 grams of plastic explosives and be used as a suicide drone with limited range and effect.
Looks like donated equipment, once it comes out of their drone workshop and is modified, it might be useful, though I doubt the googles will be, there is better stuff available. Still, in war ya go with what ya got or can get, not what with ya want.
www.bbc.com
Looks like donated equipment, once it comes out of their drone workshop and is modified, it might be useful, though I doubt the googles will be, there is better stuff available. Still, in war ya go with what ya got or can get, not what with ya want.
How are 'kamikaze' drones being used by Russia and Ukraine?
Russia is accused of using Iranian-made drones in repeated attacks on Ukraine's civilian population.
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DIY-HP-LED
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These guys are not kids, I've been surprised at how many older men are fighting this war on the Ukrainian side, perhaps the young fellows are more with the special forces and modern equipment.
More Quiet On The Eastern Front: Russian Shelling Lessens In Ukraine's Donbas Region
27,087 views Jul 25, 2022 As Russia's invasion of Ukraine enters its sixth month, Ukrainian troops fighting in the Donetsk region say they are not experiencing the constant shelling they have seen up to now.
More Quiet On The Eastern Front: Russian Shelling Lessens In Ukraine's Donbas Region
27,087 views Jul 25, 2022 As Russia's invasion of Ukraine enters its sixth month, Ukrainian troops fighting in the Donetsk region say they are not experiencing the constant shelling they have seen up to now.
BudmanTX
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from the vid it really looked like it didn't hit anything of value, looks like they were trying to go after the cylos where grain is stored thoughit really didn't look like a warship or a warehouse in the video...
BudmanTX
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right after they signed that agreement for grain mind you......
BudmanTX
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More BS from Russia.....and the person who has been watching over these has been sanctioned by Russia btw....look at what Pooty is using for weapons she actually says it, while they denial they're not.....smh
BudmanTX
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crying already Lavrov, we already know that russian wanted to decapitate UA governing body......
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Russia says it wants to end Ukraine's `unacceptable regime'
Russia’s top diplomat said Moscow’s overarching goal in Ukraine is to free its people from its “unacceptable regime,” expressing the Kremlin’s war aims in some of the bluntest terms yet as its forces pummel the country with artillery barrages and airstrikes. The remark from Russian Foreign...
printer
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Grain prices shoot back up after Russian missile attack
A Russian missile attack on the Ukrainian port of Odesa drove grain prices back up after they relaxed on news of a U.N.-brokered deal between Moscow and Kyiv struck late last week to move stalled agricultural goods out of the Black Sea.
Wheat future contracts jumped around 4 percent after Saturday’s attack, with Kansas City hard red winter wheat for September opening Monday at $848 per thousand bushels. After news of the Friday deal between Russia and Ukraine, the price had dropped to $816.
Soft red winter wheat jumped nearly 3 percent over the weekend to $781 from a Friday low of $759. Corn futures rose about 2 percent over the weekend to $575 from $564.
The Russian missile attack on Saturday drew immediate condemnation from U.S. officials.
“Just 24 hours after finalizing a deal to allow the resumption of Ukrainian agricultural exports through the Black Sea, Russia breached its commitments by attacking the historic port from which grain and agricultural exports would again be transported under this arrangement,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement on Saturday.
“The Kremlin continues to show disregard for the safety and security of millions of civilians as it perpetuates its assault on Ukraine. Russia is starving Ukraine of its economic vitality and the world of its food supply through the effective blockade of the Black Sea.”
On Friday, White House national security spokesman John Kirby described the Biden administration as both hopeful and “clear-eyed” about the deal to get civilian exports moving out of Black Sea ports.
“If it’s fully implemented and complied with it will have an impact, but it’s just too soon to know,” Kirby said.
Russian officials said the strikes were aimed at military targets and shouldn’t affect the agricultural exports that were the subject of last week’s deal, which was negotiated in Istanbul with diplomatic help from Turkey.
“As for the targets that were hit with precision strikes, they are located in a separate part of the Odesa port, in the so-called military part of the military port, and these targets were a combat boat of the Ukrainian naval forces and an ammunition depot, where anti-ship missiles were recently delivered,” Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov said, speaking in the Republic of Congo, according to Russian state news outlet RIA Novosti.
On Saturday, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Lt.-Gen. Igor Konashenkov said the Russian military had destroyed U.S.-supplied military equipment in the Odesa port.
An “attack launched by high-precision, long-range, sea-based missiles has resulted in the elimination of Ukrainian military ship and a depot of Harpoon anti-ship missiles delivered by U.S.A. to the Kyiv regime in the seaport of Odessa,” he said in a video posted to the Telegram channel of the Russian Defense Ministry.
In an email to The Hill, United Nations officials indicated they were pushing ahead with the implementation of the deal despite the proximity of the conflict, saying “the details are being worked out.”
Central to the implementation will be the work of an Istanbul-based joint coordination center staffed by personnel from Ukraine, Russia, Turkey and the U.N. to make sure that wheat and other commodities from the region can be delivered to world markets.
The center is expected to be up and running by Tuesday and ships loaded with Ukrainian grain “may move within a few days,” deputy U.N. spokesperson Farhan Haq said in a briefing Monday.
Haq added that the U.N. believes the Russian missile attack on Odesa “was not a helpful thing.”
“We want all sides, as the Secretary-General made clear on Saturday, to fully implement what they’ve agreed to,” he said in reference to the U.N.-brokered initiative.
The U.N. emphasized the limited and strictly civilian nature of the export monitoring facility, saying it will “monitor the movement of commercial vessels to ensure compliance with the Initiative; focus on export of bulk commercial grain and related food commodities only; ensure the on-site control and monitoring of cargo from Ukrainian ports; and report on shipments facilitated through the Initiative.”
The U.N. said the center specifically “will not facilitate the export of food from countries other than Ukraine,” nor will it “facilitate exports of containers and non-food items not included under the provisions outlined in the Initiative.”
The de facto blockade of Ukrainian ports by the Russian navy, in addition to defensively deployed naval mines, promise to make the facilitation of commerce through the ports of Odesa, Yuzhny and Chornomorsk a difficult and highly sensitive task.
Agricultural economists say that traders of wheat and grain had been anticipating something akin to the deal between Russia and Ukraine on exports for some time.
“Ten or twelve days ago, cash prices and futures market prices for wheat and corn were actually at or below where they were in late January and early February, before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. That suggests to me that the traders in the market had already anticipated that something like this deal would develop,” Vincent Smith, an economist at Montana State University and a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, said in an interview.
“Instead of there being a fairly substantial — 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 percent impact — on futures prices on the announcement of the deal, the drop in prices for corn and wheat contracts were more modest.”
thehill.com
A Russian missile attack on the Ukrainian port of Odesa drove grain prices back up after they relaxed on news of a U.N.-brokered deal between Moscow and Kyiv struck late last week to move stalled agricultural goods out of the Black Sea.
Wheat future contracts jumped around 4 percent after Saturday’s attack, with Kansas City hard red winter wheat for September opening Monday at $848 per thousand bushels. After news of the Friday deal between Russia and Ukraine, the price had dropped to $816.
Soft red winter wheat jumped nearly 3 percent over the weekend to $781 from a Friday low of $759. Corn futures rose about 2 percent over the weekend to $575 from $564.
The Russian missile attack on Saturday drew immediate condemnation from U.S. officials.
“Just 24 hours after finalizing a deal to allow the resumption of Ukrainian agricultural exports through the Black Sea, Russia breached its commitments by attacking the historic port from which grain and agricultural exports would again be transported under this arrangement,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement on Saturday.
“The Kremlin continues to show disregard for the safety and security of millions of civilians as it perpetuates its assault on Ukraine. Russia is starving Ukraine of its economic vitality and the world of its food supply through the effective blockade of the Black Sea.”
On Friday, White House national security spokesman John Kirby described the Biden administration as both hopeful and “clear-eyed” about the deal to get civilian exports moving out of Black Sea ports.
“If it’s fully implemented and complied with it will have an impact, but it’s just too soon to know,” Kirby said.
Russian officials said the strikes were aimed at military targets and shouldn’t affect the agricultural exports that were the subject of last week’s deal, which was negotiated in Istanbul with diplomatic help from Turkey.
“As for the targets that were hit with precision strikes, they are located in a separate part of the Odesa port, in the so-called military part of the military port, and these targets were a combat boat of the Ukrainian naval forces and an ammunition depot, where anti-ship missiles were recently delivered,” Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov said, speaking in the Republic of Congo, according to Russian state news outlet RIA Novosti.
On Saturday, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Lt.-Gen. Igor Konashenkov said the Russian military had destroyed U.S.-supplied military equipment in the Odesa port.
An “attack launched by high-precision, long-range, sea-based missiles has resulted in the elimination of Ukrainian military ship and a depot of Harpoon anti-ship missiles delivered by U.S.A. to the Kyiv regime in the seaport of Odessa,” he said in a video posted to the Telegram channel of the Russian Defense Ministry.
In an email to The Hill, United Nations officials indicated they were pushing ahead with the implementation of the deal despite the proximity of the conflict, saying “the details are being worked out.”
Central to the implementation will be the work of an Istanbul-based joint coordination center staffed by personnel from Ukraine, Russia, Turkey and the U.N. to make sure that wheat and other commodities from the region can be delivered to world markets.
The center is expected to be up and running by Tuesday and ships loaded with Ukrainian grain “may move within a few days,” deputy U.N. spokesperson Farhan Haq said in a briefing Monday.
Haq added that the U.N. believes the Russian missile attack on Odesa “was not a helpful thing.”
“We want all sides, as the Secretary-General made clear on Saturday, to fully implement what they’ve agreed to,” he said in reference to the U.N.-brokered initiative.
The U.N. emphasized the limited and strictly civilian nature of the export monitoring facility, saying it will “monitor the movement of commercial vessels to ensure compliance with the Initiative; focus on export of bulk commercial grain and related food commodities only; ensure the on-site control and monitoring of cargo from Ukrainian ports; and report on shipments facilitated through the Initiative.”
The U.N. said the center specifically “will not facilitate the export of food from countries other than Ukraine,” nor will it “facilitate exports of containers and non-food items not included under the provisions outlined in the Initiative.”
The de facto blockade of Ukrainian ports by the Russian navy, in addition to defensively deployed naval mines, promise to make the facilitation of commerce through the ports of Odesa, Yuzhny and Chornomorsk a difficult and highly sensitive task.
Agricultural economists say that traders of wheat and grain had been anticipating something akin to the deal between Russia and Ukraine on exports for some time.
“Ten or twelve days ago, cash prices and futures market prices for wheat and corn were actually at or below where they were in late January and early February, before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. That suggests to me that the traders in the market had already anticipated that something like this deal would develop,” Vincent Smith, an economist at Montana State University and a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, said in an interview.
“Instead of there being a fairly substantial — 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 percent impact — on futures prices on the announcement of the deal, the drop in prices for corn and wheat contracts were more modest.”
Grain prices shoot back up after Russian missile attack
A Russian missile attack on the Ukrainian port of Odessa drove grain prices back up after they relaxed on news of a United Nations-brokered deal between Moscow and Kyiv struck late last week to mov…
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DIY-HP-LED
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HIMARS are true gamechangers, says Ukraine’s top spy
U.S.-supplied HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems are proving to be real gamechangers in the war against Russian aggression, the head of Defense Intelligence of Ukraine, Kyrylo Budanov, told U.S. news agency The Washington Post on July 24.
HIMARS are true gamechangers, says Ukraine’s top spy
“We’re now using cutting-edge modern weapon systems, instead of obsolete Soviet-era ones,” said Budanov.
“We’ll make use of long-range munitions (ATACMS missiles for HIMARS; effective range of 300 kilometers), if we get them. Russians are well-aware they are quite done after facing these weapons.”
Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov earlier said that Kyiv needs as many as 50 HIMARS and M270 rocket artillery systems to contain any further Russian offensives, and at least 100 for an effective counteroffensive.
Read also: Russian losses approach 39,000 troops, Ukrainian figures suggest
Ukraine’s Western partners have so far pledged 20 HIMARS in security assistance, with 12 of them already being deployed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Adam Smith, Chair of U.S. House Armed Services Committee, said that the United States are prepared to supply Ukraine with up to 30 HIMARS and M270 pieces.
DIY-HP-LED
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How Himars could force Russia into an embarrassing collapse in Ukraine
Some weeks ago the Russians announced an "operational pause" in the Donbas.
EdaTX
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I have relatives from Ukraine and believe me, there are almost no kids in the army. Everyone who is fighting now is either the older generation who served in the army back in the 80s - 90s or those who have been holding the border since 2014. All the rest, who have at least some experience in the army, serve in the "territorial defense" detachments. They also participate in active hostilities, but to a much lesser extent.
DIY-HP-LED
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I wonder if the Americans will give many more HIMARS to Ukraine and if they do, when will it be enough to be decisive? Other allies are giving them too, so how many, along with reloads would it take to tip the balance enough?
What impact would a major Ukrainian victory have on the the American election?
Ukraine Seeks More 'Game Changer' U.S. Weapons Systems For Counteroffensive Against Russia
32,103 views Jul 26, 2022 Rep. Elissa Slotkin, recently returned from Ukraine, talks with Rachel Maddow about the role of weapons from the U.S. and other NATO countries, like the HIMARS rocket system, in Ukraine's effort to repel Russia's invasion, and how the U.S. makes decisions about which and how many weapons to provide Ukraine.
What impact would a major Ukrainian victory have on the the American election?
Ukraine Seeks More 'Game Changer' U.S. Weapons Systems For Counteroffensive Against Russia
32,103 views Jul 26, 2022 Rep. Elissa Slotkin, recently returned from Ukraine, talks with Rachel Maddow about the role of weapons from the U.S. and other NATO countries, like the HIMARS rocket system, in Ukraine's effort to repel Russia's invasion, and how the U.S. makes decisions about which and how many weapons to provide Ukraine.
EdaTX
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Nobody knows how many HIMARS are needed. I know one thing for sure, if they give shells capable of hitting the Crimean bridge, everything will change.