Wake n Bake, Nothing Better!
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manfredo
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Oh man I remember those big ol' Palmetto bugs in Florida, which is just a nice word for American cockroach. Them suckers are HUGE. And the freaking ants. I remember leaving half a candy bar on my dresser, and an hour later there was a trail of ants coming out of the baseboard and to my candy bar. Couldn't even leave bread out of the refridge or ants would get it....and our landlord had the place exterminated monthly.
RetiredToker76
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I'm a photone fan as well. It's not perfect and I wouldn't trust it's "number" as being accurate to an actual photosynthetic photon-flux density measurement. When I use my iPhone12 sitting on the exact same place in with the light hanging exactly where it was two days before, I can get the same number.
I found that my plants "like" it around 2500ppfd according to photone. I don't think they're actually getting 2500 ppfd, but that's where they start to look like they're getting too much light. The real number is probably around 1500 - 1800, but consistency is more important than accuracy of measurement. When I switched phones the numbers didn't match between the two devices but remained consistent on each device.
For 20 bucks it gives me way to keep the light roughly the same as the plant grows and I adjust the light but the plants are my best "measure" of when they're happy. The number just allows me to adjust intensity vs. distance to dial the heat and humidity a little bit with the light.
while we took her to the beach. She literally threw a fit about putting in the fridge 
(I seriously don't understand this 60's throwback woman.)
We came home and there were ghost ants all over the counters of the kitchen homing in on her burger like it was Candy Mountain. I just looked at her dryly and said, "Next time will you trust me about the pest problems about where I've lived for 15 years. This is going to cost me both time and money trying to defeat them, now that you left them a fucking invitation."
She hasn't been back ... and is NEVER allowed in my kitchen again.
I found that my plants "like" it around 2500ppfd according to photone. I don't think they're actually getting 2500 ppfd, but that's where they start to look like they're getting too much light. The real number is probably around 1500 - 1800, but consistency is more important than accuracy of measurement. When I switched phones the numbers didn't match between the two devices but remained consistent on each device.
For 20 bucks it gives me way to keep the light roughly the same as the plant grows and I adjust the light but the plants are my best "measure" of when they're happy. The number just allows me to adjust intensity vs. distance to dial the heat and humidity a little bit with the light.
Yes to all of this. My Mother-in-Law came down one year and left a Burger KIng burger sitting wrapped on my counter for 6 hours
while we took her to the beach. She literally threw a fit about putting in the fridge (I seriously don't understand this 60's throwback woman.)We came home and there were ghost ants all over the counters of the kitchen homing in on her burger like it was Candy Mountain. I just looked at her dryly and said, "Next time will you trust me about the pest problems about where I've lived for 15 years. This is going to cost me both time and money trying to defeat them, now that you left them a fucking invitation."
She hasn't been back ... and is NEVER allowed in my kitchen again.
raratt
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I have had a problem with them since I pulled out the old kitchen cabinets, no idea why. I bought a pack of ant traps and dispersed them around the kitchen. I seem to have them under control at the moment.I'm a photone fan as well. It's not perfect and I wouldn't trust it's "number" as being accurate to an actual photosynthetic photon-flux density measurement. When I use my iPhone12 sitting on the exact same place in with the light hanging exactly where it was two days before, I can get the same number.
I found that my plants "like" it around 2500ppfd according to photone. I don't think they're actually getting 2500 ppfd, but that's where they start to look like they're getting too much light. The real number is probably around 1500 - 1800, but consistency is more important than accuracy of measurement. When I switched phones the numbers didn't match between the two devices but remained consistent on each device.
For 20 bucks it gives me way to keep the light roughly the same as the plant grows and I adjust the light but the plants are my best "measure" of when they're happy. The number just allows me to adjust intensity vs. distance to dial the heat and humidity a little bit with the light.
Yes to all of this. My Mother-in-Law came down one year and left a Burger KIng burger sitting wrapped on my counter for 6 hours
We came home and there were ghost ants all over the counters of the kitchen homing in her burger like it was Candy Mountain. I just looked at her dryly and said, "Next time will you trust me about the pest problems about where I've lived for 15 years. This is going to cost me both time and money trying to defeat them now that you left them a fucking invitation."
She hasn't been back ... and is NEVER allowed in my kitchen again.
DarkWeb
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RetiredToker76
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Over the last 14 years I've had about 4 major battles with them. One year they decided to nest in one of the kitchen cabinet behind some BHO extraction equipment I quit using. THe last time they had found an entry point in the house in our master bedroom where the 45 year old wood siding had rotted under the 20 year old aluminum siding and created a 2 foot by 2 foot hole to the outside world from the master bedroom. We ended up doing a full remodel of the house to close that off. New windows, siding, gutters, and a paint job, all because of the ant problem.
This is my 1 - 2 punch against the ants. That and a liberal dusting of D.E. + Borax all the way around the house.
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RetiredToker76
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The above is NASTY SHIT btw. Wear PPE, gloves, mask, and don't bring your clothes in the house after spraying it. Definitely don't use the bait gel if you're going to have small children around. Both products contain fertility interrupters and you don't want that shiat anywhere near anyone who has the intent of having children some day. Absolutely do not get anywhere near smokeable or edible plants.
The driver on my flower side is 91°F and the boards are 93°F, the leaf temp is 75°f and my ambient is 79°f with a RH of 52%.
Veg side is about 5° less on all temp measures.
The other thing to remember is, at least the HLG Qb's, don't have any UV light while the HPS does put out some UV. I honestly never ran my HPS without a hood and an inline fan, it would have cooked my little closet. That being said, if I had the hardware to fabricate a "cool tube" type system over these boards I would gladly pull active cooling over the heat sink and driver. I have several designs drawn up, just no way to bend sheet metal or room on the sides to ventilate it. So I've just got an oscillating fan that sits in front of the closet and blows air between the light and the canopy.
The heat is only a portion of the formula. My little 2x3 closet runs much cooler with 330w of led vs 450w of enclosed hood HPS with a 440cfm being yanked over the bulb. (Just downgraded the 440 to a 150cfm AC Infinity fan and love it!!
The driver on my flower side is 91°F and the boards are 93°F, the leaf temp is 75°f and my ambient is 79°f with a RH of 52%.
Veg side is about 5° less on all temp measures.
The other thing to remember is, at least the HLG Qb's, don't have any UV light while the HPS does put out some UV. I honestly never ran my HPS without a hood and an inline fan, it would have cooked my little closet. That being said, if I had the hardware to fabricate a "cool tube" type system over these boards I would gladly pull active cooling over the heat sink and driver. I have several designs drawn up, just no way to bend sheet metal or room on the sides to ventilate it. So I've just got an oscillating fan that sits in front of the closet and blows air between the light and the canopy.
raratt
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I have a purpose built room that is about 6X5X8 feet. I put a window AC through the wall for cooling and I run a return fan at night when it is cool out. My exit fan only kicks on when it gets too hot in there.
manfredo
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I don't know but I have my 1000 watt HPS air cooled hoods vented right into an old chimney and it stays about 80f in the room when lights are on, this time of year, with no AC. Normal temp in the basement is about 70f, so only raisers the temp 10 degrees....and in the winter it's nice!!
Another scorcher here....all 3 AC units jamming on high, and I overslept, so no farmers market or fresh tomatoes for me. Might have to go looking elsewhere!
RetiredToker76
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My deep dark fantasy is to have a room that has independent environmental controls to the rest the house. Preferably a mini-split AC-dehumidifier combination. I have to run a balance between the plant's preferred environment and the wife-ometer setting.
lokie
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My lab is in the basement. I vent through the fireplace.
I use an infinity 8" exhaust fan..
Got my exhaust set like this now.
pic not actual size.
Also built a frame to insert a 14,000 BTU Window Air Conditioner into the fire place.
I'm also running my 8" exhaust out through the same panel.
Not my pics.
Exhaust straight up the chimney. No filter, No circulating heat. Ambient temps stay 68 to 70 year round.
Canopy temps fluctuate 66 to 85 depending on lights on or off and if doors are open or not.
RetiredToker76
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Ah basements, I used to love my semi-finished basement in the midwest. It really fit my insomniac, internet troll personality as a teen.
Two things that are on the required list for house #2, a billiards room and a grow room. It would be preferable if I get to start with an unfinished basement with water supply. Those aren't happening in Florida, I'm pretty sure if you dig deep enough for a basement the state will sink.
Oh yeah, none of your notmypix posted. :-/
Two things that are on the required list for house #2, a billiards room and a grow room. It would be preferable if I get to start with an unfinished basement with water supply. Those aren't happening in Florida, I'm pretty sure if you dig deep enough for a basement the state will sink.
Oh yeah, none of your notmypix posted. :-/
Jeffislovinlife
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Jeffislovinlife
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A comfortable wife makes for a very much happier life
RetiredToker76
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Wife's wearing 2 shirts and a sweater.
I'm in a pair of sleeper shorts and that's it.
This is the dichotomy of my life. She can always put on more clothes but the plants and I are pretty much at peak temp allowable for us to breath, in fact neither the plants nor I would complain about 3-4 degrees F less. I might put on clothes with temps below 77°F/25°C.
I'm in a pair of sleeper shorts and that's it.
This is the dichotomy of my life. She can always put on more clothes but the plants and I are pretty much at peak temp allowable for us to breath, in fact neither the plants nor I would complain about 3-4 degrees F less. I might put on clothes with temps below 77°F/25°C.
Jeffislovinlife
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That is my son and wife so I'm also outvoted lol
Jeffislovinlife
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Some people like it hot!!!!! Okay to be honest I'd settle for lukewarm
raratt
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Stop by, I'll hook you up.