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ShotoMain

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What do we do about the pandemic of spotted lantern flies? An invasive pest from china showed up in 2014 that's currently in 11 states along the east coast. I've found 10 of them in my backyard this year, resting along the main stems of my dream queen leaving the tomatoes/peppers alone. This will reach your state, it's not a matter of if but when. Because it's foreign, there are no natural predators; spiders will get them but they don't exclusively hunt this insect. I don't want to use pesticides. What options are on the table, and if pesticides NEED to be used, what will work? This invasive pest has a kill on sight warning, it sucks sap away from plants, and its honey-dew feces promotes black sooty mold growth. This is a serious concern

 

PioneerValleyOG

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What do we do about the pandemic of spotted lantern flies? An invasive pest from china showed up in 2014 that's currently in 11 states along the east coast. I've found 10 of them in my backyard this year, resting along the main stems of my dream queen leaving the tomatoes/peppers alone. This will reach your state, it's not a matter of if but when. Because it's foreign, there are no natural predators; spiders will get them but they don't exclusively hunt this insect. I don't want to use pesticides. What options are on the table, and if pesticides NEED to be used, what will work? This invasive pest has a kill on sight warning, it sucks sap away from plants, and it's honey-dew feces promotes black sooty mold growth. This is a serious concern

Have you tried yellow sticky pads yet?
 

ShotoMain

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Have you tried yellow sticky pads yet?
I have not, and I don't believe glue traps would be effective since they hop around in their nymph stages. In August they will have their wings, bigger teeth and eat at woodier material (usually trees but our thick cannabis stalks is a feast for them). In addition, they swarm in big numbers. In a local park, I found them everywhere (hundreds)
 

PioneerValleyOG

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I have not, and I don't believe glue traps would be effective since they hop around in their nymph stages. In August they will have their wings, bigger teeth and eat at woodier material (usually trees but our thick cannabis stalks is a feast for them). In addition, they swarm in big numbers everywhere. In a local park, I found them everywhere (hundreds)
Well, the only other thing I might suggest, is Home Defense. I use it to spray the perimeter of my gardens, not in or on or around the plants, just a complete circle around a plot. Stuff works great, and no effects on plants whatsoever. That's all I got til I do some more research.
Question, are lady hgs or mantis natural predators of these fuckers?
 

ShotoMain

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Well, the only other thing I might suggest, is Home Defense. I use it to spray the perimeter of my gardens, not in or on or around the plants, just a complete circle around a plot. Stuff works great, and no effects on plants whatsoever. That's all I got til I do some more research.
Question, are lady hgs or mantis natural predators of these fuckers?
Lady bugs go after smaller insects, once the SLF is in their nymph stage, they're too big. Praying mantis's/Spiders will eat them, but only opportunistically. They don't specifically hunt them, its natural predator is a parasitic wasp indigenous to asia that gets them, which the U.S doesn't have. Spotted Lantern Flys will destroy vineyards, and fruit bearing trees, but more importantly our cannabis
 

PioneerValleyOG

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Lady bugs go after smaller insects, once the SLF is in their nymph stage, they're too big. Praying mantis's/Spiders will eat them, but only opportunistically. They don't specifically hunt them, its natural predator is a parasitic wasp indigenous to asia that gets them, which the U.S doesn't have. Spotted Lantern Flys will destroy vineyards, and fruit bearing trees, but more importantly our cannabis
And has only this one predator, the wasp?
 

PioneerValleyOG

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Lady bugs go after smaller insects, once the SLF is in their nymph stage, they're too big. Praying mantis's/Spiders will eat them, but only opportunistically. They don't specifically hunt them, its natural predator is a parasitic wasp indigenous to asia that gets them, which the U.S doesn't have. Spotted Lantern Flys will destroy vineyards, and fruit bearing trees, but more importantly our cannabis
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ShotoMain

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Good ol need? I've never used it. Vinegar, yes. Have to wait and see. Lantern fly looks a lot like a pearly eyed forest moth from NE. AT first glance
Nice, neem can't be used in flowering which is when they become mature. Is vinegar okay during flowering and what mix do you use? Off the top of my head, since vinegar is acidic, it would provide a media for white powder mildew to grow, whereas baking soda (sodium bicarb) makes the leaves too basic for the wpm to grow. Since we're growing in the North East, mold is a concern

Unfortunately the SLF officially landed in MA, Worcester county last year. Expect to encounter it this season or next. The small nymph looks like a spider since it's black with white dots, it will hop when you swat at it. Immediately kill on sight
 
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PioneerValleyOG

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Nice, neem can't be used in flowering which is when they become mature. Is vinegar okay during flowering and what mix do you use? Off the top of my head, since vinegar is acidic, it would provide a media for white powder mildew to grow, whereas baking soda (sodium bicarb) makes the leaves too basic for the wpm to grow. Since we're growing in the North East, mold is a concern
Yes I'm in NE too, Massachusetts, I have no experience with these critters yet, but I n would begin with a diluted 10 to 1 and increase from there looking for effectiveness. Should not affect buds and will change the chemistry of mold and also battle it, however it is early for mold. I'd really start with sticky traps, nothing to lose but a few $ and they may be attracted to the yellow.
 

ShotoMain

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Yes I'm in NE too, Massachusetts, I have no experience with these critters yet, but I n would begin with a diluted 10 to 1 and increase from there looking for effectiveness. Should not affect buds and will change the chemistry of mold and also battle it, however it is early for mold. I'd really start with sticky traps, nothing to lose but a few $ and they may be attracted to the yellow.
This years dream queen had a touch of wpm on 2 overlapping leaves a week ago, guess this plant is sensitive to it (last years durban poison was more resistant). Thanks i'll keep the mix on hand to directly spray on them. I'm hesitant on glue traps since I need Lady Bugs to sweep the plant for pests, and with the slf's behavior, I don't think it'll be effective. Any ideas we can brainstorm I'll try and share the results, you can expect to encounter them soon
 

PioneerValleyOG

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This years dream queen had a touch of wpm on 2 overlapping leaves a week ago, guess this plant is sensitive to it (last years durban poison was more resistant). Thanks i'll keep the mix on hand to directly spray on them. I'm hesitant on glue traps since I need Lady Bugs to sweep the plant for pests, and with the slf's behavior, I don't think it'll be effective. Any ideas we can brainstorm I'll try and share the results, you can expect to encounter them soon
Ditto. When mold gets crazy you might consider zerotol.
 

DCcan

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I'd go with OxiPhos over ZeroTol, has phosphorous acid as well as hydrogen peroxide.
Phosphorous acid is a systemic application for preventing mold, as well as a contact killer for bacteria and mold.
 

mandocat

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I'd go with OxiPhos over ZeroTol, has phosphorous acid as well as hydrogen peroxide.
Phosphorous acid is a systemic application for preventing mold, as well as a contact killer for bacteria and mold.
You can tank mix OxiPhos and Zerotol, for even more effectiveness, which is what the manufacturer, Biosafe recommends. Been a lifesaver for me!
 

DCcan

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You can tank mix OxiPhos and Zerotol, for even more effectiveness, which is what the manufacturer, Biosafe recommends. Been a lifesaver for me!
I saw that it listed Azadiractin as another tank mix for Oxiphos. The phosphorous acid softens insect shells on contact also, makes it easier to kill.
 
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