BudmanTX
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Nope wrong again let's start with Africa and Syria how's that, squirrel
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DIY-HP-LED
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Russian Military Crosses Into NATO Territory - Is WW3 Coming?
Lucky Luke
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So Ukraine just banned their political opposition & seized all their assets. That doesn't sound very democratic.
Eleven Ukrainian political parties have been suspended because of their links with Russia, according to the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy.
The country’s national security and defence council took the decision to ban the parties from any political activity. Most of the parties affected were small, but one of them, the Opposition Platform for Life, has 44 seats in the 450-seat Ukrainian parliament.
The political move comes as Zelenskiy aims to further assert his influence over the country’s media sphere. On Sunday, the Ukrainian leader signed a decree that aims to unite all national TV channels into one platform, citing the importance of a “unified information policy” under martial law.
www.theguardian.com
Eleven Ukrainian political parties have been suspended because of their links with Russia, according to the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy.
The country’s national security and defence council took the decision to ban the parties from any political activity. Most of the parties affected were small, but one of them, the Opposition Platform for Life, has 44 seats in the 450-seat Ukrainian parliament.
The political move comes as Zelenskiy aims to further assert his influence over the country’s media sphere. On Sunday, the Ukrainian leader signed a decree that aims to unite all national TV channels into one platform, citing the importance of a “unified information policy” under martial law.
Ukraine suspends 11 political parties with links to Russia
Zelenskiy says parties such as Viktor Medvedchuk’s Opposition Platform for Life are ‘aimed at division or collusion’
www.theguardian.com
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Lucky Luke
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US invade Canada? You want discuss the US invading a country that borders it at least twice, a country allied with at least two perhaps more nuclear armed countries? You guys are getting crazier. Might as well discuss Canada pushing against its US borders..
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Lucky Luke
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Of cause we are. we are doing as little as possible to appear to appease America and keep our nice trade deals and less as possible so as to not piss off Russia and the EU and appear to be less of Americas bitch than we are to China. I don't think we would of got involved at all if it wasn't for America- Same old story there..
We had a much publicised body bag come back from Ukraine as well.
Australia has given 20 Bushmaster's (they are pretty cool) and is delivering 70,000 tonnes of coal to power Ukraine's resistance, on top of $65 million in humanitarian assistance for the people of Ukraine, with a focus on protecting women, children and the elderly, including for food, shelter and emergency medical supplies.
Ill also hazard a guess that the coal delivery is also a nice test run to deliver coal to Europe on an ongoing bases. We have heaps of the stuff.
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Lucky Luke
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The political move comes as Zelenskiy aims to further assert his influence over the country’s media sphere. On Sunday, the Ukrainian leader signed a decree that aims to unite all national TV channels into one platform, citing the importance of a “unified information policy” under martial law.
Lucky Luke
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So we have an elected leader disbanding political opposition and controlling the media...
Is it really a good look for democratic and even republics to keep supporting him?
If so at what point do we say he is a dictator and actually voice it?
Is it really a good look for democratic and even republics to keep supporting him?
If so at what point do we say he is a dictator and actually voice it?
DIY-HP-LED
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I posted about it before, liberal democracies in an existential war do those things, America and Britain did, Canada and Australia too. If you were Japanese living in Canada, America or Australia, you were fucked citizen or not. These people were traitors and there would be a large super majority of the population who agree and they can even change the constitution with that much support. These organizations ended up like America first after Pearl harbor, even ethnic Russians in the east turned on Putin when their houses were destroyed and they were drafted as cannon fodder, now they don't want to be sanctioned either.So Ukraine just banned their political opposition & seized all their assets. That doesn't sound very democratic.
Eleven Ukrainian political parties have been suspended because of their links with Russia, according to the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy.
The country’s national security and defence council took the decision to ban the parties from any political activity. Most of the parties affected were small, but one of them, the Opposition Platform for Life, has 44 seats in the 450-seat Ukrainian parliament.
The political move comes as Zelenskiy aims to further assert his influence over the country’s media sphere. On Sunday, the Ukrainian leader signed a decree that aims to unite all national TV channels into one platform, citing the importance of a “unified information policy” under martial law.
Ukraine suspends 11 political parties with links to Russia
Zelenskiy says parties such as Viktor Medvedchuk’s Opposition Platform for Life are ‘aimed at division or collusion’
Lucky Luke
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I'm not aware of Australia or Britain banning political parties or ridding free speech. Obviously America has huge control over its media but id be surprised if that's the same in Canada.
Such a strange thing to hear you- a proponent of Liberal Democracies supporting the creation of a one gov and a one media entity.
Edit: it appears Australia did ban the Communist party for two years.
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Horselover fat
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Being an apologist for a fascist empire is not good look on you or anyone @Lucky Luke
Lucky Luke
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Which empire would you be talking about and in what way am I apologising?
Lucky Luke
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Interesting:
www.aljazeera.com
Russian commodities traders replace Switzerland with Dubai
Ratcheting up of sanctions is promoting a migration of Russian businesses to Dubai.
Horselover fat
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Russia. You seem to have no problem with them invading a sovereign country.
DIY-HP-LED
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The Brits locked up the British fascists including Oswald Mosely, they also hung Lord Haw Haw for treason. America outlawed the German American Bund and other organizations. Liberal democracies are not suicide pacts, in most of them these antisocial characters run afoul of the law anyway and except for America, extremists are not allowed to have guns.
I never advocated single party rule and you are using rhetorical bullshit by implying that I do. If you don't support liberal democracy, what do you support? Your belief in conspiracy theories has distorted your perception of reality, I can see why Julian Assange might be cornholed for life because he also believed such anti American horse shit. Empires are not hard to spot or to define and America does not meet the definition, Russia does though and is engaged in a cruel illegal invasion of another country and liberal democracy for imperial purposes that they stated such publicly. You seem to be as determined to defend Putin, as Trump's useful idiots are at rationalizing away his evil and criminality.
It is a proxy war for America, remember what they did to Iran for fucking with their embassy? Remember how long it went on? Remember that they set Saddam on them and had a titanic WW1 type struggle for years with trench warfare? Vlad fucked with America and helped to install Trump, they will be lucky just their economy and military will be destroyed. Vlad stuck his head out a long way with this invasion of Ukraine and Sammy was waiting to chop the fucking thing off.
DIY-HP-LED
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Meaning of apologist in English
apologist
noun [ C ]
formal
UK
/əˈpɒl.ə.dʒɪst/ US
/əˈpɑː.lə.dʒɪst/
a person who supports a particular belief or political system, especially an unpopular one, and speaks or writes in defence of it:
communism and its apologists
There are few apologists for the old system.
Lucky Luke
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Don't I? You must be new to the thread.
Let me clarify my thoughts for you.
I don't agree with Russia invading Ukraine.
I can understand their reasoning and the people of Ukraine elected Zelenskyy for better relations with Russia. He ran on that campaign.
I don't agree with America getting involved nor Europe. Its just one of the many disputes in a history of disputes in the area and there will always be disputes in the area. Much like Africa. Getting involved with these disputes always means a much longer war with more people killed and bigger economic stresses and refugees than would otherwise be avoided.
Russia is being treated by the international community very different from when America invades a sovereign country.
This war needs to be over ASAP.
I dont agree that an elected official should disband many/all political parties nor control the media.
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Lucky Luke
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You seem to be supporting one atm as Ukraine is not only banning political parties but will only have a state run media- which Zelenski started doing before the war if you recall.
The world knows it is. Which is a good start as we may have years to go.
Lucky Luke
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I think social democracy is very popular it's just that capitalist don't realize the benefits. But yea i write in defence and support of it all the time.
ANC
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Lol yeah when sanctions were against South Africa, nobody was allowed to trade with them or play sports against them, etc. it was a total blockout...
but modern politicians are cool with the situation as long as it doesn't affect their bottom lines too much. These current sanctions are the worst imitation I have ever seen.
but modern politicians are cool with the situation as long as it doesn't affect their bottom lines too much. These current sanctions are the worst imitation I have ever seen.
Horselover fat
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If noone should supply ukraine with weapons Russia would be able to invade Ukraine easily. So saying noone should supply arms is saying russia should be allowed to invade ukraine. The war would not even have started if Russia didn't start it. It would end if Russia stopped waging it.
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