How Many Plants Can I do SEA OF GREEN?

[yoyoyojoe]

I have a space about 3 feet by 3 feet. Want to do sea of green.

I have a 600 W HPS I am using.

I have a separate room for vegging and cloning so that is not going to be a problem.

How long should I veg the plants before I put them under the 600W or about how tall should they be. Flowering time on my DJ Short Blueberry is 8 weeks.

I am trying to harvest every 2 weeks will that be possible. Flowering time on my DJ Short Blueberry is 8 weeks.

How many plants should I have in that space total with 2 gallon square pots. I can fit about 4 across with about 2 inches in between each pot. I was thinking I can do 12 total.

Was thinking about trying to harvest 3 every 2 weeks.

 

[OregonMeds]

Your plans and math don't match reality. 3x3 with a 600w light? Wasteful...

2 gallon pots? For SOG with small plants? Pointless.

Harvest 3 plants every 2 weeks with 12 total? Nah, I'd do more plants and harvest every week instead.

Try 1 gallon pots or less, cram as many as will fit there's no need for space between pots, adjust everything accordingly, veg to about 8-10 inches before flower. You don't even need a gallon, you could use half that and double the number of plants. The limiting factor is not soil you could grow the same size plants with 20 oz soda bottles even, the difference is how often you have to water.


Consider smaller light or more space, 4'x4' would be better with that light. That might not sound like a big difference but it's huge considering you could nearly double the number of plants.

Look at what this guy does with a similar space... http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=88449 Maybe more than you need but it gives you an idea of how an ideal SOG is done compared to what you had planned.

 

[yoyoyojoe]

Should I leave any space between the pots during flowering or should there be right against each other. In that case I know I can fit about 20 gallon pots under 1 light.

 

[OregonMeds]

No space, cram those suckers in there. Tall pots are best for a long tap root if you can find taller square pots then you can also cram more in.

 

[yoyoyojoe]

No space, cram those suckers in there. Tall pots are best for a long tap root if you can find taller square pots then you can also cram more in.

ok lets say I can cram 20 pots in that area. So if U want to harvest every 2 weeks I can do a cycle of 5 pots every two weeks. That should work out well shouldnt it?

Or is it not good to have 4 different grow periods going on. I heard it was only best to have 2 at most, so a harvest every month, any suggetions?

 

[OregonMeds]

Look at the link I gave in my first reply, it has every answer you could ever imagine about what you want to do. You didn't look, or you didn't read.

click his name and choose filter, then you won't see everyone elses bullshit and it'll be much easier to learn.

 

[IVkingXX]

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i was thinking about buying this and giving it a try to do a sog take clones and veg for a week then flower..not use all 42 sites cause it would be to cramped with roots but use 21 and stagger them so it wont overcrowd

 

[OregonMeds]

IVkingXX When you post in someone elses thread about unrelated stuff it's called threadcrapping, when it's answered taking over someones thread it's called hijacking.

Neither will help you learn or grow a thing.

Even if you proposed to do something stupid like pay $200 for a $20 piece of crap it wouldn't be right to tell you that in someone elses thread.

 

[ripz]

i would say thats relevant and might be useful for the original poster. in a rainforest/aero/bubbler sog fill it wit h as many as you can and put them straight on 12/12 before they have even rooted, you'll be amazed at the result you'll get with enough light, they wont crowd eachother out just make sure the res is big enough
as for in soil sog is best done with 10-15cm sq pots as many as you can squeeze in and flower as soon as they are rooted. 12 plants is not a sog
good luck fellas
will try to attatch a pic of my last sog this was 400 plants under 4 or 5 600's got about 0.8g a watt, these pics are from about 5 weeks flower

 

[yoyoyojoe]

i would say thats relevant and might be useful for the original poster. in a rainforest/aero/bubbler sog fill it wit h as many as you can and put them straight on 12/12 before they have even rooted, you'll be amazed at the result you'll get with enough light, they wont crowd eachother out just make sure the res is big enough
as for in soil sog is best done with 10-15cm sq pots as many as you can squeeze in and flower as soon as they are rooted. 12 plants is not a sog
good luck fellas
will try to attatch a pic of my last sog this was 400 plants under 4 or 5 600's got about 0.8g a watt, these pics are from about 5 weeks flower

OK so I should cram as many in as possible. I thought sea of green is when you have them on a cycle to where you can harvest every week or two?

 

[ripz]

thats a perpetual or dutch method sea of green, same thing really just you start them off a batch every two weeks so after 8 weeks you then get a batch finishing every two weeks or one week if you prefer

 

[emmpey]

i have 0.6sq mtr space and use 2 litre coke bottles. i do 24 plants, with a harvest every 4 weeks. i veg from rooted clones for two week and the plants finish as a 2' long spear of buds with a nice cola on top. biggest problem is ventilation (air-flow around the bud) and watering frequency, also the more you cram in the more chance of bud rot. a pain with staggered harvest is managing the different plant heights.

once i get some spare puff put aside i'll just do large plants to cut down on the amount of work perpetual sog requires. something i only recently learned is that if you want max yields you have to work for it.

 

[ripz]

i hear you m8, its hard work, i prefer just doing one big sog usually 8 wk strains are ready in 7 weeks as they are smaller plants

 

[yoyoyojoe]

So how big would you reccomend the pots being in SOG for a quick 2 week veg and then a 8 week harvest, or do you think a 2 week veg is not necessary from rooted clones?

 

[ripz]

10cm square pots if you go 12/12 before rooting 15cm sq pots if your going to let them root first

 

[yoyoyojoe]

10cm square pots if you go 12/12 before rooting 15cm sq pots if your going to let them root first

So are you saying that it is safe to use unrooted cloans in soil.

If so do I put them directly in the soil with the rooting gel on the bottom or should I put them into rockwool first?

 

[ripz]

i would try the jiffy peat pots they're cool just put em in propergator as normal put them on 12/12 first sign of roots coming through put them into they're pots usually about 7 days. fill to max density as depending on your rooting skillz you might lose a couple

 

[GangstaChronic]

thanks for posting this

 

[bloombrews]

So how big would you reccomend the pots being in SOG for a quick 2 week veg and then a 8 week harvest, or do you think a 2 week veg is not necessary from rooted clones?

I was under the assumption that you can NOT clone Auto-Flowering?? You say 2 wks veg + 8 wks flower = 10 weeks total - This must be only an Auto strain?

 

[Antitheist]

I was under the assumption that you can NOT clone Auto-Flowering?? You say 2 wks veg + 8 wks flower = 10 weeks total - This must be only an Auto strain?

Dude... that was a 10 year old thread.

No they weren't talking autos.