Plant folliar spray, all natural growth enhancer

rkymtnman said:
interesting article. some info a bit over my head.

so do you think HA would be fine in veg and maybe stretch and then stop for the rest of bloom? or would use during veg affect it negatively throughout the grow til harvest?
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I've used it as a foliar, an amendment in soil, and as an addition to nutrient solution used for both coco and soil. I also used fulvic acid in the same way. I used it on all the plants I had growing at the time so unfortunately I never observed a side by side comparison. I don't recall any significant differences in plants I grew prior to using it, while using it, or after I stopped using it.

I don't use it anymore other than what's in the compost and EWC I make that I add to soil.


GrassBurner said:
Looks like they were applying a lot of humic acid, and they were growing in coco. There is a thread about this article.
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Yes there is. That's probably where I got the link from. I tried to search for it but I used the title of the article which didn't show up probably because it was only in the link preview. But it's about 15 posts down in the Advanced section.

Humic Acid Reduces THC???

just doing some reading and came across this article https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2019.00736/full also The influence of the nutritional supplements on mineral levels also varied throughout the plant (Figure 5). Not surprisingly, P treatment increased P levels in the fan and...
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rkymtnman said:
i think i'll drop the HA but keep the kelp on the grow i've got going now before i flip.
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I'm not making any recommendation about it's use. But in my experience it was just something I was adding that wasn't doing anything that I could notice. It definitely doesn't live up to any marketing claims, double growth, etc... And then there's that study showing it may be detrimental to certain aspects of the plant. I don't want increased growth at the expense of cannabinoid levels. But that's just one study. More research is needed regarding cannabis and how the plant is affected by different inputs.
 
I'm confused about what Ful-Power is :lol: Their website says "Ful-Power is a high quality fulvic acid product"..... but the bottle says Humic Acid at the bottom. I mean I'm high, but am I that high?
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I've used it on plants before, but not this regularly. But Ful-Power may be completely different than the humic acid they used in the study. I didn't notice any crazy growth increase, I mainly use it to help with nutrient uptake. Keeping these plants fed in a sip organically can be challenging. Especially since my soil container is so small. I read this about fulvic acid, which is why I wanted to use it
"Fulvic acid can also help to increase the number of beneficial bacteria and fungi in the soil. These organisms help to break down organic matter, which makes nutrients more available to plants. They also help to improve soil structure and increase the amount of water that the soil can hold."
Hopefully it doesn't decrease the thc, that would be a bummer. I have 2 PHK's in flower, and I've grown this strain once before. Nothing scientific, but I would think I would notice the thc dropping 30% or more. First plant was some great smoke, rung your bell real quick :bigjoint: I'll check back in 4 or 5 weeks when they're finished and let yall know if I notice a huge difference.
 
FWIW Kelp also has been shown to help improve your plant's ability to fight off disease (improves their SAR), most studies i've read involve grape vines, but depending on kelp/algae species it's been shown to be quite effective. That mixed with some Silica & Fulvics and you're off to the races
 
f.r said:
All fulvic acids are technically Humic acids. Just fulkvic acids need to be a certain nana particle size afaik
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This sums it up some what.

Fulvic acids are those organic materials that are soluble in water at all pH values. Humic acids are those materials that are insoluble at acidic pH values (pH < 2) but are soluble at higher pH values. Humin is the fraction of natural organic materials that is insoluble in water at all pH values.
 
Sofa King Smoooth said:
Might be worth while to check the heavy metals content and such with that product.


I had used it with other nectar products but when I looked it up and saw the amount of arsenic ppm...
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That's another reason I don't use any additive products on my plants. Just base nutrients. The labels don't list the amount of heavy metals in the products. Fortunately most states have fertilizer databases where you can find that information. With the amount of products some people are using one can only imagine that many would be shocked if they realized how much arsenic, lead, etc... they were putting on their plants.
 
xtsho said:
That's another reason I don't use any additive products on my plants. Just base nutrients. The labels don't list the amount of heavy metals in the products. Fortunately most states have fertilizer databases where you can find that information. With the amount of products some people are using one can only imagine that many would be shocked if they realized how much arsenic, lead, etc... they were putting on their plants.
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Even stuff like kelp meal contains lots of arsenic.
 
I was looking around Dr Earths website the other day, ran across this "Soil Detox". Sounds like it will bind with heavy metals and make them unable to be taken up by plants? It's pricey, but I guess if your gonna be using your soil for a while it might be worth it? Not sure how long it works, for instance if you keep using ammendments with heavy metals, I would imagine it can only lock up so many.

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rkymtnman said:
interesting article. some info a bit over my head.

so do you think HA would be fine in veg and maybe stretch and then stop for the rest of bloom? or would use during veg affect it negatively throughout the grow til harvest?
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This is actually what I've been doing since I read that. I love my Mr. Fulvic, it's the best stuff ever, but I stop using it at about 3 weeks into flower. My buds have always looked good when I use it all the way through, but I don't want to do something that lowers my THC-although that's just a single study.
 
PadawanWarrior said:
Even stuff like kelp meal contains lots of arsenic.
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Very true, this is one reason I started experimenting with microalgae as a replacement for macroalgae. Spirulina has all the auxins and cytokinins of kelp, but with a high amino acid content too-it's much easier to overdose than kelp, but it's an incredible clean replacement option-given you buy a brand that's clean of course. You can use it in a foliar with fulvic during Veg and watch any lime green plants green up fast!
 
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