DEA letter on Seeds

[Friendly_Grower]

Still cannot sell them until the STATES get on the same page. Although the FEDS say 'no problem' even states where adult use is legal - they consider seeds the same as selling buds and you have to go through the same state regulation and licensing - crazy lawyer crazy country.

I understand selling Cannabis seeds in Illinois is legal. Now do they mean just certified Hemp seeds?
Germinating them ( for some ) is illegal.
Medical can have up to flowering plants in Illinois.
Now when it comes to States vs Federal Government is it right to say that the Federal Government they has some authority on interstate commerce?
In State then is where the freedom is or is not.

I wish I had a solid answer on these things.

 

[Rob Roy]

You're not educating, you’re just bitching. What are you personally doing to “abolish it” or “eradicate it”

How much of your own money have you spent toward this life long goal?

I tore a do not remove tag off the bottom of a mattress once. I'm not fucking around!

 

[Johiem]

So can I sell and ship in the USA Cannabis seeds with the USPS?

I don't care who is in charge the only charge I care about is not getting arrested.

Yes. Generally as long as you're not sending ounces and it's sealed properly(can't smell it), they don't give a damn. That's just another box/ envelope and they (the carrier) don't have time to care what's in the parcel. Hit me up directly, there are ways, just don't nonchalantly tape seeds to a piece of paper or in a card. No question, they'll get crushed.
Well not sure on the selling side but I've shipped seeds, at this point, across the world. Most recently was the Nederlands and Australia. From Oklahoma.

 

[Friendly_Grower]

Yes. Generally as long as you're not sending ounces and it's sealed properly(can't smell it), they don't give a damn. That's just another box/ envelope and they (the carrier) don't have time to care what's in the parcel. Hit me up directly, there are ways, just don't nonchalantly tape seeds to a piece of paper or in a card. No question, they'll get crushed.
Well not sure on the selling side but I've shipped seeds, at this point, across the world. Most recently was the Nederlands and Australia. From Oklahoma.

Now that's a great reply!

I have this idea for SeedMaintainers.com and hopefully for others as well.
I believe too many good strains have faded away when they are not the current popular strain.
There must be folks who keep genetics for years like myself.

 

[PavlavsCat]

Newbie question. So how would the postal service or federal agencies know if seeds sent through mail would be hemp or cannabis seeds since they both are pretty much dead on look the same? the only thing I could think that would tip them off would be the number of seeds in the package. I bought some hemp seeds from amazon which had thousands of seeds and I even got a few of them to pop. If only I could find someone to sell a sack of cannabis seeds. LOL

 

[Johiem]

Newbie question. So how would the postal service or federal agencies know if seeds sent through mail would be hemp or cannabis seeds since they both are pretty much dead on look the same? the only thing I could think that would tip them off would be the number of seeds in the package. I bought some hemp seeds from amazon which had thousands of seeds and I even got a few of them to pop. If only I could find someone to sell a sack of cannabis seeds. LOL

Check out the 2018 Farm Bill. Ship all the seeds you want. Cannabis seeds contain less than 0.03% thc and are therefore legal to ship. They ship cbd flower(not that it looks any different than thc flower) and unless you are shipping improperly sealed or sizeable quantities (an ounce is sizeable and potentially seizeable), they generally don't give a damn. It's revenue, just don't get stupid.

 

[Johiem]

Hell, keep it under an ounce, generally non rigid, and under 5mm thick you can send it with a stamp, just know that if they're not protected they WILL get crushed. No maybe.

 

[TimBar]

Our LEGAL State declares Seeds as part of the plant and you need to be registered to sell cannibis ...even to sell seeds

 

[ANC]

Does it refer to seeds that themselves have less than .03% or seeds that will produce plants of less than that?

 

[Rob Roy]

Our LEGAL State declares Seeds as part of the plant and you need to be registered to sell cannibis ...even to sell seeds

The problem with "legality" of cannabis in most places it doesn't affirm your rights, it shifts your rights into a revokable privilege granted or denied by the State.

"Registered" = "give us money and agree we own you, then maybe we will let you sell some seeds".
What they really mean, is if you don't give us money, we will hurt you. That's what thugs do.

 

[Johiem]

I don't believe cannabis should be monetized for any part of the plant. Join a forum that allows gifting and trading, never buy a seed again. I've got Bodhi, Ethos, and BOG gear thru trades and gifts. Just not here on RIU.

And it's the thc content of whatever is shipped that is below. 03% to stay "legal".

 

[Nope_49595933949]

Does it refer to seeds that themselves have less than .03% or seeds that will produce plants of less than that?

The seeds themselves is my understanding

 

[Rob Roy]

I don't believe cannabis should be monetized for any part of the plant. Join a forum that allows gifting and trading, never buy a seed again. I've got Bodhi, Ethos, and BOG gear thru trades and gifts. Just not here on RIU.

And it's the thc content of whatever is shipped that is below. 03% to stay "legal".

If people who transact in seeds or plant matter are involved on a consenting basis, it's none of my business if they give them away or they make an agreement to trade or sell them. That's THEIR business. I don't own their seeds, they do.

The thing that creates and maintains "fairness" is all parties are involved on a mutual and consensual basis.

For instance, THIS forum, is free to set rules where we don't make trades, I'm cool with that. We should be free to join another forum or start our own forum, where trading is allowed if that's our wish. WE don't own or administer this forum, it belongs to somebody else.

Everybody gets what they want and nobody is treading on other people.
That's why the DEA is doing it wrong, they think they own you. Douche bags and thugs do that stuff. No thanks.