getwrecked
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i would get another light for all those plants
Lowryder #2 + Diesel Ryder HPS 600 watt grow project (THE BEGINNING)
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heftamga
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yeah you're right, i will have them transferred in a bigger room, there are 3 more 400 watt HPS waiting
, but i have some mixed strains there, they should be finnished in a few more weeks or so.
and the room is finally free for automation.
T813308004
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Yeah that's a good idea to get some more light, not a big deal just as they grow and need it. They're looking real good but it's gonna be expensive gettin the nutes and everything for them but I'm assuming this is commercial and u will make it up. Just keep your mouth shut and cover ALL traces and you will be fine. but you already know this
Yeah some of those will be good mothers 4 damn super good seeds...in a good week or 2
Ak47 auto x Lowryder#2 and some Dieselryder and some OriginalTonyJejoLowryder#2seedsswishatwista
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Yea thats a nice ass grow so far hefta. I'm getting some ak47 autos in about a week. I was just going to give them as much room as possible for as much bud as possible cause i cant clone, but i really like your seed idea. But im kind of confused on a couple things. Does the mother and father both have to be auto's for you to have auto seeds? Cause i only bought fem ak's so i'd have to make another order to get some males. Or is it possible to mix an auto with a regular seed?
heftamga
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socom3riot
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are u sure about that....because if thats true, how do they make all those autoflowering strains, one had to be a non autoflowering plant at one time.they both (dude & lady) have to be autoflower plants to produce autoflower seeds
I think ur wrong about that one.
Know what Im sayin?
willwork4weed
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Idk but i thought only one had to be auto which would be the lowryder and the other strains such as ak47, lemon skunk, and the other srains LR is x with were just regular seeds. Correct me if im wrong.
socom3riot
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nah I think ur right.. because how else would they start a new autoflowering strain. It would be impossible.
One HAS to have been non-autoflowering at one time.
heftamga
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Ok dude, i don't know how they did it in the first time. My friend has grown these and he sais that you got to take one autoflower male and one autoflower female to produce autoflower seeds, but you can have luck and make a new autoflower strain. Maybee i don't know, i'm a noob at this. Here is an article from Jointdoctors i just read
What we do know at present is that the Joint Doctor has back crossed over 9 generations the original Lowryder in order to bring us the present stable version. As for the parentage both Williams Wonder and NL #2 are rarely mentioned strains on todays numerous web forums. Williams Wonder dates back to the 80s when it was first introduced by the Super Sativa Seed Club gaining a reputation in Europe as a good indica hybrid for crossing. Strangely enough the SSSC wrote in their literature that (in Europe) Williams Wonder cannot be flowered outdoors without first being induced indoors. Odd parentage one would have thought for a plant that auto-flowers immediately after germination!! Perhaps there is method to the Joint Doctors madness! Northern Lights #2 or Oasis as it is referred to more commonly ( Dutch Passions NL#2) on the scene, is known for its thirsty growing patterns and once again its an indica ; so it doesnt seem as if super sativa genetics are the order of the day here. The Ruderalis used is believed to have been a Mexican variety. Certainly the genetics are there with this dwarf. Whether these genes choose to show through is really down to the skill of the breeder, but 9 successive generations of stabilization has brought this strain to heel.
The official Lowyder Grow Guide- written by the Jointdoctor
Preferred growing methods
Indoors, Lowryder performs very well in soil mix (pots or beds) or in soil-less systems, where it can be cultivated from seed to bud in two months 18 hours of light per day is recommended all the way through. Switching light cycles down to 12 hours may diminish yields and shorten the already-short life cycle slightly. Because Lowryders life cycle is so brief, cloning becomes impracticable, so only plants from seed are grown. By default, Lowryder is a great choice for sea-of-green.
Because flowering plants and seedlings can be maintained in the same room, Lowryder presents new possibilities for the small to medium home grower, including staggering your indoor harvest. A true continuous harvest system may be achieved by planting new plants periodically to replace the ones that have been harvested. This ensures that a grow room is always full and always producing fresh bud, and one never has too much work at once. Click here to learn more about the Joint Doctors 1-2-3 continuous harvest method.
For best results, place jiffy pellet or plant directly into 1-2 gal.pots. Alternatively, start in 4-inch peat pots, then place rootbound females into a plant bed after sexing (at approx. 17-20 days) this may result in smaller plants than the first method. Grown under a 12 to 24 hour/daylight cycle from start to finish. I recommend 18 hours per day; this can be decreased to 16 after the first month with no loss of yield.
Outdoors: sow directly into soil after soaking, in 2 gal. pots or plant beds. New stands of Lowryder can be planted up until late summer, to ensure a continuous harvest outdoors. Avoid transplanting if you can, but do so if plants become rootbound. Rogue (remove) males at three weeks.
Growth Factors
Lowryder is extremely versatile in that it can be cultivated in virtually any climate or grow environment. In fact, it has pushed the envelope of growing, enabling early harvests in unlikely places like Finland, the North West Territories, and other northern, short-season, or high altitude areas. It is also well-adapted to backyard gardens, windowsills and patios where plants can be easily concealed because of their tiny size.
Nothing will mature earlier or faster than Lowryder! When other varieties have barely begun flowering, Lowryder outdoor growers are kicking up their feet and already enjoying their fresh harvests.
Characteristics
Lowryder virtually does away with the vegetative growth stage: it passes almost immediately from the seedling stage to the flowering period. To our knowledge, Lowryder has the shortest known life cycle and height in the cannabis species. Male plants may be identified as such after approx. 17-20 days, while females show themselves a couple days later. Plants will even flower under a continuous light regime.
Lowryder females usually grow no taller than 16-20 inches. 12-16 inches is typical. Light intensity, pot size, and proper pH all play an important role in determining the size of plants at maturity the better the conditions, the bigger the yield. Plants produce one main cola, although when they receive adequate light, lower nodes branch out profusely.
Yield and height are dependent on obvious growth factors. For example, plants kept in small peat cups on a windowsill may yield as little as 1 g. and grow no taller than 6 inches, with no branching whatsoever; while a plant in a 4-gallon container under high-intensity lighting and good cultivation methods, can turn into a profusely branched, two-foot wide 45-gram bud monster.
Fertilizer: During the first two weeks of growth, Lowryder should be weekly light feedings of a grow type nutrient solution, with micronutrients. When plants pass into full flower, they should be started on a bloom regime for weeks 4 through 6. Mycorise-type biological amendments (root stimulators) seem to increase growth significantly.
Average flowering time Indoors: 40-45 days (after a 15-20 day seedling stage) Outdoors: ripens approx. 60 days after seed is sown. Note: 100% of plants display the auto-flowering genotype.
AVERAGE HEIGHT 12 inches. Minimum: 5 inches, maximum 16 inches (very light-dependent, with slight phenotype variations).
YIELD Depending on light and other factors, Lowryder yields up to 45 g one report even claims 96 g for one exceptional plant under hydroponics. Extremely light-dependent in terms of yield. Without adequate conditions, plants may stay extremely small, almost comically so but still produce a decent smoke.
Buds are compactand close-quartered, slightly irregular and variable, with high bud/leaf ratio. Thick pistils, with orange coloration, and medium-sized, individual calyxes. Tends to be top-heavy indoors. Typically, budding sites start very close to the ground.
High is uplifting, surprisingly strong. Well-rounded. Best suited for outdoor activities. Smoke is smooth with pleasant, earthy undertones. Smell is not overpowering. Unique flavor, with echoes of NL and Williams Wonder in the bouquet.
JointDoctor on nutes:
I get alot of requests for more info on nutrient needs for Lowryder. This is a hard question to answer as it depends how much money you want to shell out for nutrient products.
I get Advanced Nutrient products (many say the best) at a discount and I have adapted their formula for my own use. Advanced Nutrients provides a complete program for an 8-week grow and has a guide for different growing mediums.
For the first two weeks, I use what they recommend for seedlings.
Then I use the Micro 2+ Light Feeding program for the rest of their life cycle. I usually skip week 3 and 5 to bring it down to a 6 week program which I begin as soon as LRs are sexed.
I know it sounds complicated. Obviously all this is not needed.
As a rule of thumb, treat Lowryders like seedlings for the first 2-3 weeks, then switch them onto a light bloom program. So, you feed them a seedling/transplanting formula the first 2 weeks, then switch to a bloom fertilizer with something like a 5-10-5 or 1-2-1 ratio of N-P-K.
socom3riot
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I dnt feel like reading all that lol
But, I wasnt saying you were wrong or anything. It just common sense that to make a new lowryder strain, obviously the other wasnt a lowryder before.
But, I wasnt saying you were wrong or anything. It just common sense that to make a new lowryder strain, obviously the other wasnt a lowryder before.
heftamga
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if i knew i would probably create some of my own autoflower strains right now, but if you find out how they did it, please let me know, maybee then we can create everything from A - Z autoflower?
swishatwista
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Damn thanks for that info from JD, i was wondering about certain things in the autoflower area. I'm still wondering about the light needed for them. Do they need veg light until they show sex and then a hps or bud light for the remainder? or will a veg light be good for them? if anybody has any experience with them that'd be great. And as far as making your own autoflowering with one none auto, keep in mind how much time it takes for the professions to make a stable plant, but there's always tryin
heftamga
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flowering lights are the best for lowryder ask my pall TONYJEJO, he has done it before https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/82316-big-mean-lowryder-2-week5.html
https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/74452-lowryder-number-2-a.html
wackymack
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im bout to roll up a lr2 fatty, there great smoke,i got this time 2oz dry from one girl,i might need to place another order and just breed them together so i dont have to buy all the time.
autos are great if done right
this girl im smoking is like god,best smoke yet and ever imo that i ever puffed.
autos are great if done right
this girl im smoking is like god,best smoke yet and ever imo that i ever puffed.
nice start...
ive seen someone take clippings from the 3-3.5 week mark and was able to take small clones from a LR2 plant...
the "mother" continued right on with the flowering process and the clippings (he only took one each from 5 different plants) all rooted and continued growing and flowering with the average yield being about 1/3 of an undisturbed LR2
as i said...niiiiiiice....but with 90 plants...gonna be a little bit of a hassle to pic all those males out...and if you get a 50:50 male to female ratio...ur 90s cut to 45...45 plants under 600W is gonna max you out around a little under 14g per plant (ive seen LRs get up to 40g/plant but average around 30g/plant)...if you get an amazing crop and get the 1g/1W...try either upping your Wattage or cutting down on the number of plants...
also...20 feminized LR2 seeds can run a little above $200 and will up your yield per plant to about 30g/plant...
also..new studies have show that LRs respond to a 24/0 cycle without reaching a point of diminishing returns
my $0.02...good job and good luck
ive seen someone take clippings from the 3-3.5 week mark and was able to take small clones from a LR2 plant...
the "mother" continued right on with the flowering process and the clippings (he only took one each from 5 different plants) all rooted and continued growing and flowering with the average yield being about 1/3 of an undisturbed LR2
as i said...niiiiiiice....but with 90 plants...gonna be a little bit of a hassle to pic all those males out...and if you get a 50:50 male to female ratio...ur 90s cut to 45...45 plants under 600W is gonna max you out around a little under 14g per plant (ive seen LRs get up to 40g/plant but average around 30g/plant)...if you get an amazing crop and get the 1g/1W...try either upping your Wattage or cutting down on the number of plants...
also...20 feminized LR2 seeds can run a little above $200 and will up your yield per plant to about 30g/plant...
also..new studies have show that LRs respond to a 24/0 cycle without reaching a point of diminishing returns
my $0.02...good job and good luck
swishatwista
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when i plant the LR's, should i give them the same amount of light as my other flowering(already vegged) ladies. I want them to grow as much as possible before they flower, so would too much light hinder their vertical growth or will they prefer it?
willwork4weed
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Im currently doing some LR2 and i've used 20/4 the whole time I read that if u put autoflowering plants into 12/12 it hurts the yield and shortens the already very short life cycle. This is only LR im not speaking for all the other auto strains I havent had the pleasure to grow........ yet.