Roger A. Shrubber
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i actually read up on them a little, their really hedonists/social darwinist/naturalists... relatively benign compared to christians and muslims...
A Holy Bible Re-Write is Past-Due
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blueberrymilkshake
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Surprised we're not doing Satan stuff right now.
Roger A. Shrubber
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who says we aren't?
blueberrymilkshake
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Sharpen your ritual daggers, boys. We're goin' dancin'.who says we aren't?
Roger A. Shrubber
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Bagginski
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I can’t roll w/ Satanists for the same reason I can’t roll w/ Christianists: shared bogus origin story.
Taoism, Shinto, other *emergent spiritualities*/“natural religions” (as opposed to *revealed religions*, which are mostly branded control structures) are different because they grow from experience of life and the world as it is - “faith” has little or nothing to do with them, & vice-versa. They don’t have ‘prophets’ or ‘inerrant’ texts, and are typically not scary (for one example) - though *people* can be scared by anything…they’re much more ‘the ways of our people’ than most (revealed) monotheisms, which tend to be, like I said, much more control-/domination-oriented and depend HEAVILY on faith - which is belief without reason and obedience without doubt.
I myself have no problem with the concept of reincarnation: in my experience, the ‘soul’ or ‘spirit’ or ‘life essence’ definitely manifests separate from the material body, but I’m not interested in convincing others that I’m “right” about it.
Ultimately they’re stories about how things, life, people, and the world work - and, ultimately some stories are simply better than others: if it’s not helping you be a better, more conscious, more balanced person/member of society, try a different story. If one fills you with fear, anger, anxiety, the NEED to enforce it on others, thenIMO a better story is required.
Sorry, this is kinda my field and I can keep going once I start, so I’ll just stop here.
Taoism, Shinto, other *emergent spiritualities*/“natural religions” (as opposed to *revealed religions*, which are mostly branded control structures) are different because they grow from experience of life and the world as it is - “faith” has little or nothing to do with them, & vice-versa. They don’t have ‘prophets’ or ‘inerrant’ texts, and are typically not scary (for one example) - though *people* can be scared by anything…they’re much more ‘the ways of our people’ than most (revealed) monotheisms, which tend to be, like I said, much more control-/domination-oriented and depend HEAVILY on faith - which is belief without reason and obedience without doubt.
I myself have no problem with the concept of reincarnation: in my experience, the ‘soul’ or ‘spirit’ or ‘life essence’ definitely manifests separate from the material body, but I’m not interested in convincing others that I’m “right” about it.
Ultimately they’re stories about how things, life, people, and the world work - and, ultimately some stories are simply better than others: if it’s not helping you be a better, more conscious, more balanced person/member of society, try a different story. If one fills you with fear, anger, anxiety, the NEED to enforce it on others, thenIMO a better story is required.
Sorry, this is kinda my field and I can keep going once I start, so I’ll just stop here.
mudballs
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To me the bible is like college. In college you take a course, buy a couple books and learn something. Then you have 3 more years, 39 more classes, and many more books.
The bible is but one book in your life's college. I dont like anyone so closed minded as to proclaim a single book is all you need.
The bible is but one book in your life's college. I dont like anyone so closed minded as to proclaim a single book is all you need.
MAGpie81
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True Christ-ians are hard to find.
Many of those who call themselves “Christian” are not living/promoting the spirit and philosophy of Jesus (Hay-soos).
i’m not religious, but I do enjoy the Gnostic teachings of Christ.
And any so-called Christian who values money and comfort over philanthropy and heart-to-heart interactions with less-fortunate people, is not truly a Christ-ian.
Blessed be.
hail Buddha, Christ, Satan
Milky Weed
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You wanna watch it all fall apartEmpties (Kenosis) himself (Phili. 2:7-
Philo: Who is The Heir To Divine Things
"XLI ...but in real fact for the whole world which was created by divine wisdom may be consecrated and dedicated, being made a burnt offering of early in the morning and also in the evening. For such a life as this becomes the world, namely, continually and without ceasing to be giving thanks to its Father and Creator, so as to stop short of nothing but evaporating and reducing itself into its original element, in order to show that it stores up and conceals nothing, but dedicates itself wholly as a pious offering to God who created it."
Born of a woman/under the Law (Gal. 4:4b), Wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1:24b)
Philo: ON FLIGHT AND FINDING
"XX ...For we say that the high priest (Jos. 20:1-6) is not a man, but is the Word of God, who has not only no participation in intentional errors, but none even in those which are involuntary. For Moses says that he cannot be defiled neither in respect of his father, that is, the mind, nor his mother, that is, the external sense; "He shall not go where there is a dead body; he shall not defile himself even for his father or mother." (Lev. 21:11) because, I imagine, he has received imperishable and wholly pure parents, God being his father, who is also the father of all things, and Wisdom being his mother, by means of whom the universe arrived at creation (Prov. 3:19-20, 8:22-31); and also because he is anointed with oil, by which I mean that the principal part of him is illuminated with a light like the beams of the sun, so as to be thought worthy to be clothed with garments. And the most ancient Word of the living God is clothed with the word (Law) as with a garment, for it has put on earth, and water, and air, and fire, and the things which proceed from those elements. ...Nor will he “rend his clothes;” (Lev. 21:10) for the Word of the living God being the bond of every thing, as has been said before, holds all things together, and binds all the parts, and prevents them from being loosened or separated."
Philo: A Treatise Concerning The World
"II ...But the eternal law of the everlasting God is the strong and lasting support of the universe. This law being extended from the centre of the world to its furthest extremities, and again back from its extremities to the centre, moves on in the unwearied irresistible course of nature, uniting and binding together all the parts of the universe. For the Father who established it made it to be the indissoluble bond of the universe. Therefore we are naturally led to conclude that the whole earth will not be dissolved by water, which its bosoms contain; nor again will fire be extinguished by the air, nor again will the air be burnt up and consumed by fire, since the divine law has placed itself as a boundary to keep all these elements distinct from one another."
Every time I walk I watch
I look, I notice, I observe
I read the signs
And the signs are pointing in the wrong direction
The signs are not naming the streets
Or leading you to the highways
The signs are naming names
Tombstones to mark the death of children not even born
And I don't mean abortion I mean what is to come
The signs are telling me to turn back around
The signs are telling me to research my past
The signs are telling me to learn from my mistakes
The signs are asking me questions
Do you wanna watch it all fall apart?
Do you have any control?
Is there anything that you can do?
Time is not a nice person
I know because the sign said it
Time can be generous but ultimately time is indifferent
Time does not give two damns or a fuck
So what will you do?
What will we do?
So I'm in the middle of the street talkin' to the signs
And people are lookin' at me pointing and laughing
Like, "This mothafucker's crazy!"
But do they not see the signs?
Do you not see the signs?
If there is one thing in this world
That you can depend on
That you can bet your last dollar on
It's the ignorance of the American people
But still I have faith
But still I read the signs
They are indeed there
Some of us are lost
And will not find our way
No matter what the signs say
Some of us do not see the signs because
We are too busy shopping
Some of us do not see the signs because
We can't help but stop and look at the accidents and stare
We are in a daze
We are amazed by the world's displays
Some of us do not see the signs because
We are giving spare change to the homeless
We are getting gas
We are volunteering for duty
And we are watching television
We are driving around in circles on spinners
And we are working eight to six
We are on our way to the club
We are high, we are drunk, and we are sober
And we do not see the signs
We are listening to a moron babble
We are listening to tongues that lie
We give them an ear
We give them a hand
We give them both eyes
So we cannot see the signs
Slow, there are children playing in the streets
And they cannot read the signs
They are only children
Stop
Stop!
I fear there is no U-turn
And that this road dead-ends
Because we cannot read the signs
Do you not see the signs?
We must read the signs
And we must turn around
We must turn around
We gotta turn this shit around
And we gotta read the signs
We must read the signs...
We must read the signs...
We must read the signs...
We gotta read the signs...
We gotta turn this shit around...
We must turn this shit around...
We gotta turn this shit around...
We gotta read the signs...
Roger A. Shrubber
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fucking way too long...being concise is a virtue.
if this is a song, it sucks
PopAndSonGrows
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Yeah but so many people literally need to be driven to their destination. So many people don't read the signs, and what's baffling about that part is so many people feel they shouldn't have to read the signs either. At least that's how i feel so many people act, and I'm referring mostly to those that follow "the good word".
I love that analogy.
PopAndSonGrows
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Your response matches your profile pic more than anything on this whole website
mudballs
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Oh i agree, it's easier to not try or to do evil. It's very difficult to bring good into the world.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i went to youtube and found the song...i hate it. that isn't a song, it's some guy reading his emo poetry to bad jazz...i thought that was the domain of 15 year old girls that wear a lot of black?
Roger A. Shrubber
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no, it isn't...if someone treats you like shit, let it roll off your back and don't pass it along to the next person. it isn't the chick at the drive up window at hardee's fault that someone else treated you like shit. if someone cuts you off in traffic, ignore it, just back off a little and let them go on their way. if you respond, they win. don't let them win, because you and everyone else around you loses then.
all it takes is a little conscious thought and determination to not spread the hate
PopAndSonGrows
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I dunno, man. At the end of the day, the Bible and all such "doctrines", codices or whatever, are all written by Man. Most if not all of them have been so watered down through the ages, they probably no longer reflect their original intentions nor do they apply to a much more modern world.
I respect everyone's beliefs for their own purposes but I do not condone nor necessarily respect the "peddling" or "recruitment" of such beliefs. If someone wants to believe they're going to (insert divine place) and not just become N P K for the Earth, that's cool. Believe that. Just don't try to sell people on it.
I respect everyone's beliefs for their own purposes but I do not condone nor necessarily respect the "peddling" or "recruitment" of such beliefs. If someone wants to believe they're going to (insert divine place) and not just become N P K for the Earth, that's cool. Believe that. Just don't try to sell people on it.
Milky Weed
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That’s the problem, life is not concise. Its far too vast for it to be.
Roger A. Shrubber
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and yet, some people try to tell us they have it figured out, and many believe them.....
mudballs
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Shut up, stay away from me...ur one of those dipshits that just keeps typing in the hopes you reach a correct answer. The more you know, the less you say...i guess you haven't gotten to the book with that lesson.