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DIY-HP-LED
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We aren't watching and have been helping for awhile, once the military saw what was going down and how good the Ukrainians were doing and how piss poor the Russians were, the trickle became a flood. Life is gonna be Hell for the Russians soon, now moral and motivation counts the most. Modern shoulder launched weapons negate much of the Russian combat power and make it an infantry fight. Helicopters are only used over friendly territory, tactical air support is off table and tanks with out dismounted troops to protect them are sitting ducks. Summer is coming and that is partisan season already the ground has thawed and keeping tanks on the roads. The Russians can't make a move day or night without NATO and the Ukrainians knowing it and setting up ambushes.
captainmorgan
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I don't need your pep talks, I know the Ukrainians are fierce fighters and will not give up but that doesn't change the fact that without outside direct intervention the cities will be destroyed and it will turn into a guerilla war with countless dead. Russia will have a hard time occupying the country after they destroy it but without direct intervention they will destroy it.
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injinji
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I'm forced to watch their F1 coverage. Just judging from that, I'm sure the news is real click baity.
DIY-HP-LED
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It ain't hard to tell how this is turning out, I'm not sure if the Russians can take the western part of the country and if they don't consolidate their lines and cut off Kyiv soon, they may never do it. What has been a trickle of arms, is now a flood and other support is flowing in. It's their fight Captain, we all know the rules of proxy wars, we've fought enough of them and backing these people to the hilt is underway. The fight for liberal democracy is happening there and they've got Vlad by the balls, the courage and determination of the Ukrainians made that possible. No pep talks just an assessment of what is happening and is about to happen. I'm trying to stay focused on the fight, the human tragedy is sickening and I'm seeing plenty of that too.
captainmorgan
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Your non stop flood of rah rah posts of mostly BS just drowns out everything else that is posted by others, you don't have to respond to every fucking post in every fucking thread with pointless cheer leading, give it a fucking rest once in a while.
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Putin, the emperor with no clothes | CNN
Douglas London writes that Russian President Vladimir Putin placed the world on the precipice of the unthinkable with an unjustified and unwinnable war in Ukraine, and explores how the Russian President might be viewing the situation.
cannabineer
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I read most of his posts. They are sometimes quite wrong in retrospect. However I like that he puts what he really thinks out there, mistakes as well as successes. That shows a certain grit which leads me to this gentler assessment.
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I have been skipping over the posts because they are not based in reality.
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Italian officials seize $156M in yachts, villas from Russian oligarchs
Over $150 million dollars worth of villas and yachts from Russian oligarchs have been seized by Italian officials in an effort to target those with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Italian Foreign Minister Luigi Di Maio said on Friday that the officials would start seizing Russian oligarch’s properties, The Associated Press reported.
“We must be able to stop Putin’s attack, bringing him to the table, and he won’t go with niceties,” the Italian foreign minister said to Italian state media, according to the news wire.
The oligarchs targeted included billionaires Alisher Usmanov, Gennady Timchenko Alexei Mordashov.
Italian news outlet LaPresse reported that Usmanov’s villa in Sardinia had been seized, according to the AP. The “Lady M” yacht had been taken from Mordashov while officials took Timchenko’s superyacht “Lena.”
The development comes as the international community has sought to isolate Russia economically by sanctioning Putin and other Russian officials, closing stores in Russia and halting business with the country.
A bipartisan group of U.S. lawmakers also have signaled support for a ban on oil and energy imports from Russia, acknowledging that the action could increase prices at the pump.
“We are going to see price increases,” Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said on Wednesday. “Nobody wants to see that. And this is going to hurt. But we all need to recognize Europe is in the midst of a war with Russia now. Innocent people are dying, children are dying. We have not been in as volatile as a situation as anytime in my life. And so we are looking right now from a very short window.”
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Over $150 million dollars worth of villas and yachts from Russian oligarchs have been seized by Italian officials in an effort to target those with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Italian Foreign Minister Luigi Di Maio said on Friday that the officials would start seizing Russian oligarch’s properties, The Associated Press reported.
“We must be able to stop Putin’s attack, bringing him to the table, and he won’t go with niceties,” the Italian foreign minister said to Italian state media, according to the news wire.
The oligarchs targeted included billionaires Alisher Usmanov, Gennady Timchenko Alexei Mordashov.
Italian news outlet LaPresse reported that Usmanov’s villa in Sardinia had been seized, according to the AP. The “Lady M” yacht had been taken from Mordashov while officials took Timchenko’s superyacht “Lena.”
The development comes as the international community has sought to isolate Russia economically by sanctioning Putin and other Russian officials, closing stores in Russia and halting business with the country.
A bipartisan group of U.S. lawmakers also have signaled support for a ban on oil and energy imports from Russia, acknowledging that the action could increase prices at the pump.
“We are going to see price increases,” Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said on Wednesday. “Nobody wants to see that. And this is going to hurt. But we all need to recognize Europe is in the midst of a war with Russia now. Innocent people are dying, children are dying. We have not been in as volatile as a situation as anytime in my life. And so we are looking right now from a very short window.”
Italian officials seize $156M in yachts, villas from Russian oligarchs
Over $150 million dollars worth of villas and yachts from Russian oligarchs have been seized by Italian officials in an effort to target those with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin am…
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DIY-HP-LED
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Opinion based on current events, I sometimes try to humanize things and insert some humor. Much of the current military assessment is based on recent news reports and expert opinion, bearing in mind the retired generals are on the team too. A look at the map after 10 days of war reveals a lot about the present situation and the out look for the future. What do you disagree with?
This is a classic proxy war?
That western Poland and other bordering nations will become a vast camp supporting Ukrainian military operations?
Air Ukraine will be flying supplies and arms in at a rapidly increasing rate?
The effect of stingers and modern anti tank weapons in stopping the Russian attacks?
The many Military Blunders the Russians are making?
The fact that Belarus has been propped up by Russian troops for months and is ripe for revolution?
The CIA won't be going nuts over this golden opportunity?
The assessment that the Ukrainians are sacrificing their cities for a greater purpose? (they have little choice).
That Vlad should not have cut off the borders with the west first and focused on that?
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Putin warns Ukraine might lose statehood 'if they continue doing what they are doing'
“The current leadership needs to understand that if they continue doing what they are doing, they risk the future of Ukrainian statehood,” Putin said in Moscow, according to the newspaper. “If that happens, they will have to be blamed for that.”
During his meeting he also likened sanctions imposed by Western countries toward Russia as “akin to a declaration of war,” the Times reported, demonstrating an escalation in rhetoric by Russia amid its invasion of Ukraine.
Those remarks were rebuked by some U.S. lawmakers.
“Weaponizing migration & attacks on nuke plants are akin to a declaration of war too,” Senate Intelligence Vice Chairman Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) tweeted on Saturday. “The problem is NATO would quickly annihilate #Russia’s conventional forces & Putin would then use chemical,biological & non-strategic nukes to freeze the conflict.”
Ukraine has been independent for more than 30 years following the collapse of the Soviet Union,
Russia’s invasion of the sovereign nation has been widely condemned by the international community, and Ukraine has called to be included in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) military alliance. Russia has demanded that Ukraine not be allowed into NATO.
Earlier this week, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky signed a European Union membership application as the former Soviet Union country seeks to join the bloc.
“Our goal is to be together with all Europeans and, most importantly, to be on an equal footing,” the Ukrainian president said during a video address, The New York Times reported. “I’m sure it’s fair. I’m sure it’s possible.”
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“The current leadership needs to understand that if they continue doing what they are doing, they risk the future of Ukrainian statehood,” Putin said in Moscow, according to the newspaper. “If that happens, they will have to be blamed for that.”
During his meeting he also likened sanctions imposed by Western countries toward Russia as “akin to a declaration of war,” the Times reported, demonstrating an escalation in rhetoric by Russia amid its invasion of Ukraine.
Those remarks were rebuked by some U.S. lawmakers.
“Weaponizing migration & attacks on nuke plants are akin to a declaration of war too,” Senate Intelligence Vice Chairman Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) tweeted on Saturday. “The problem is NATO would quickly annihilate #Russia’s conventional forces & Putin would then use chemical,biological & non-strategic nukes to freeze the conflict.”
Ukraine has been independent for more than 30 years following the collapse of the Soviet Union,
Russia’s invasion of the sovereign nation has been widely condemned by the international community, and Ukraine has called to be included in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) military alliance. Russia has demanded that Ukraine not be allowed into NATO.
Earlier this week, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky signed a European Union membership application as the former Soviet Union country seeks to join the bloc.
“Our goal is to be together with all Europeans and, most importantly, to be on an equal footing,” the Ukrainian president said during a video address, The New York Times reported. “I’m sure it’s fair. I’m sure it’s possible.”
Putin warns Ukraine might lose statehood
Russian President Vladimir Putin in a meeting on Saturday warned that Ukraine might lose its statehood “if they continue doing what they are doing,” The New York Times reported.“The current leaders…
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Roger A. Shrubber
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you know as well as i do that the only reason NATO hasn't retaliated yet is that putin is sitting on the largest stockpile of nukes in the world, and no one can say whether or not he's crazy enough to start using them, or what will provoke him into using them. that may be a possibilities he is hoping for, the provocation to drop a few small nukes, they probably have neutron units, reclaim the land in 10 or 15 years..
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DIY-HP-LED
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I try not to be a prophet of doom.
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