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DIY-HP-LED

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Look out for the lights! The home front might do some sacrificing in this war.
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Biden Given Russia Cyberattack Options, Including Internet, Transportation Interruptions

NBC News’ Ken Dilanian reports on President Biden being presented with options to carry out massive cyberattacks designed to disrupt Russia’s ability to sustain its military operations in Ukraine.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Weak eh? We will see about that, there was a reason Putin didn't want Joe as POTUS and this is it. Let's see how it will work out for foxnews and the republicans.
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‘Putin chose this war,’ Biden says about Ukraine attack

US President Biden said Russian President Vladimir Putin bears full responsibility for attacking Ukraine and said Russia will face the consequences because of it.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Take some deep breaths, calm down and go back to 'neer's post. This time, sound out all the words and try to piece together their meaning. What he said was not how you took it just now.

Crack is soooo 1980's. Nowadays its meth.
For old-schoolers like me, recrystallized coke base.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Fair enough and what is wrong with that. Workers get screwed by the capitalist system and deserve to be made shareholders in the firms they work for. The workers of the world will one day rest back control of the means of supply my comrade.
holy shit comrade, are you attempting to channel the spirit of Lenin? and fucking failing miserably? go the fuck home with that communist shit, it didn't work for russia, it didn't work for china, it's never worked for anyone, and it ain't gonna fucking work for you either...fuckin noam chomsky...you are so fucking adorable, i just want a plushie of you to laugh at
 

printer

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And do what with it? After sanctions are put in place against China,
What sanctions against China? Until we rebuild a whole new supply chain in the west, from refineries to finished products we are reliant on china for all the stuff we buy. Did you not learn from the N-95 mask shortage. China will transfer Russian oil offshore just as North Korea is doing. If they get a good price point they do not let little things like sanctions on countries stop them from getting what they want in resources. Don't forget, any UN resolution that is to spank a bad actor is generally vetoed by either or both Russia and China.
 

Fogdog

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An update on sanctions and how Biden's administration is planning to roll out new ones.

Five major Russian banks with holdings in the US are sanctioned. Something like a hundred billions dollars in assets are frozen. (I think)
Kleptocrats around Putin. Their foreign held assets are frozen and further financial transactions with them are banned. This includes assets held by members of their families.
Financing debt and financial transactions with 13 critical Russian enterprises is cut off.
Foreign held assets held by executives of those enterprises will be frozen and further transactions with them are banned

Restrictions on Russian military end users (whatever that means) are implemented to impair Russian military capabilities
Export restrictions of technology are implemented to affect both Russian military capability and development the of Russian technology sector
About half of all high tech exports to Russia will be cut off



Sanctions were carved out to avoid disrupting energy supply from Russia
Personal sanctions against Putin are not on the current list.
Other sanctions are ready to be implemented.
These actions depend on Putin's actions going forward and the economist who gave the update explained what they were.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
What sanctions against China? Until we rebuild a whole new supply chain in the west, from refineries to finished products we are reliant on china for all the stuff we buy. Did you not learn from the N-95 mask shortage. China will transfer Russian oil offshore just as North Korea is doing. If they get a good price point they do not let little things like sanctions on countries stop them from getting what they want in resources. Don't forget, any UN resolution that is to spank a bad actor is generally vetoed by either or both Russia and China.
We can cut a deal with China, this represents opportunities to them and we should give them energy alternatives. China has the world by the nuts and has been growing with the help of the west at the maximum rate, they don't wanna screw up a good thing.
 

printer

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Conductor with close ties to Putin out of Vienna Philharmonic US tour
Russian conductor Valery Gergiev, who has close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin, will no longer lead the Vienna Philharmonic in the orchestra’s U.S. tour, The Associated Press reported amid Moscow's invasion of Ukraine.

The tour, which will consist of five concerts across the country, is set to begin Friday at Carnegie Hall in New York.

“This change was made due to recent world events,” Carnegie Hall spokeswoman Synneve Carlino said of Gergiev’s release from the tour, according to the AP.

Vienna Philharmonic spokesman Ron Boling said that the orchestra refused to reveal whether the release was initiated by the Philharmonic, Carnegie Hall or Gergiev himself.

Gergiev, music director of the Mariinsky Theatre located in St. Petersburg, Russia, has regularly voiced support for Putin, who ordered an invasion of Ukraine to begin Thursday.

Gergiev, 68, was awarded with a Hero of Labor of the Russian Federation prize after the honor was reinstated by Putin in 2013.

Gergiev's parting with the tour follows a letter from Teatro alla Scala, a theater in Milan, that asked Gergiev to release a statement in favor of peace in Ukraine before he was allowed to conduct as planned in the city.

“We are asking him to take a clear position against this invasion, and in the case in which he doesn’t do it, we are constrained to renounce the collaboration,” said Milan Mayor Giuseppe Sala, according to the AP. “It is clear that the culture can go on other levels, but in front of such a situation we need to act

Gergiev is scheduled to conduct Tchaikovsky’s “The Queen of Spades” in Milan March 5.

Denis Matsuev, a Russian pianist for the Vienna Philharmonic, will not perform in his scheduled position Friday at Carnegie Hall. Matsuev said he supported Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014.

Gergiev is chief conductor of the Munich Philharmonic in Germany in addition to his work directing the White Nights Festival in St. Petersburg.

Do this for every person with close ties to the elite in Russia. Hey, trump said he is close friends of Putin. Maybe cut him off until he gets his buddy to behave?
 

Fogdog

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What sanctions against China? Until we rebuild a whole new supply chain in the west, from refineries to finished products we are reliant on china for all the stuff we buy. Did you not learn from the N-95 mask shortage. China will transfer Russian oil offshore just as North Korea is doing. If they get a good price point they do not let little things like sanctions on countries stop them from getting what they want in resources. Don't forget, any UN resolution that is to spank a bad actor is generally vetoed by either or both Russia and China.
If you check out the post above, you'll see they are ready to do more. Biden's team has been preparing to act for the past three months. As with Iran, when other countries act to erode the effect of sanctions against Russia, the US will take action. For example, Iran is "allowed" to sell a certain amount of oil and some of it is designated for China. China is probably getting around some of these sanctions but they aren't blatantly doing so. Absolutely, China is playing a shell game with tankers to import more oil from Iran but the flow is determined not by China but the willingness of the US to stop it.
You are correct in saying I'm stupid and don't understand the world including how important Chinese exports are to the US. Because I'm feeble minded, I depend on the Biden administration to take appropriate actions.

Regarding sanctions already in place. Those were clumsily rolled out by Trump and Biden made some changes but kept trade sanctions against China in place due to their history of unfair trade practices. The precedent is already set. The Biden administration says they intend to do as much harm to Russian military, economic and technology development as is appropriate. That's what they say. The press briefing posted above starts at the time sanctions are discussed.
 

printer

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We can cut a deal with China, this represents opportunities to them and we should give them energy alternatives. China has the world by the nuts and has been growing with the help of the west at the maximum rate, they don't wanna screw up a good thing.
Not sure if we have the capacity to replace Russia's exports for a long time. If China was our friend then maybe. Russia will just cut the price some more.
 
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