Extreme Defoliation...

[twentyeight.threefive]

Lol, send me.your meter, ill give a EC reading. .5 is the US scale.

.7 is europe.


My meter reads microsemesn and ppms..

Lol, at yalls manufactured outrage

I have multiple meters and can tell the difference between ppm and EC unlike you.

Let's get to the bottom of this!

What was the reading of your slabs? And please label your response with ppm or EC please.

 

[Wattzzup]

You would think a “commercial” grower would know how to calculate EC.

 

[calvin.m16]

No reason for that high of EC.
Lots of studies to prove this done on basil, which is often considered a "high EC" crop.

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Managing Electrical Conductivity (EC) For Hydroponic Basil Production

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(PDF) Effects of nutritive solution electrical conductivity and plant density on growth, yield and quality of sweet basil grown in gullies by subirrigation

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I concur, I rock with a 1.6-1.8 EC veg and 2.0-2.2 EC bloom. IDK why some of these fertilizer companies suggest 3 EC like Athena it's just weird. I mean hopefully the commercial growers keep it up cause their weed is not good. lol

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I have multiple meters and can tell the difference between ppm and EC unlike you.

Let's get to the bottom of this!

What was the reading of your slabs? And please label your response with ppm or EC please.

lol

2610 microsemens is about 2.7.2.8E.C, at 1300 PPMs

 

[PJ Diaz]

How did you determine is was light in K, Fe, Ca, and high in N?

I don't think Sammy has them, but you can buy individual ionic probes:

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

No reason for that high of EC.
Lots of studies to prove this done on basil, which is often considered a "high EC" crop.

View attachment 5089155

Managing Electrical Conductivity (EC) For Hydroponic Basil Production

Does nutrient solution EC make a difference in the growth of hydroponic basil under different daily light integrals? Find out what Iowa State University research says.

www.greenhousegrower.com

(PDF) Effects of nutritive solution electrical conductivity and plant density on growth, yield and quality of sweet basil grown in gullies by subirrigation

PDF | Abstract: The increasing demand for basil in the last decade has arisen from consumer tendency towards high nourishing produce. Soilless growing... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

show be a fruiting plants results ill be more impressd

lettuse is leaf not bud

and yes i know about the depreciating terps and yields and wieght due to Higher feeds

this is the week these plants get fed the most

and my entire program starts out at 600ppm for clones and by the time they make it into 4in grodan cubes they are eating 1200 ppm a day with top offs at the end of theday as teh last feeding.

the idea is not to overfeed but to feed a set volume of nutrients by wight over a week then increase that volume, actually fertigation or amount of water doesn't change the volume load of nutrients by wieght for the week as we top off tanks with RO

 

[PJ Diaz]

I concur, I rock with a 1.6-1.8 EC veg and 2.0-2.2 EC bloom. IDK why some of these fertilizer companies suggest 3 EC like Athena it's just weird. I mean hopefully the commercial growers keep it up cause their weed is not good. lol

I run coco, and feed at 1.3-1.5 EC.

 

[PJ Diaz]

show be a fruiting plants results ill be more impressd

lettuse is leaf not bud

and yes i know about the depreciating terps and yields and wieght due to Higher feeds

this is the week these plants get fed the most

and my entire program starts out at 600ppm for clones and by the time they make it into 4in grodan cubes they are eating 1200 ppm a day with top offs at the end of theday as teh last feeding.

the idea is not to overfeed but to feed a set volume of nutrients by wight over a week then increase that volume, actually fertigation or amount of water doesn't change the volume load of nutrients by wieght for the week as we top off tanks with RO

They are probably eating that much, because you are not feeding them often enough. Your EC is bobbing up and down, when it should be as consistent as possible. Clearly whatever your doing is causing an issue with your leaves, so the plant will be forced to redirect energy to either repair or destroy those leaves, which is causing them to be a "sink" instead of a "source". No wonder you see benefits with defloiation, your leaves are damaged anyway, so you might as well remove them.

Seems like you think you got it all figured out and won't take any advice, so I will stop giving any.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I don't think Sammy has them, but you can buy individual ionic probes:

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Thats cool, we only have this..
Amd well my bluelabs but they are at home

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

lol

2610 microsemens is about 2.7.2.8E.C, at 1300 PPMs

Yes 1300 ppm at 0.5 scale is exactly 2.6 EC, not "about 2.7.2.8E.C" 2610 µS/cm is 2.61 EC.

fridays before the teas it was 1300 at a .5 rate.

This weeks rates are around 1800 so a little low on ec but thats why the pk spike.today

Your current "rates" are 3.6 EC. You are frying your plants. You gave ppms values and want to talk about EC.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

They are probably eating that much, because you are not feeding them often enough. Your EC is bobbing up and down, when it should be as consistent as possible. Clearly whatever your doing is causing an issue with your leaves, so the plant will be forced to redirect energy to either repair or destroy those leaves, which is causing them to be a "sink" instead of a "source". No wonder you see benefits with defloiation, your leaves are damaged anyway, so you might as well remove them.

Seems like you think you got it all figured out and won't take any advice, so I will stop giving any.

This is true, if i could hand feed 5-6 time a day i would, only a short peroid of time now before automation...

Lol, i cant work with equipememt and tools i dont have...

Lol... cant create infrastructure where it doesnt exist.


Got to make lemomade

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Thats copl, we only have this..
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I'd look sad too if my plant were at 5.5 pH 2.68 EC and freezing.

 

[Wattzzup]

All that money and gadgets and they still look like shit.

Say what you want about having 2 plants I spend 20 minutes a day tops. You’re spending 84 hours a week. So

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I'd look sad too if my plant were at 5.5 pH 2.68 EC and freezing.

I work 7 days a week. Im tired you fool.

Yall flexing that toxic shit real hard today...

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

All that money and gadgets and they still look like shit.

Say what you want about having 2 plants I spend 20 minutes a day tops. You’re spending 84 hours a week. So

Its my job, ill let the licensee know we need to switch to 2 plants for my sanity. Good advice.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I'd look sad too if my plant were at 5.5 pH 2.68 EC and freezing.

68 degrees is freezing now, lol.

Thays a good one 2865

 

[Wattzzup]

Its my job, ill let the licensee know we need to switch to 2 plants for my sanity. Good advice.

You need to switch something. That’s garbage

 

[bk78]

if i could hand feed 5-6 time a day i would

Any reason you can’t



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, thats why im.here 12 hrs a day 7 days a week.

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[Samwell Seed Well]

You need to switch something. That’s garbage

Lol, when you insult my.grow and plants do you get hard? I do

 

[Wattzzup]

68 degrees is freezing now, lol.

Thays a good one 2865

Go do some research and maybe your plants wouldn’t look so bad