Convoy? ..Convoy!

DIY-HP-LED

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Yeah, it was a rough week. But I respect the restraint Canada's government had throughout.

Fire hoses have a sordid history when used without restraint.

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OK give the cops super soakers, being wet in sub zero weather makes people cold and they go home, give em buckets of water if ya want! In any case it ended without nasty pictures, yet, they have yet to tackle Ottawa, best done late at night after cordoning off the area. They need to bust the ring leaders and not disperse them though, they will just reform somewhere else.
 

Budley Doright

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I know the history of fire hoses in the United States. I didn't mean it literally. But they should take steps to breakup protests when they are having a direct effect on the public and transit. If they want to go protest somewhere that's fine. Let them hang out in a field for as long as they want. The news cameras will find them. But when they start disrupting everyone elses live then they should be removed. If it takes a little force then so be it.
No they should use fire hoses on these fuckers. Give them ample warning and keep the pressure low lol. But ya wet clothes should send them home. My daughters job site has been shut since the beginning in Ottawa, it’s effecting the people that just want to get on with their lives and wear a fucking mask and follow the laws. So ya bring on the water and cut giant holes in the bouncy tents :o! Then move in and tow those fucking trucks. Enough is enough!!!!
 

Fogdog

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I know the history of fire hoses in the United States. I didn't mean it literally. But they should take steps to breakup protests when they are having a direct effect on the public and transit. If they want to go protest somewhere that's fine. Let them hang out in a field for as long as they want. The news cameras will find them. But when they start disrupting everyone elses live then they should be removed. If it takes a little force then so be it.
It's interesting hearing different perspectives too. You are more conservative and lean more authoritarian that I do. That's okay. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.

Protests are disruptive. That's why it's called a protest. The government was moved to act when the protest went too far by interfering with commerce and showed no signs of abating.

This isn't a perfect world. What does one do to motivate change when government refuses to give people redress to valid complaint? Walking around a ballfield isn't going to motivate the system to change. The US was born out of protest against an inflexible government. Valid complaints were ignored and protests moved from peaceful to armed rebellion. When governments suppress speech and peaceful protest over valid issues, their actions don't lead to peace unless it's the peace of the dead. When protest is peaceful, as the trucker convoy in principle was, the protest should be met with restraint and follow legal course of action that observes civil rights.

Firehoses turned on civil rights activists in Birmingham were "justified" by the racist government at that time using the very same language you are using. The struggle was long and disruptive but eventually succeeded. It wasn't going to happen if the protesters simply marched around a Black farmer's field.
 
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Fogdog

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No they should use fire hoses on these fuckers. Give them ample warning and keep the pressure low lol. But ya wet clothes should send them home. My daughters job site has been shut since the beginning in Ottawa, it’s effecting the people that just want to get on with their lives and wear a fucking mask and follow the laws. So ya bring on the water and cut giant holes in the bouncy tents :o! Then move in and tow those fucking trucks. Enough is enough!!!!
Enough was achieved and then the govt moved in.

Bravo, Canada.
 

Budley Doright

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Enough was achieved and then the govt moved in.

Bravo, Canada.
Well I’m not sure exactly what was achieved but perhaps there was something more than putting Canada out there, showing that we too have a few really dumb people. The people that brought their kids to Windsor today are the ones I truly loath, knowing that there could possibly be an escalation given the injunction. There’s good on both sides? Hmmmm lol. Honestly I have no clue what the core protest is about anymore, it’s been lost. My next question is exactly who is funding this, and I’m hopeful more on that will be known.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Well I’m not sure exactly what was achieved but perhaps there was something more than putting Canada out there, showing that we too have a few really dumb people. The people that brought their kids to Windsor today are the ones I truly loath, knowing that there could possibly be an escalation given the injunction. There’s good on both sides? Hmmmm lol. Honestly I have no clue what the core protest is about anymore, it’s been lost. My next question is exactly who is funding this, and I’m hopeful more on that will be known.
Some people have legitimate grievances, this bunch ain't among them. The freedom they demand, is the freedom of a lot less than 10% of the population to determine public policy, sorry, we elect people for that regularly and these clowns ain't among them.

Moving on these fools on a weekend is a mistake, it should be done late at night (no kids) and on a week day, secure the area first and let no one else in FFS! There are a lot of 18 to 30 YO hangers on, many of them are even vaxxed who show up to mostly rubber neck.

Restrictions are being lifted, but on expert advice, not that of some neck beard wearing a flag while blocking a road.
 

HGCC

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I still think you should've just tossed weights from tall buildings down on top of them. Dumbbells for Dumbbells.
 

Budley Doright

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I still think you should've just tossed weights from tall buildings down on top of them. Dumbbells for Dumbbells.
That would be fun but at the very least clear them out and don’t let them back. The crowds in Windsor are growing as we speak with no one stopping them. Actually I really liked DIY’s ideal of a super soaker assault, that’s sounds more like a Canada thing.
 

HGCC

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Can it at least be pee? It's only warm for a minute, then you can turn them into ice cycles.

Kids across the country will be so mad.
"You did what with my super soaker?!?!?!?! Daaaaddd!!!!!"
"It was for the good of the nation son. Sacrifices had to be made."
 

Fogdog

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Well I’m not sure exactly what was achieved but perhaps there was something more than putting Canada out there, showing that we too have a few really dumb people. The people that brought their kids to Windsor today are the ones I truly loath, knowing that there could possibly be an escalation given the injunction. There’s good on both sides? Hmmmm lol. Honestly I have no clue what the core protest is about anymore, it’s been lost. My next question is exactly who is funding this, and I’m hopeful more on that will be known.
I meant to say "Enough" was achieved. In other words, the convoy/antivaxx protests went to the limit of acceptable free speech and the government said "enough".
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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LOL


Protester Daniel Koss told the Associated Press he was happy the scene did not spin out of control, which he believed would have overshadowed the issue of COVID restrictions.

“It’s a win-win,” Koss said. “The pandemic is rolling down right now, they can remove the mandates, all the mandates, and everyone’s happy. The government does the right thing, and the protesters are all happy.”

you fucking weasel, you didn't change a fucking thing, the government is doing EXACTLY what they have been doing...any change is not because of your fail train...and who gives a fuck if some redneck asshole truck drivers are happy anyway? their moms, i guess
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Two-thirds of Canadians support military force to end Ottawa protests: poll

A new poll finds more than two-thirds of Canadians would support the use of military force to help clear out Ottawa protesters, while support for the truckers has fallen to 20 per cent – both for what they are protesting and how they are going about it.

The latest survey by Maru Public Opinion finds 64 per cent approve using the Armed Forces to clear out trucks with heavy tows while 53 per cent support the use of force by Ottawa police to remove truckers, their families and others who refuse to leave. This includes the use of tear gas and other methods, with the understanding that such measures could result in injury.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been asked on several occasions about bringing in the military to assist with the Ottawa protests. While he claims everything is on the table, he says he is “concerned about violence” and that every precaution is being taken to keep people safe.

Ottawa police Chief Peter Sloly said Friday the biggest limitation on his force’s ability to end the crisis is a lack of officers, adding he was still waiting on a response to his request for 1,800 personnel from the RCMP and Ontario Provincial Police.

Ontario premier Doug Ford declared a state of emergency on Friday, making it illegal and punishable to block and impede the movement of goods, people and services along critical infrastructure while both the cities of Ottawa and Windsor were granted injunctions to deal with protesters.

Democracy threatened
Two-thirds of Canadians believe Canada’s democracy is being threatened by the protesters while 67 per cent of those asked believe the truckers are being heavily funded by foreign interests. Six in 10 equate the current protests to the same mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol back on January 6, 2021.

Forty-six per cent blame the truckers for inciting and escalating the protests over the past two weeks while almost a third lay the blame at the feet of the prime minister. Another seven per cent blame the leadership of the federal Conservative party while one in six say “others” are responsible.

When it comes to the prime minister’s performance during the convoy protests, 53 per cent of those asked say Justin Trudeau has looked weak in the face of threats to the country while 44 per cent believe he has inflamed the current situation. One in six say Trudeau has done everything he can to try and calm things down and find a solution. A similar percentage (16 per cent) say they would vote for him based on how he has handled the current situation.

As for what punishment the protesters should face, two thirds say anyone aiding and abetting them should face fines and prison terms while six in 10 would like to see the truckers face fines and jail terms of up to two years. Similar majorities would also like to see them forfeit their vehicles, commercial and personal licenses for up to two years. Only one in three Canadians believes they should be left alone, that it is their right to protest as they are currently doing.

The poll was conducted Feb. 9 and 10, 2022 among a random selection of 1,506 Canadian adults who are Maru Voice Canada panelists and is accurate within +/- 2.5 per cent, 19 times out of 20.
 
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PJ Diaz

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There will be a trucker rally in the US soon. Kickoff rally on March 5th in So Cal, then truckers head out towards DC on March 6th. Should be funzies.
 
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