Deficiencies Again...Ugh

Cannabinoid Froyd

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So, I am having issues. No surprise there.

FF Soil
FF Nutes
Week 4/5 flower
No tools to test PPM or EC
No flush as of yet

1/2 dose through late veg & transplant upto the week before last. This was done every other watering. W, F, W, F etc with the plain watering containing 1tbsp/gal bsm & 1tsp Mykos

Full dose last week of both Cal/Mag & Tiger Bloom. (She was deficient before transplant which is why I was still feeding cal/mag in hopes to have a reserve in the soil)

Due for a feeding today.

No flushing has been done. Just watered to a slight runoff.

Stuck with an arrangement of deficiencies I am almost positive that I caused. Perhaps they are just heavy feeders???

Any help would be appreciated as well as criticism, cat pics and back talk.

Plant 1: Suspected Magnesium deficiency
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Plant 2: Suspected Phosphorus deficiency
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Plant 3: Suspected Cal/Mag deficiency
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My question to you is, "what did I f up & how do I fix it?" I'm at a loss here and don't want to lose my harvest.
 

cage

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I think you are onto something with your suspicisions.

With good runoff you are very unlikely to start accumulating nutrients in the soil.
So I suggest you use fertilizer with every watering.
If u weren't already I think this alone just might fix it.

As for P-K and Ca-Mg I find this graph useful in understanding how the nutrient ratios shift.
Especially look at the ratios of PK to Ca-Mg and even S for the nice terpene production.
NPK.jpgCaMgS.jpgFeMnZnB.jpg
 

Cannabinoid Froyd

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Just to double check. Should I be feeding every watering at a full dose or half dose? I would assume the latter but it is my assumptions that got me in this mess.
 

cage

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Just to double check. Should I be feeding every watering at a full dose or half dose? I would assume the latter but it is my assumptions that got me in this mess.
Yeah, every feeding with fertilizer. Problem with just using the full dose of what the label says, it doesn't take account the amount of light etc u have.
So big plants, alot of light might be close to full dose from the label.

Otherwise ½ or 3/4 what the label says with every watering with decent runoff. You should be golden.
 

Cannabinoid Froyd

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Just wanted to update with an overall look of the girls so we can see how much worse they get.

They were fed 1/2 dose of Cal/Mag & 2/3 dose Tigerbloom (1/2tsp C/MG & 2tsp T.B.). They were all watered in with 1/4gal each. Slight runoff on each. Containers are 4gal.

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Username85

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Just wanted to update with an overall look of the girls so we can see how much worse they get.

They were fed 1/2 dose of Cal/Mag & 2/3 dose Tigerbloom (1/2tsp C/MG & 2tsp T.B.). They were all watered in with 1/4gal each. Slight runoff on each. Containers are 4gal.

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They should be drinking a lot more than 1/4 gal. Should be a gal each I would think-I’m in 5 gal fabric pots and I give 2 gal to one plant and 1.5 gal to the other and they dry out in 2-3 days
 

Username85

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And the pots are saturated. They may get a little more than a 1/4 gal. upto 50floz each.
Do you get much run off after watering? Ive been going with the thought that you want to water about 20-25% of your pot container size. If you aren’t getting enough runoff it could lead to excess of salt buildup in your soil. I could be wrong, but I think you might need to up the amount you water
 

Cannabinoid Froyd

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I haven't measured the runoff but I do get a fair amount of puddl8ng under each container which I have to then get rid of. If I had to guess a number I'd say 5-10floz runoff out of each.
 

Cannabinoid Froyd

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Heading out to get one of those cheap green soil ppm testers. Probably aren't worth much but perhaps it can at least help me narrow down this issue.
 

Kushash

Well-Known Member
So, I am having issues. No surprise there.

FF Soil
FF Nutes
Week 4/5 flower
No tools to test PPM or EC
No flush as of yet

1/2 dose through late veg & transplant upto the week before last. This was done every other watering. W, F, W, F etc with the plain watering containing 1tbsp/gal bsm & 1tsp Mykos

Full dose last week of both Cal/Mag & Tiger Bloom. (She was deficient before transplant which is why I was still feeding cal/mag in hopes to have a reserve in the soil)

Due for a feeding today.

No flushing has been done. Just watered to a slight runoff.

Stuck with an arrangement of deficiencies I am almost positive that I caused. Perhaps they are just heavy feeders???

Any help would be appreciated as well as criticism, cat pics and back talk.

Plant 1: Suspected Magnesium deficiency
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Plant 2: Suspected Phosphorus deficiency
View attachment 5083648

Plant 3: Suspected Cal/Mag deficiency
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My question to you is, "what did I f up & how do I fix it?" I'm at a loss here and don't want to lose my harvest.
What is BSM?
 

ProPheT 216

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So what I perceive from reading what you stated in your initial post and looking at your pictures is you can't undo damage. What I mean by this is you obviously had several different deficiencies that lingered. You can see on the older leaves. New growth looks much better. No matter what you do those leaves wont come back. How many weeks will those take to finish? Hopefully sugar leaves fan leaves stay healthy and can grow the buds.

But if all your tests say ph, ec, ect are fine then I would just feed her at 3 quarter to full feed and see how it goes. Your not gonna bring the plant back to its glory.
 
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