is a reversed female considered a herm?
I guess you could call it that, but I think the pollen of a stable reversed female is different than a hermie, because it will be 100% female if you use it on another female or on the reversed female itself. I have never done this, but might try out to S1 a strain this year I consider special.
xtsho
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Wastei
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Did you read the thread title? It's about storing and transferring pollen. The reason why I said you got some reading to do is because you post a lot of things that doesn't make any sense for seasoned growers.
Everything is not down to growing indoor no but it's about selective breeding. There's no real landraces being sold, you breed for traits and cannabinoid profiles found in landraces. They've all been hybridized.
mudballs
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I dont know how extensive his stabilizing program is but he's got the fugly goods
https://www.strainly.io/en/khalifagenetics
...far as i know these are legit landraces.
I sort of want to grow and look at these later in life, that's why i follow him.
look at that Laotian Muang Sing, omg i want one
https://www.strainly.io/en/khalifagenetics
...far as i know these are legit landraces.
I sort of want to grow and look at these later in life, that's why i follow him.
look at that Laotian Muang Sing, omg i want one
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sure thing bud, have a good day on Trollitup
I wasnt even the one sidetracking the conversation to pollen from males becoming sterile in F4 5 6 7 8 generations, but if you believe that you must be VERY seasoned grower, especially if you cant find any true landraces LOL. some of them might be worked a bit already but Bodhi just had a bunch of Mexican Death Sativa for example which always sold out in no time. He might not even have worked it much if you check pics and reviews from people who grew it. BTW you still didnt address the question at hand from Cavoszia and my response to it once.
Anyways have fun here bud all yours
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SNEAKYp
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I'm growing out Kodama from Bodhi which has the Laotian Muang Sing as a grandparent.
The relation is pretty apparent in one of the phenos
SNEAKYp
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Also on topic.
Not sure if I'll do this again bc my tent is nightmare to clean right now... But I let the males start dropping a good amount of pollen then carefully cut the plant and shook it into a Ziploc that I had a lined with wax paper folded in half. I had a good amount of success with this.
I then store mine in a lab grade vial in the freezer with dessicant beads filling any empty space. Works well.
Not sure if I'll do this again bc my tent is nightmare to clean right now... But I let the males start dropping a good amount of pollen then carefully cut the plant and shook it into a Ziploc that I had a lined with wax paper folded in half. I had a good amount of success with this.
I then store mine in a lab grade vial in the freezer with dessicant beads filling any empty space. Works well.
Nice I saw you post that in the Bodhi seeds thread.
You guys should also check out "generic seeds" on GLG. That is what used to be Classic, but sadly he passed away revently, but some good peeps keep the lines going. I was also fortunate enough to get a bunch of his strains like AG x CG, Urban Menace and some Romulan cross. Very cool stuff
Wastei
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Welcome to RIU. You can learn to better understand a lot of subjects on here. Breeding is one of them. Good luck in your endeavors!
still not adressing any points made I see. Lets just agree to disagree.
I have F2d every strain since my second grow with a few seeds on lower buds as explained on the FIRST page. Not breeding, just saying pollen works no matter what generation. But I guess you disagree with that still and keep putting words in peoples mouth.
Btw you also didnt address any of the landrace stuff out there people gave you examples for. Shows your character
mudballs
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No they are not different...the plant will pass same genes whether it was stress induced hermaphrodite event, or spray induced.
So why is using hermies in breeding a bad thing, if we literally make hermies for fem seeds?
I dont cuz people freak and my rep will be ruined..no amount of dr.bugbee science will save a breeder using hermies...but you literally could, and then just test out offspring for sensitivity.
Thanks for clarifying. As far as I know a hermie will pass on the hermie trades to at least some of the offsprings, meaning they wont be stable males or females. If you reverse a stable female though the pollen should produce 100% female offsprings aka feminized seeds, right? That was just my point, but maybe I have a misunderstanding here.
mudballs
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As far as ive found it just passes sensitivity..that's it. Either the plant is super sensitive to light change, temp, or its not and takes more to herm. That's the trait (gene expression) being passed, all have the genes, expression sensitivity is what's being reduced or amplified by bad selection practices.
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Thank you, that makes sense
xtsho
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A chemically reversed female is different from a natural occuring hermaphrodite plant A hermaphrodite plant displays both male and female inflorescences due to either genetic or stress factors. When you spray with STS or CS on a female plant you are blocking the production of ethylene which results in the formation of male flowers that produce pollen that contains only X and not Y which results in feminized seeds when used on a female which is XX.
mudballs
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Im talking about gene expression...doesnt matter how the herm happened...the gene to herm is already hard coded...in every plant. You cant remove it, whether it's a sprayed fem with no Y chrome, or a male hermaphrodite...the offspring will have the hardcoded SC(Self Compatible) herm gene...the expression is what we want to focus on and work down.
Wastei
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And they all have different genotypes and set of genes like humans do. Biology and genetics is very complex and interesting. We only understand and have explored a fraction of it, that's what's most fascinating. Cheers!