Extreme Defoliation...

[Markshomegrown]

Plucking suckers is pretty normal practice. Removing 90% of leaves, not so much

who said removing 90%of the fan leaves was a good idea?
The OP removed 100%

 

[mudballs]

Just to add another facet of debate to this, since no one's mentioned it yet..

What about cotton? Defoliation is standard in the cotton industry, for increasing both quality and quantity of cotton flowers. Sure, it's a different crop, and a different defoliation technique, but cotton is also a flower not a berry.

My best guess on cotton is that cotton is a perennial, and they grow it like an annual because perennials dont go full monty until 2nd year? So they prune to trigger 2nd yr growth during 1st yr? Idk i dont have any cotton friends to call...but i bet the perennial thing is at play

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

who said removing 90%of the fan leaves was a good idea?
The OP removed 100%

No one, that's why people who use the technique are here to correct the narrative

 

[PJ Diaz]

My best guess on cotton is that cotton is a perennial, and they grow it like an annual because perennials dont go full monty until 2nd year? So they prune to trigger 2nd yr growth during 1st yr? Idk i dont have any cotton friends to call...but i bet the perennial thing is at play

It is a perennial grown as an annual, but it's done so to reduce pests.

 

[calvin.m16]

credits go to @Samwell Seed Well for meme


If you're against defoliation why do you keep viewing defoliation threads? Buncha Closet Defoliators.This is defoliator territory. NOW GET OUT!
You're like the kind of people that join a Democratic forum when you're a Republican and just argue with everyone. You're like someone that buys a movie knowing it sucks then bitch the entire time the movie is playing ruining it for everyone.

 

[mudballs]

And it's a flower increase we should look at? Maybe they have the right amount, instead the leaf genocide on display usually

 

[Boatguy]

who said removing 90%of the fan leaves was a good idea?
The OP removed 100%

Post 501 is a pretty good example

 

[rkymtnman]

credits go to @Samwell Seed Well for meme
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If you're against defoliation why do you keep viewing defoliation threads? Buncha Closet Defoliators.This is defoliator territory. NOW GET OUT!
You're like the kind of people that join a Democratic forum when you're a Republican and just argue with everyone. You're like someone that buys a movie knowing it sucks then bitch the entire time the movie is playing ruining it for everyone.

i thought this was a flushing thread? WTF?????

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

credits go to @Samwell Seed Well
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If you're against defoliation why do you keep viewing defoliation threads? Buncha Closet Defoliators.This is defoliator territory. NOW GET OUT!
You're like the kind of people that join a Democratic forum when you're a Republican and just argue with everyone. You're like someone that buys a movie knowing it sucks then bitch the entire time the movie is playing ruining it for everyone.

It's called having a discussion. Forcing everyone that doesn't agree with you out of the conversation doesn't make you right. It makes you closed minded.

 

[NanoGadget]

I take this back. There's a possibility that indica and sativa leaners respond differently. This could have influenced yields that I wrote off as genetics. I have no idea though, I'm just speculating.

i have a strain that turns into a bush with no topping and no training. as long as it gets sufficient light I tend to get 8 to 12 hand grenade colas. it's crazy.

 

[calvin.m16]

i thought this was a flushing thread? WTF?????

This thread quit being about Defoliation about 30 pages ago.

 

[calvin.m16]

i have a strain that turns into a bush with no topping and no training. as long as it gets sufficient light I tend to get 8 to 12 hand grenade colas. it's crazy.

That's what's up, what strain is it?

 

[shnkrmn]

Like determinate beans or tomatoes.

 

[thefullspectrum]

Removing side shoots is a common practice with taller varieties of tomato.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...IQFnoECAEQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3ndub2Ox_s_NgxsAmrcWMo

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From the link...
Continued care involves pinching off the suckers that pop up when growing cherry tomatoes. Look at where the branches meet the stalk and form a “V.” Removing the small suckers at these junctions and at the bottom of the main stalk will let your plant to use more of its energy to make fruit.

Some Tomatoe growers only keep 12 healthy leaves on during fruiting. NFI how a flowering plant compares.

 

[shnkrmn]

Although, duh, cannabis IS determinate just potentially very tall

 

[rkymtnman]

ome Tomatoe growers only keep 12 healthy leaves on during fruiting

why so many?

 

[calvin.m16]

why so many?

I agree, too many leaves. Not Extreme enough.

 

[rkymtnman]

I agree, too many leaves. Not Extreme enough.

i'm so exxxtreme i taught my roots how to photosynthesize. i have zero point zero leaves at harvest

 

[Star Dog]

I'm neither for nor against it appears to have its uses for me in veg and I'm open minded on flowering yeild/quality ratio.

It slows stretch, if it lowers humidity enough any loss is acceptable to me, but let's see?

 

[calvin.m16]

I'm neither for nor against it appears to have its uses for me in veg and I'm open minded on flowering yeild/quality ratio.
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It slows stretch, if it lowers humidity enough any loss is acceptable to me, but let's see?

My yields in 10 gallon pots went from 8-10 ounces per/plant to 10-12 ounces per/plant with 2 node defoliation where I literally strip the plant all the way to the top 2 nodes day of 12/12 flip, only leaving the top 2 node sets leaves and nodes. If anything you might be surprised and notice a bigger yield with heavy defoliation. Every plant is different in how it responds though I have had strains that did not like heavy defoliation like my Punch Cookies I've been running since 2019. I do a mild defoliation on that one..