Budley Doright
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Uh oh
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War
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.i still shudder at he thought of him being a spoiler for 2024.We barely survived that man.
Trump suggested dropping nuclear bombs into hurricanes to stop them from hitting the U.S.
"People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"www.axios.com
DIY-HP-LED
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Tucker of the 5th column, if there's a hot war, hang the fucker for treason along with Trump.
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www.rawstory.com
"Fox News host Tucker Carlson's regular pro-Kremlin rants are apparently having a big impact on his viewers' takes on American foreign policy.
Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-NJ) on Monday revealed that "my office is now getting calls from folks who say they watch Tucker Carlson and are upset that we're not siding with Russia in its threats to invade Ukraine."
What's more, says Malinowski, these callers "want me to support Russia's 'reasonable' positions" when it comes to potentially invading and annexing a sovereign nation".
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Dem lawmaker says Tucker Carlson fans are bombarding his office with calls demanding he support Russia
Fox News host Tucker Carlson's regular pro-Kremlin rants are apparently having a big impact on his viewers' takes on American foreign policy.Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-NJ) on Monday revealed that "my office is now getting calls from folks who say they watch Tucker Carlson and are upset that we're...
www.rawstory.com
"Fox News host Tucker Carlson's regular pro-Kremlin rants are apparently having a big impact on his viewers' takes on American foreign policy.
Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-NJ) on Monday revealed that "my office is now getting calls from folks who say they watch Tucker Carlson and are upset that we're not siding with Russia in its threats to invade Ukraine."
What's more, says Malinowski, these callers "want me to support Russia's 'reasonable' positions" when it comes to potentially invading and annexing a sovereign nation".
My rant about the F-35 program wasn't meant to demean our military, still best in world IMO or anybody serving which I consider noble, hell I come from a military fam., I guess my rant was based on the burocracy that weapons programs and developement go through before coming to fruition. Senators have to "deliver" for their states and sometimes leads to wasteful spending and inefficiency, I'd just like to see the procurement of defense spending cleaned up or streamlined a little more that's all. As for Russia, they have a inferiority complex IMO, some of that is the West's fault IMO, and Putin is pushing the Nationalism button to distract everyday Russian people from their shitty economy and living standard, which could be a hell of a lot better if he and his powerful oligarchy bros. were out of business running that country,I actually sympathize w/your everyday Russian ,they deserve better IMO.
I can't argue w/your statement there, I'm not naive and to reach the top politicaly in the US you will inevitably acquire some dirty laundry on the way. Until your main man Cheeto showed up I'm on record on this site as saying that I alway's found a way to respect ev. Pres. regardless of what party they belonged to. I'm pretty much a center,pragmatic Dem. who realizes and respects the diversity of our country, it used to be a strength until things got polarized w/the 10% f.right and f.left seemingly controlling the narrative. In a country that was built on immigration containing a multitude of cultures nobody is going to get 100% of their agenda and respect and compromise in negotiation is the only sane way forward. I always thought that our diversity and amalgamation of diff. cultures made the US unique and gave us good karma in this world and made other nations envious that this nation had the balls to try to make it work warts and all for everyone to see.How many politicians on both sides of the isle fall under thus ultra-rich category? Blows my mind you think because of what party they claim, they give a shit about any of us
Fogdog
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Left or right. Doesn't matter to the guy whose windpipe is squeezed shut by the cop's knee.
What does matter is people are still claiming Eric Chauvin's innocence and they are all hard right authoritarians. I don't know what f.left people you are talking about who oppose this country becoming a multicultural democracy.
Bagginski
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Given the situation, 8500 seems like a very measured response, as they like to say…but if it were me, I’d want them to be ‘available to deploy’ within 24 hours - to show readiness. Shit like that is part of the moves in the saber-rattling dance. No mention of what other troops are already available - and so not part of this alert…not surprising: if they’re already active, their status would already be shielded (no comment on troop movements). Isn’t part of the justification for the standing army the maintenance of a constant ready status? Hell, we probably still have 10-20,000 stationed in Europe already - response time of what, six hours? Four?
Depending on how it’s staged and from where, this could put a division on the ground in close striking distance literally within hours. Doing a little checking, I learned that the original elite paratroopers that earned their rep were originally divisions made up of…8,500 troops. Maybe something to think about.
This shit gives me an itch, I don’t like war in any way, and yet one way and another I’ve studied it all my life.
I’m sure that if Delirious Caesar were still driving, Putin could just take what he wanted, we’d leave NATO with a bill for 75 years’ “protection” + the vig, and it would take a century before we could lose the stigma of it (and that’s if we worked consistently). As it is, I call it a dangerous test. I don’t think Joe is as easy prey as the DFP, and this could in fact get serious, but unless Putin is intending for it to come to direct blows, I don’t think it will…but this is not yer grandpa’s Soviet Union we’re dealing with, here: Putin is considerably more Napoleonic…though I note the Czarist-era art styles and themes showing up in some Russian games the last few years.
Roger A. Shrubber
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putin wants to regain some of the millions of square kilometers and millions of citizens they lost after both world wars, but the citizens don't want to be regained...they look at russia now and see a country run by a corrupt government (sound familiar?), making immoral choices in a grab for lost power and glory.
i think if we abandon one single eastern european nation to russian aggression, we'll regret it, and not some day, we'll regret it immediately, bcause that will be a trigger for him to try again, and then we'll HAVE to go kick his ass, and it will be a longer, bloodier fight
captainmorgan
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Gee, that little threat from Putin about cutting off the gas to Europe came out of no wear lol. Could the fact that our country has fracked it's way into a ecological disaster here at home and built LNG infrastructure and ports be connected in any way? And The US has promised Europe it will supply them with LNG if Putin cuts them off. Naw, that's tinfoil hat stuff there, that would mean that's been the plan for quite some time. Gee, there goes our 100 year supply. Gee, I wonder if this means higher prices because there's higher demand. What did working people get besides toxic water and higher bills?
Fogdog
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NY Times published an opinion piece from Fiona Hill, the advisor to Trump on Ukraine and gave testimony against Trump during his first impeachment trial.
Putin Has the U.S. Right Where He Wants It
www.nytimes.com
Excerpt:
Mr. Putin wants to give the United States a taste of the same bitter medicine Russia had to swallow in the 1990s. He believes that the United States is currently in the same predicament as Russia was after the Soviet collapse: grievously weakened at home and in retreat abroad. He also thinks NATO is nothing more than an extension of the United States. Russian officials and commentators routinely deny any agency or independent strategic thought to other NATO members. So, when it comes to the alliance, all of Moscow’s moves are directed against Washington.
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Mr. Putin plays a longer, strategic game and knows how to prevail in the tactical scrum. He has the United States right where he wants it. His posturing and threats have set the agenda in European security debates, and have drawn our full attention. Unlike President Biden, Mr. Putin doesn’t have to worry about midterm elections or pushback from his own party or the opposition. Mr. Putin has no concerns about bad press or poor poll ratings. He isn’t part of a political party and he has crushed the Russian opposition. The Kremlin has largely silenced the local, independent press. Mr. Putin is up for re-election in 2024, but his only viable opponent, Aleksei Navalny, is locked in a penal colony outside of Moscow.
So Mr. Putin can act as he chooses, when he chooses. Barring ill health, the United States will have to contend with him for years to come. Right now, all signs indicate that Mr. Putin will lock the United States into an endless tactical game, take more chunks out of Ukraine and exploit all the frictions and fractures in NATO and the European Union. Getting out of the current crisis requires acting, not reacting. The United States needs to shape the diplomatic response and engage Russia on the West’s terms, not just Moscow’s.
She's not really saying Putin won the fight already, though the headline makes that out to be the case. She's providing advice with a warning of what might happen if the advice isn't taken. Putin is trying to drive a wedge between the US and the rest of NATO and using Ukraine for leverage. She is advising that the US needs to act in concert with its partners both in Europe and the United Nations. Breaking up US alliances and eliminating US bases in Europe are Putin's objective. Her advice is: " Forging a united front with its European allies and rallying broader support should be America’s longer game. Otherwise this saga could indeed mark the beginning of the end of America’s military presence in Europe."
Putin Has the U.S. Right Where He Wants It
Opinion | Putin Has the U.S. Right Where He Wants It (Published 2022)
Vladimir Putin’s aim is bigger than closing NATO’s “open door” to Ukraine and taking more territory.
Excerpt:
Mr. Putin wants to give the United States a taste of the same bitter medicine Russia had to swallow in the 1990s. He believes that the United States is currently in the same predicament as Russia was after the Soviet collapse: grievously weakened at home and in retreat abroad. He also thinks NATO is nothing more than an extension of the United States. Russian officials and commentators routinely deny any agency or independent strategic thought to other NATO members. So, when it comes to the alliance, all of Moscow’s moves are directed against Washington.
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Mr. Putin plays a longer, strategic game and knows how to prevail in the tactical scrum. He has the United States right where he wants it. His posturing and threats have set the agenda in European security debates, and have drawn our full attention. Unlike President Biden, Mr. Putin doesn’t have to worry about midterm elections or pushback from his own party or the opposition. Mr. Putin has no concerns about bad press or poor poll ratings. He isn’t part of a political party and he has crushed the Russian opposition. The Kremlin has largely silenced the local, independent press. Mr. Putin is up for re-election in 2024, but his only viable opponent, Aleksei Navalny, is locked in a penal colony outside of Moscow.
So Mr. Putin can act as he chooses, when he chooses. Barring ill health, the United States will have to contend with him for years to come. Right now, all signs indicate that Mr. Putin will lock the United States into an endless tactical game, take more chunks out of Ukraine and exploit all the frictions and fractures in NATO and the European Union. Getting out of the current crisis requires acting, not reacting. The United States needs to shape the diplomatic response and engage Russia on the West’s terms, not just Moscow’s.
She's not really saying Putin won the fight already, though the headline makes that out to be the case. She's providing advice with a warning of what might happen if the advice isn't taken. Putin is trying to drive a wedge between the US and the rest of NATO and using Ukraine for leverage. She is advising that the US needs to act in concert with its partners both in Europe and the United Nations. Breaking up US alliances and eliminating US bases in Europe are Putin's objective. Her advice is: " Forging a united front with its European allies and rallying broader support should be America’s longer game. Otherwise this saga could indeed mark the beginning of the end of America’s military presence in Europe."
captainmorgan
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Putin is scared shitless to get kicked out of SWIFT. That means his fate is tied to China, not a great option. Funny how some vital infrastructure type industries are building plants here at home, it's almost like they know something.
captainmorgan
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It's almost like the Kochs should be labeled enemy of the people. They are blocking climate change agendas so they can sell our natural resources and pollute our water and in the end stick us with the bill. Radical stuff right, I don't read about or watch conspiracy theory videos, just watch for changes and what they lead to, crazy me.
DIY-HP-LED
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Looks like a ship needs a shadow that can monitor and sink it, cut a cable, get sunk, no warning or questions asked. Their problem is they have one ship that can do this and that ship can be sunk. Ireland will be part of NATO and is part of the EU, dealing with the Russian navy should not be an issue.
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Irish Fishermen Plan To Disrupt Russian Naval War Games: 'Our Presence Is Our Protest'
Rachel Maddow reports on suspicious activities by the Russian Navy in waters off Ireland that have added to concerns about Russia's planned naval war games in Irish territorial waters, and the intention of Irish fishermen to disrupt those war games and protect their fishing territory.
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Irish Fishermen Plan To Disrupt Russian Naval War Games: 'Our Presence Is Our Protest'
Rachel Maddow reports on suspicious activities by the Russian Navy in waters off Ireland that have added to concerns about Russia's planned naval war games in Irish territorial waters, and the intention of Irish fishermen to disrupt those war games and protect their fishing territory.
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Beauty..that was the money shot..somewhere in the WH Biden is smiling.Tucker of the 5th column, if there's a hot war, hang the fucker for treason along with Trump.
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Dem lawmaker says Tucker Carlson fans are bombarding his office with calls demanding he support Russia
Fox News host Tucker Carlson's regular pro-Kremlin rants are apparently having a big impact on his viewers' takes on American foreign policy.Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-NJ) on Monday revealed that "my office is now getting calls from folks who say they watch Tucker Carlson and are upset that we're...
"Fox News host Tucker Carlson's regular pro-Kremlin rants are apparently having a big impact on his viewers' takes on American foreign policy.
Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-NJ) on Monday revealed that "my office is now getting calls from folks who say they watch Tucker Carlson and are upset that we're not siding with Russia in its threats to invade Ukraine."
What's more, says Malinowski, these callers "want me to support Russia's 'reasonable' positions" when it comes to potentially invading and annexing a sovereign nation".
i just knew the Irish wouldn't take this sitting down and they just might write a limerick about it too!
DIY-HP-LED
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NATO and the Royal Navy will be nearby and cable defense has now taken on a new importance. It would be a very serious mistake if they sank an Irish fisherman, they would most likely be sunk themselves by NATO. Russia has a single ship that can do this shit and taking it out would be convenient. Navies defend trade and trade happens over undersea cables these days. They could also be mining these cables to destroy them at a time of their choosing, so they will need to be inspected, monitored and defended. If they are doing this and they find mined undersea cables, NATO will sink on sight any Russian vessel with the capabilities to do it and there are not very many. Mining cables would be an act of war in this day and age.
I can assure you the Royal Navy would take a very keen interest in this matter on their doorstep with cables going to the financial hub in London at risk. They probably have submarines that can hear what the Russians are doing in great detail and cutting cables makes noise.
This will push Ireland to full NATO membership, Sweden and Finland are already considering joining because of Russian aggression. If Russia wants war it will be up against 30 countries plus another three and most of them have larger economies than Russia. Europe is also rethinking it's dependency on Russian oil and gas and moving to a new green grid in a decade, this will speed it up. Oil and gas are about all Russia exports and the major source of income, the average Russian has an income of just $400/mth, if they start a war, it will soon be nothing.
they're on their way. Godspeed.
America needs to start putting every Russian in a concentration camp.
not really but we are just as heinous as everyone else..Putin can only stage and we will rise to the occasion..he has nowhere to go and will use a world event to slink on back (withdraw) to Mother Russia. + Putin's aging too..do we know HIS mental health?
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No, we kick his ass now.
Jimdamick
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I didn't know where to place this because it sorta fit's in the Happy thread also.
MSN
Fuck Ukraine, those Russkie fucks are fucking with the wrong country now.
WE WILL FUCK YOU UP!!!!!
Imagine a fleet of Irishmen & women drunk on Porter & Poitin attacking?
Oh boy, this should be fun (fast forward to 1:30)
And for you that don't know what Poitin & Porter are, these are those, just two of Ireland's many hundreds of thousands of beneficial contributions to Humankind.
1st Poitin, also known as the Breath of Life/Mother's milk. It's made from potatoes of course & is the 1st true Irish whiskey & it will cause pain, but a nice pain (if you know what I mean
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This is the best I ever drank & it's made right down the road from my mum's house in Galway,Ireland (treat yourself to a bottle for St. Pats)
This is Porter
And this is a small snippet from the Greatest Film ever made, shot by my Da's house in Connemara & yes, pubs are like that in the West of Ireland.
MSN
Fuck Ukraine, those Russkie fucks are fucking with the wrong country now.
WE WILL FUCK YOU UP!!!!!
Imagine a fleet of Irishmen & women drunk on Porter & Poitin attacking?
Oh boy, this should be fun (fast forward to 1:30)
And for you that don't know what Poitin & Porter are, these are those, just two of Ireland's many hundreds of thousands of beneficial contributions to Humankind.
1st Poitin, also known as the Breath of Life/Mother's milk. It's made from potatoes of course & is the 1st true Irish whiskey & it will cause pain, but a nice pain (if you know what I mean
)This is the best I ever drank & it's made right down the road from my mum's house in Galway,Ireland (treat yourself to a bottle for St. Pats)
This is Porter
And this is a small snippet from the Greatest Film ever made, shot by my Da's house in Connemara & yes, pubs are like that in the West of Ireland.
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