Would u chop or wait??

[freshtodeath]

Hi everyone
This is my 1st photo and I have grown it in a hempy bucket, for the 1st time also, it wasn't too bad tbh. Anyway, I need some advice on whether to start the 48hrs dark and chop now or wait a little longer? It's been there since mid Sep. I checked the trichomes last week and they were mainly clear, today, I'm seeing a few Amber heads pop up! Should i chop now or wait, help pls?? I have attached a zoomed in picof trichs, a pic of the bud, and the whole plant. Thanks in advance

 

[Joncoh101]

I would chop those man, look epic!

 

[Herb & Suds]

I would drop the nitrogen and finish two more weeks

 

[freshtodeath]

I would chop those man, look epic!

Thank you, much appreciated

 

[freshtodeath]

I would drop the nitrogen and finish two more weeks

2 more weeks, wouldn't all the trichs be Amber by then though?

 

[Herb & Suds]

2 more weeks, wouldn't all the trichs be Amber by then though?

You’ll be fine
It’s trying to put out more white pistils like you have been hitting it with Calmag

 

[freshtodeath]

You’ll be fine
It’s trying to put out more white pistils like you have been hitting it with Calmag

Yeah, you're right in regards to the calmag. OK, so I'll cut the calmag now and give her a little longer then.

 

[Killaki]

Hi everyone
This is my 1st photo and I have grown it in a hempy bucket, for the 1st time also, it wasn't too bad tbh. Anyway, I need some advice on whether to start the 48hrs dark and chop now or wait a little longer? It's been there since mid Sep. I checked the trichomes last week and they were mainly clear, today, I'm seeing a few Amber heads pop up! Should i chop now or wait, help pls?? I have attached a zoomed in picof trichs, a pic of the bud, and the whole plant. Thanks in advance

Really close don't chop now! I agree to check back in 2 weeks.

 

[Herb & Suds]

2 more weeks, wouldn't all the trichs be Amber by then though?

Good job overall

 

[Bullmark]

I’m growing a plant that is kicking off those thick “foxtail” type calyces, just like yours. They puke out super thick white pistils (or stigmata, whatever), just like I see with yours. Allowing those to finish will not only allow your trichs to mature but will also add some heft to the buds and your yield.
My plant looked just like that 2 weeks ago With the thick white offerings. Plus I couldn’t find an amber trich to save my life. I had mostly milky but still too many clears. It’s been difficult but I waited, continue to feed down, and this morn 95% of those white hairs have turned orange and tightened up back into the calyx.
And oh by the way, I finally started seeing some ambers. I’ll check it over the next few days and when it has a good population of ambers, maybe 20-30%, I’ll chop it.
That bud you’re growing will look, smell and taste just fine if picked today. But letting those last heavy calyces perpetuate will deliver a next level experience.
I’m happy to show u some pics of mine…..how it looked ready 2 weeks ago vs how it looks today.
But it is your grow and a damn fine one. Do what you wanna do…..Im just weighing in b/c you asked and it’s fun to shoot the sh!t.

 

[Redlig]

Chopping with white stigma still showing isnt a good idea in my opinion...but hey its your plant


Maybe I shoulda just said give it two weeks lol

 

[Bullmark]

2 more weeks, wouldn't all the trichs be Amber by then though?

Read my post. Typically buds that aren’t ripe don’t degrade to any degree. Often times you’ll see buds with lots of new white pistils being generated that have a good population of milky trichs. Those trichs can and will stay milky until the bud finishes ripening.
I’ve said many times that folks get the cart before the horse by looking at trichs before their buds are actually ripe. You’ll never see a bud that isn’t ripe with a majority of amber trichs.
I have 3 plants that are taking forever to finish. Some of that is my own doing, but some is genetic. They’ve had a majority of milky trichs for 3 weeks. Thankfully they are now really close to finishing and being ripe. Some of those milky trichs are starting to turn amber, but only a few….and I’m talking about on the calyces and more inside the buds…..not on the sugar leaves.
The worst thing breeders can do for the growing community is publish short harvest times…..way way too many grows are finished before they should be and a lot of folks don’t know what truly ripe means or how it smokes.
Be well.

 

[Samsung Kawasaki]

It looks like she has another swell left and you will be surprised how much more fat she can get! I'd wait another week or two

 

[Bullmark]

I don’t mean to go off topic but I’ve been thinking recently about the cannabis industry and how companies are marketing their products.
In the simplest of terms, a plant that grows from seed to harvest in 8-10 weeks is light years more profitable than the same plant requiring 12-14 weeks.
The seed breeders sell more seeds, same for nutrients, soil, etc. Everyone re-ups sooner. The immature bud that’s been grown doesn’t last as long…..not as potent and yields are smaller.
So think about motivation the next time you read an article touting the virtues of an energetic positive vide experience by harvesting your plants as soon as you see the first milky trich.
Maybe I’m going off the deep end….probably a little. But rest assured anytime big business and their marketing execs get the chance, they will say just about anything to increase sales.
This industry is booming and the number of brand new growers likely out number the established ones exponentially.
Hell for that matter I’m a new grower. I grew exclusively outdoors for 9-10 yrs in a row when I was a young recent college graduate. I stopped and many years later it became legal in my State, so I dove back in. And the indoor process is presenting a huge learning curve for me. Autoflowers were not a thing when I was active. The lighting, the mediums, environmental factors are all new. But the one thing that hasn’t changed is that flower starting from a few pistils and going through it’s amazing process to a final ripe bud. That still happens the way it did 25 yrs ago.
Through being online I get to see others grow and I follow a lot of diaries. It blows my mind how many grows are harvested way too early. A week or so is often a matter of preference, but I’m not talking about a week too early….more like 3-4 weeks sometimes. Buds that are just barely getting started and out comes the jewelers loupe, followed by chop chop.
As I thought about it, I began to notice the marketing habits of some of the larger businesses and that explained it.
Sorry to ramble….I should really post this elsewhere, and may do so. Oh well u get to read it first.

 

[freshtodeath]

I’m growing a plant that is kicking off those thick “foxtail” type calyces, just like yours. They puke out super thick white pistils (or stigmata, whatever), just like I see with yours. Allowing those to finish will not only allow your trichs to mature but will also add some heft to the buds and your yield.
My plant looked just like that 2 weeks ago With the thick white offerings. Plus I couldn’t find an amber trich to save my life. I had mostly milky but still too many clears. It’s been difficult but I waited, continue to feed down, and this morn 95% of those white hairs have turned orange and tightened up back into the calyx.
And oh by the way, I finally started seeing some ambers. I’ll check it over the next few days and when it has a good population of ambers, maybe 20-30%, I’ll chop it.
That bud you’re growing will look, smell and taste just fine if picked today. But letting those last heavy calyces perpetuate will deliver a next level experience.
I’m happy to show u some pics of mine…..how it looked ready 2 weeks ago vs how it looks today.
But it is your grow and a damn fine one. Do what you wanna do…..Im just weighing in b/c you asked and it’s fun to shoot the sh!t.

Thank you for your input, it is greatly appreciated. I'm going to hold out for just over a week now and then see what happens. If you could show me pics of yours 2 weeks ago and now, that would help me too. Thanks in advance

 

[Bullmark]

Thank you for your input, it is greatly appreciated. I'm going to hold out for just over a week now and then see what happens. If you could show me pics of yours 2 weeks ago and now, that would help me too. Thanks in advance

Ok…took me a min to find one of the same stalk. First pic is Jan 14….u can see a few little foxtail calyces with thick white hairs flowing out. Fast forward, same cola, about 20 min ago….notice how those same white pistils have turned and tightened. To me they look ripe. However, I just scoped that plant and there are only a very few amber trichs. I’d say 80% cloudy…..and still too many clear ones. I’ll check it daily but it will likely take a week to get a decent population of ambers.
Kinda goes back to what the old timer always told me many yrs ago. He maintained that once a plant looked totally ripe to give it another week for the inside to ripen. Some serious old man science….but turning out to be accurate this time for me.

 

[Wattzzup]

Ok…took me a min to find one of the same stalk. First pic is Jan 14….u can see a few little foxtail calyces with thick white hairs flowing out. Fast forward, same cola, about 20 min ago….notice how those same white pistils have turned and tightened. To me they look ripe. However, I just scoped that plant and there are only a very few amber trichs. I’d say 80% cloudy…..and still too many clear ones. I’ll check it daily but it will likely take a week to get a decent population of ambers.
Kinda goes back to what the old timer always told me many yrs ago. He maintained that once a plant looked totally ripe to give it another week for the inside to ripen. Some serious old man science….but turning out to be accurate this time for me. View attachment 5075340View attachment 5075341

I don’t think that’s foxtailing. If it is it’s small IMO.



nice job on your plants so far.

here’s foxtailing

 

[Wattzzup]

Hi everyone
This is my 1st photo and I have grown it in a hempy bucket, for the 1st time also, it wasn't too bad tbh. Anyway, I need some advice on whether to start the 48hrs dark and chop now or wait a little longer? It's been there since mid Sep. I checked the trichomes last week and they were mainly clear, today, I'm seeing a few Amber heads pop up! Should i chop now or wait, help pls?? I have attached a zoomed in picof trichs, a pic of the bud, and the whole plant. Thanks in advance

Go to your 3rd pic you posted. The one of the whole plant. Zoom in on the far left cola toward the front of the plant. see how there’s no white hairs? That’s what you want on all of it.

 

[Bullmark]

Thank you for your input, it is greatly appreciated. I'm going to hold out for just over a week now and then see what happens. If you could show me pics of yours 2 weeks ago and now, that would help me too. Thanks in advance

I thought I would show u a pic of another plant that’s growing right beside the first one. Two plants could not have looked any different during the grow. The first plant was dark green and much compact. This one was a lighter shade of green and it’s leaves were more thin and long. One looked more indica and the other more sativa. They are both Super Skunk Autos from the same seed pack. Obviously very different phenos. The entire time they’ve been flowering the buds have looked different as well. This one has spit off way more long pistils and they have been slow to change color and recede.
But now as it gets closer to the finish line, the buds are looking more and more alike. This plant is a good week or so behind and I looked for 30 min and could not find an amber trich, other than on the sugar leaves. The interior of the buds and the calyces had no ambers….mostly cloudy, maybe 75%.
Anyway, u can see a few of those “dreadlock” looking, foxtailing calyces on this plant as well.
By the way, these are your typical 8-10 week autos…..lol. Sprouted on Oct 13…..so you do the math. From what I can conclude, my temps may have been a little low and that slowed em down. I ran low/mid 70s during day, 5-10degrees cooler for lights out.
I’m running a HLG 320 LED……and am told the temps need to be 81-83f. Next run they will be.
Well good luck and don’t worry about your buds getting too ripe…..if I had $1million every time I saw overripe buds, I’d still be broke.

 

[Bullmark]

I don’t think that’s foxtailing. If it is it’s small IMO.



nice job on your plants so far.

here’s foxtailing
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There are two concepts of foxtailing. The first concept is “bad foxtailing” and it looks like the pic you posted and much worse. It’s caused by heat/light stress. The calyces stack up on top of one another and do some other funky things. Typically this happens only on the buds closest to the light.
The other type of “ft” is totally different. Other cultures don’t call it foxtailing….they have different names for it. I’ve read where it’s called “dreadlocking” and also”king’s crowning”.
This is actually a desired trait in those cultures because it typically adds some heft to your buds…..more dense and more weight.
The little swirly “dreadlocks” or “king’s crowns” are 100% genetic and simply a really really swollen calyx. They also grow on the entire plant, top to bottom, as they are not a result of heat or light stress.
I wish we could find another term that doesn’t immediately make folks think that this is a negative.
Anyway, from now on I’m gonna call em dreadlocks…..maybe the term will pick up some momentum.