Examples of GOP Leadership

[schuylaar]

'American Phony': 'Mini-Trump' Ditches 'Big-Trump' Amid 'Gutless' Slam

MAGA Gov. Ron DeSantis rose through the ranks of the GOP and made a political career out of copying Donald Trump. But now, as many start to look ahead to the 2024 presidential election, DeSantis appears to be breaking with the Trump playbook. In this special report, MSNBC’s Ari Melber breaks down the growing rift between “mini-Trump” DeSantis and the former president, with nods to Austin Powers and Aubrey Graham.

What?..no nod to Tony Soprano? <mob boss voice>. i wonder if That Mans overcoat is going into the Smithsonian.

 

[hanimmal]

I never brought up Michigan. I love michigan.

I was talking about California, Illinios (chicago), new york.

These would be the few states I feel like a would need my pistol and the few ones that outlaw such things.

 

[OG-KGP]

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Mis spoke. i never brought up Michigan as being a terrible democratic place. I have a Michigan issued CPL. Couldn't get that in a far left state.

 

[hanimmal]

Mis spoke. i never brought up Michigan as being a terrible democratic place. I have a Michigan issued CPL. Couldn't get that in a far left state.

 

[OG-KGP]

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Yes that explains why Detroit is in a state of decline. Proves my point.

Michigan, was the topic, not the most liberal city in Michigan. Michigan as a whole as been a swing state.

Michigan Presidential Election Voting History - 270toWin

Information on how the residents of Michigan have voted in presidential elections. Includes trends and polls for the 2024 election, as well as a Michigan voting history and narrative.

www.270towin.com

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Just curious, but why does this upset you so much?

I read the news article and DeSantis is putting together a 52 person team to try and catch and arrest people who vote fraudulently. I think this is a good thing.

Same as anyone fraudulently trying to purchase a weapon. These are rights that should be protected from fraud.

desantis has absolutely no interest in catching fraudulent voters, unless they happen to be democrats, and there are like .001 % of them to catch, so right off the bat, this is a useless body that is supposedly tasked with stopping something that essentially never happens.....this is a suppression force, a force designed to intimidate minorities, to supress their votes, to make them uncomfortable standing in lines waiting to vote with essentially a white supremacist security force breathing down their necks while they wait to exercise a right, and perform a duty....
i don't trust desantis to breath without having an ulterior motive...
and after the vote, who will be responsible for the security of the ballots? desantis' hand picked gestapo, who will just coincidentally all be trumptard republikkkans...well, how could anyone see the potential for corruption in that situation?
and who might be responsible for talking to election officials? again, desantis' hand picked secret police, and what chance that there will be cases of intimidation? that these hired goons will make it clear what their "Il duce" wants, and demands...

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

So if there is no fraud, then no one has a thing to worry about.

if there is no fraud, there's no need for jack booted security thugs to do desantis' bidding...

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

So if a cop or two would be at a democratic area, and there are a majority of democratic voters in line with me, how would that intimidate anyone?

If I was a straight party republican voter, which I'm not, and there was a democratic cop, which I would never knw he was a democrat. at the voting site, I would feel no level of intimidation if I was a registered voter that is breaking no law voting for opposition of the cop. Just saying.

With 21,000,000 people in Florida, a crew of 52 to investigate fraud. And do you really thing these 52 people could intimidate millions and millions of voters?

it's 52 now, and if you place a coupe of dozen at a couple of key polling places, then yes, they could definitely have a major influence on voter turnout..

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I would totally agree if the police officer had a sign that said "vote repub or else" Or the officer was arresting people after checking ballots to see who they voted for. But this is far from the case. This simple 52 people should not deter 1 single voters to make it to the polls or cast a vote.

If you can give me a shred of evidence, I would be interested to hear.

The only way I would be fearful of a cop at a polling site would be if I was doing something illegal and it would probably deter me from voting.

you're not a minotity who has spent their life avoiding contact with authorities, because as often as not, interaction with an authority figure leads to someone going to jail, and possibly dying on the trip there...
keep looking at the world through your eyes, with your perspective...what could go wrong ?

 

[OG-KGP]

you're not a minotity who has spent their life avoiding contact with authorities, because as often as not, interaction with an authority figure leads to someone going to jail, and possibly dying on the trip there...
keep looking at the world through your eyes, with your perspective...what could go wrong ?

I was locked up more than a dozen times and did over a year in Michigan state prison. I've been a victim of police brutality.. Try being 18, white, from a black neighborhood, and skinny in Michigan state reformatory. I got hate and abuse from all sides.

I grew up in low income section 8 predominantly black neighbor hood for the first 20 years of my life.

Let me tell you something I have leaned. Most of us sold drugs and committed crimes. That's why we feared the police.

I have since gotten my record expunged, worked hard, studied and have became successful in my own mind. I know longer fear the police because I have no reason to anymore.

I have brought with me a few people I grew up with that are black and they don't fear the police anymore either. We only did when we made bad choices.

I used to have a "poor me" attitude. Little did I know the only one keeping me down was myself.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I like DeSantis politics.

I like his freedom of choice on masks and schools. I like how he is hiring all the people who were fired in the more liberal states and giving these people a chance to further their careers even if they didn't want the jab.. I like that he loves the state and the people. Even the minorities like his conservative views. He is popular in Dade where most people are immigrants as well as the rich whites that live in mansions on the coast.

Never cared much for the loose trigger Donald. But would still argue that I liked his policies better than Hilary or Biden if I had to choose.

you like someone who picks up insane conspiracy theorists and puts them in positions of authority? why am i not surprised?..
he loves the state and it's people, if they're white republican people...

 

[OG-KGP]

you like someone who picks up insane conspiracy theorists and puts them in positions of authority? why am i not surprised?..
he loves the state and it's people, if they're white republican people...

What you fail to understand and respect is the others sides opinion. People voted for desantis and wanted his policies.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I was locked up more than a dozen times and did over a year in Michigan state prison. I've been a victim of police brutality.. Try being 18, white, from a black neighborhood, and skinny in Michigan state reformatory. I got hate and abuse from all sides.

I grew up in low income section 8 predominantly black neighbor hood for the first 20 years of my life.

Let me tell you something I have leaned. Most of us sold drugs and committed crimes. That's why we feared the police.

I have since gotten my record expunged, worked hard, studied and have became successful in my own mind. I know longer fear the police because I have no reason to anymore.

I have brought with me a few people I grew up with that are black and they don't fear the police anymore either. We only did when we made bad choices.

I used to have a "poor me" attitude. Little did I know the only one keeping me down was myself.

you are so full of shit you stink through my monitor...yeah, the problem with police/minority interactions is all because minorities are all criminals...has nothing to do with cops killing people who are already subdued, in custody...has nothing to do with statistics that say that you're 5 times more likely to get arrested in any given situation than a white person...and 5 times as likely to be convicted...if you make it to jail alive

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

What you fail to understand and respect is the others sides opinion. People voted for desantis and wanted his policies.

no offense...no...offense intended...florida is full of the dumbest fuckers in the entire country, i lived in tampa for 7 years, and was NOT impressed with the quality of resident...hateful redneck racists fucks, and this was 30 years ago...i don't imagine it's gotten any better...
if the fucking hateful racist idiots want a fucking hateful racist idiot to lead them, what can you do, but isolate them as much as possible and do as little business with them as possible?

 

[OG-KGP]

you are so full of shit you stink through my monitor...yeah, the problem with police/minority interactions is all because minorities are all criminals...has nothing to do with cops killing people who are already subdued, in custody...has nothing to do with statistics that say that you're 5 times more likely to get arrested in any given situation than a white person...and 5 times as likely to be convicted...

You all love to say I'm full of shit. I lived that life. I still have my MDOC ID card from when I did my time.

I know that almost all of my whole neighborhood, would steal at any given opportunity. Did or sold drugs. And that was the way of life and how I was raised and it was the most terrible mindset to ever have.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

You all love to say I'm full of shit. I lived that life. I still have my MDOC ID card from when I did my time.

I know that almost all of my whole neighborhood, would steal at any given opportunity. Did or sold drugs. And that was the way of life and how I was raised and it was the most terrible mindset to ever have.

i'd like to say i'm happy you rose above it, but you didn't rise above it, you just turned to a different kind of craziness, one that's even more insidious...you now want to enslave everyone who isn't like you, instead of just yourself...

 

[OG-KGP]

i'd like to say i'm happy you rose above it, but you didn't rise above it, you just turned to a different kind of craziness, one that's even more insidious...you now want to enslave everyone who isn't like you, instead of just yourself...

You are wrong, Sir. All I had to do was help myself and lose the victim mentality.

I had a few best friends in my younger years that were all black. One is a top dog at MTV that makes over 6 figures, another I worked with for over 20 years and is my right hand man at my company and makes a great salary.

All the others are dead or in prison. Their path was a combination of who they were when born, how they were raised, and what choices they made in life.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

You are wrong, Sir. All I had to do was help myself and lose the victim mentality.

I had a few best friends in my younger years that were all black. One is a top dog at MTV that makes over 6 figures, another I worked with for over 20 years and is my right hand man at my company and makes a great salary.

All the others are dead or in prison. Their path was a combination of who they were when born, how they were raised, and what choices they made in life.

oh, here comes the "black friend" shit...
"Their path was a combination of who they were when born, how they were raised, and what choices they made in life."
had nothing to do with systemic racism? had nothing to do with many cops being certifiably racist? had nothing to do with the media's depiction of minorities?
i won't say that people can't overcome their environment, many can and do, but they have to work much, much harder than any non minority person in roughly the same position...and for you to say that it's all their fault is a steaming pile of bullshit

 

[CatHedral]

You are wrong, Sir. All I had to do was help myself and lose the victim mentality.

I had a few best friends in my younger years that were all black. One is a top dog at MTV that makes over 6 figures, another I worked with for over 20 years and is my right hand man at my company and makes a great salary.

All the others are dead or in prison. Their path was a combination of who they were when born, how they were raised, and what choices they made in life.

This sounds an awful lot like the right wing in this country complaining that any sort of social support is “handouts” and thus fundamentally wrong. This is a pernicious attitude and one of the reasons the GOP is beyond salvage. It is too riddled with racism, sexism, greed and corruption. Break it up and hope the moderate residue organizes into a new center-right party that works with and not against most of us, and isn’t disfigured by a 160-year-old resentment.

 

[OG-KGP]

oh, here comes the "black friend" shit...
"Their path was a combination of who they were when born, how they were raised, and what choices they made in life."
had nothing to do with systemic racism? had nothing to do with many cops being certifiably racist? had nothing to do with the media's depiction of minorities?
i won't say that people can't overcome their environment, many can and do, but they have to work much, much harder than any non minority person in roughly the same position...and for you to say that it's all their fault is a steaming pile of bullshit

Bunch of bull.

Poor trailer trash whites made from inbred parents have it just as hard.

Race is a cheap excuse.