On the verge of giving up!!!!

Hollatchaboy

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And FYI this is one of marks plants ready for harvest.

At around? Day 55 or something.

This is his response about upper yellowing leaves.

When in real botany leaves with issues at the tops of the plant have an IMMOBILE NUTRIENT ISSUE



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very true Gnats can play havoc with plants if not dealt with.

however your pics appear to displaying a lack of Mg uptake. Not saying as to why. Could be gnats could be lockout, could be over feeding etc.

I’ve grown with Gnats before, good wet and dry cycles and sticky traps or you can get rid of them with BTi etc.
A gnat infestation that bad, would require the soil to be too moist. Most likely causing a ph imbalance. Could've locked out mg?
 

Hollatchaboy

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The pots are big enough, the plant needs more nitrogen.

In your next grow, switch from soil to coco and use a hydroponics fertilizer (made for coco or not, does not matter much). It's easier to control, and watering is easier too with coco.

Definitely too early to "give up growing" entirely. Soil + organics fert is more difficult to dial in than an inert medium (e.g. coco) and hydro fert.
I respectfully disagree. Get a few cycles of no till, in a large volume of soil, and it's a breeze.
 

ComputerSaysNo

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Get a few cycles of no till, in a large volume of soil, and it's a breeze.
Those are quite special circumstances for the average grower.

"Large volume of soil": usually not feasible unless outdoors or in a greenhouse.
"A few cycles": that would be at least a year of growing, then?

This is not "a breeze", it's awkward and a lot of work.

Dialing in a coco grow is easier, and you don't need tons of substrate and years of time.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Those are quite special circumstances for the average grower.

"Large volume of soil": usually not feasible unless outdoors or in a greenhouse.
"A few cycles": that would be at least a year of growing, then?

This is not "a breeze", it's awkward and a lot of work.

Dialing in a coco grow is easier, and you don't need tons of substrate and years of time.
Opinions vary.
 

Sunbiz1

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very true Gnats can play havoc with plants if not dealt with.

however your pics appear to displaying a lack of Mg uptake. Not saying as to why. Could be gnats could be lockout, could be over feeding etc.

I’ve grown with Gnats before, good wet and dry cycles and sticky traps or you can get rid of them with BTi etc.
It's my understanding an N lockout can be created by lack of Mg, which I resolved with Epsom salt; only this has to be flushed out prior to harvest.
Boy did I learn that one the hard way, as no amount of curing will improve the harsh flavor.
 

Herb & Suds

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It's my understanding an N lockout can be created by lack of Mg, which I resolved with Epsom salt; only this has to be flushed out prior to harvest.
Boy did I learn that one the hard way, as no amount of curing will improve the harsh flavor.
Flushing is for salt buildup and toilets
No flushing will make it taste better only proper drying and grow methods can do that
Bro science is nonsense
 

jondamon

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It's my understanding an N lockout can be created by lack of Mg, which I resolved with Epsom salt; only this has to be flushed out prior to harvest.
Boy did I learn that one the hard way, as no amount of curing will improve the harsh flavor.
Epsom salt needs to be flushed out?

I use Epsom salts to raise my levels of S during later flower until the plants finish.

S is responsible for helping terpenes and I don’t get harshness.

I fear something maybe a miss what happened there.
 

Sunbiz1

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Also I did start getting tip burn and slight clawing just before flower, so I assumed nitro toxicity, not sure if that is helpful
How often have you been watering?
And question 2, do you have airflow in between your canopy and the lighting fixture?.
Also, being American I had to covert your pot size...12L=3gal.
When I begin to have to water every 3 days, I know it's time to up size container.
However, I use 1200W HPS; and of course strength of lighting will cause evaporation rates to vary.
 

Herb & Suds

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I use fabric pots, and have transplanted up to 4 weeks in flower.
What are your temps/humidities in flower room?.
Am asking due to your smell(terpines)disappearing, heat will literally evaporate your oils.
I've been using nothing but Sunshine grow medium, and Epsoma plant tone for a decade; and the only time my plants look like yours is during summer months...when I'm fighting heat and running a dehumidifier.
You seem to be on a roll for spreading misinformation for such a longtime member
There is no benefit to transplanting four weeks into flower
You will get no root groth at that point
Waste of time
 

Sunbiz1

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Epsom salt needs to be flushed out?
YES!, or your buds will smell and taste horrible/harsh...and no amount of jar cure will fix it.
Salts and starches are your enemy in the end.
A week before chop, water as normal; wait until absorbed...then water again with same amount.
That's when your plants will turn yellow, and you'll find you'll hardly even need to cure the bud.
 

Sunbiz1

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You seem to be on a roll for spreading misinformation for such a longtime member
There is no benefit to transplanting four weeks into flower
You will get no root groth at that point
Waste of time
Bullshit, the OP's in a 3 gal...but I've actually created space and added medium in fabric to avoid transplants.
The rule is 1 gallon/month of growth in plastic...add 1 for fabric.
Now fuck off, thanks.
 

Herb & Suds

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YES!, or your buds will smell and taste horrible/harsh...and no amount of jar cure will fix it.
Salts and starches are your enemy in the end.
A week before chop, water as normal; wait until absorbed...then water again with same amount.
That's when your plants will turn yellow, and you'll find you'll hardly even need to cure the bud.
One
Epsom salts are not salt
2 I use it up to day of harvest and none of my buyers experience bad tasting weed
3 yellowing isn’t normal
 

ComputerSaysNo

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The rule is 1 gallon/month of growth in plastic...add 1 for fabric.
Oh, that's the "rule". Didn't know about that "rule".
Smells just a little bit like BS, though, that rule of yours.

With regards to transplanting 4 weeks into flower: completely useless, the plant is not developing roots any longer at this point.

Now fuck off, thanks.
Well you didn't talk to me, but as far as I'm concerned the person "to fuck off" is you, by way of the ignore button. Bye.
 
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