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Gemtree

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Any pictures or opinions on Shinobi GMO? Sorry if I missed it in another thread.
Yeah It's real nice fast veg and stacks nice. Didn't get many flower pics because the tops got heat stress since it stretches a lot but it's really sticky like those goopy glue trichs and reeks like garlic/gas. Chunky yet bit airy chem buds. Took it a little over 10 weeks but probably only 10 if not stressed. Pretty standard "garlic cookies" IMG_20220107_144054.jpg
 
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UpstateRecGrower

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Had an issue with Shinobi that I thought I should share with the community to help any potential future customers of his make a more informed decision about doing business with him. I purchased 3 clones off of him, he claims that he only sells and ships large clones that could actually be considered teens, and very well rooted. He mailed them on a Thursday with regular priority which is a huge no-no as anyone that ships clones can tell you, if you're going to chance clones with regular priority you have to send them in the beginning of the week, the people I typically deal with only ship express, 2 clone shippers fit into a $26 flat rate padded bag so it's a no brainer. The following Tuesday they arrive, 2 are dead and appear to have been dead for at least some time, the 3rd is barely standing up, sometimes I can save them when they're that beat up but it's hit or miss, by Tuesday evening it is dead. I told Shinobi and he requested pictures. OK, I get it you want proof, I mean I don't know what I'd have to gain by having you resend the same clones if they lived but ok I'll send you pictures dead clones that's fine. Took a couple days to get him to respond with a phone number I could text pictures to. He sees them and agrees that they are dead and he has some just coming out of the cloner. After asking several times over the course of several days when he anticipates on sending them he asks what clones needed replacing again. I tell him and he goes silent. 8 days go by, I message him on IG and although he didn't read my message he has been active. I text him and the iMessage says delivered so that means his phone is powered on, has service, and received my iMessages. He's added new auctions on Strainly as well during this timeframe. So on the 8th day I assume he doesn't want to bother with replacing the clones and it's easier to just keep my money, I sent the payment with the PayPal friends and family option so there isn't much I can do. I file a dispute anyways and in the notes I put down that it was an unauthorized transaction. One hour later he messages me back and tells me a storm came through and he's been without power and that he just got my messages, pretty big coincidence right? 8 days without hearing from him and he responds 1 hour after filing a dispute? lol ok. Anyway, the next day the dispute is closed, PayPal tells me they can't refund the transaction which I expected anyways. Now Shinobi tells me the money got yanked from his account and he can't send until he gets the money back after the dispute was closed out by PayPal. I show him screenshots showing that it is indeed closed and no refund was issued to me. He tells me he hasn't gotten the money back and that it could take a month for him to get the money back into his account and he's worried that if he sends the clones now that I will keep the money. Ok, so I tell him again the money was not refunded to me and the case is closed, he argues with me playing the victim card about the natural disaster and its not his fault he didn't have service and he thinks I'm going to screw him over. In reality he actually did have service because my iMessages went through as delivered and he was active on IG and new listings were listed on strainly. So now we are at the point where he's telling me the case is still open with PayPal (it definitely is not) the money was yanked from his account and now he has limitations (I highly doubt that as the case was closed in less than a day of me opening it) and he can't send me the clones because he's too afraid that I'm going to take the money and run (again impossible, the money was never refunded to me and the case is closed). So now knowing that I will never get these clones or my money I tell him to keep the clones and the money, it's more the principal to me than anything else $225 or whatever it was I don't even really care about.. So here's what really happened, He mailed out barely rooted clones the cheapest way he could, they came in dead, when I informed him about the dead clones he put me on the back burner and then eventually figured it was too much of a hassle and I can't leave bad feedback because I didn't buy them through strainly because I merely messaged him to buy them, so fuck it just keep my money, then when I disputed the transaction he came up with his little natural disaster story and acted all friendly, didn't mention the PayPal thing at all until after the case was closed, so after the case was closed now he can play hardball because he doesn't stand to lose any money and he tried to turn it around like I'm the shyster lol.
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gosabres716

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Had an issue with Shinobi that I thought I should share with the community to help any potential future customers of his make a more informed decision about doing business with him. I purchased 3 clones off of him, he claims that he only sells and ships large clones that could actually be considered teens, and very well rooted. He mailed them on a Thursday with regular priority which is a huge no-no as anyone that ships clones can tell you, if you're going to chance clones with regular priority you have to send them in the beginning of the week, the people I typically deal with only ship express, 2 clone shippers fit into a $26 flat rate padded bag so it's a no brainer. The following Tuesday they arrive, 2 are dead and appear to have been dead for at least some time, the 3rd is barely standing up, sometimes I can save them when they're that beat up but it's hit or miss, by Tuesday evening it is dead. I told Shinobi and he requested pictures. OK, I get it you want proof, I mean I don't know what I'd have to gain by having you resend the same clones if they lived but ok I'll send you pictures dead clones that's fine. Took a couple days to get him to respond with a phone number I could text pictures to. He sees them and agrees that they are dead and he has some just coming out of the cloner. After asking several times over the course of several days when he anticipates on sending them he asks what clones needed replacing again. I tell him and he goes silent. 8 days go by, I message him on IG and although he didn't read my message he has been active. I text him and the iMessage says delivered so that means his phone is powered on, has service, and received my iMessages. He's added new auctions on Strainly as well during this timeframe. So on the 8th day I assume he doesn't want to bother with replacing the clones and it's easier to just keep my money, I sent the payment with the PayPal friends and family option so there isn't much I can do. I file a dispute anyways and in the notes I put down that it was an unauthorized transaction. One hour later he messages me back and tells me a storm came through and he's been without power and that he just got my messages, pretty big coincidence right? 8 days without hearing from him and he responds 1 hour after filing a dispute? lol ok. Anyway, the next day the dispute is closed, PayPal tells me they can't refund the transaction which I expected anyways. Now Shinobi tells me the money got yanked from his account and he can't send until he gets the money back after the dispute was closed out by PayPal. I show him screenshots showing that it is indeed closed and no refund was issued to me. He tells me he hasn't gotten the money back and that it could take a month for him to get the money back into his account and he's worried that if he sends the clones now that I will keep the money. Ok, so I tell him again the money was not refunded to me and the case is closed, he argues with me playing the victim card about the natural disaster and its not his fault he didn't have service and he thinks I'm going to screw him over. In reality he actually did have service because my iMessages went through as delivered and he was active on IG and new listings were listed on strainly. So now we are at the point where he's telling me the case is still open with PayPal (it definitely is not) the money was yanked from his account and now he has limitations (I highly doubt that as the case was closed in less than a day of me opening it) and he can't send me the clones because he's too afraid that I'm going to take the money and run (again impossible, the money was never refunded to me and the case is closed). So now knowing that I will never get these clones or my money I tell him to keep the clones and the money, it's more the principal to me than anything else $225 or whatever it was I don't even really care about.. So here's what really happened, He mailed out barely rooted clones the cheapest way he could, they came in dead, when I informed him about the dead clones he put me on the back burner and then eventually figured it was too much of a hassle and I can't leave bad feedback because I didn't buy them through strainly because I merely messaged him to buy them, so fuck it just keep my money, then when I disputed the transaction he came up with his little natural disaster story and acted all friendly, didn't mention the PayPal thing at all until after the case was closed, so after the case was closed now he can play hardball because he doesn't stand to lose any money and he tried to turn it around like I'm the shyster lol.
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Did he even use heating packs?
I tried dealing with Shinobi but he's a full on flake.
If you're not overnighting in the winter you shouldn't be selling clones. Sorry that you're going through this. I'm sure strainly isn't helping you.
 

UpstateRecGrower

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Did he even use heating packs?
I tried dealing with Shinobi but he's a full on flake.
If you're not overnighting in the winter you shouldn't be selling clones. Sorry that you're going through this. I'm sure strainly isn't helping you.
Nope no heating packs. I actually recently received another clone that was mailed out with priority express but the post office still took 3 or 4 days (happens every now and then) and it was fine, it was well rooted and a decent size so that usually helps, package also contained a handful of unrooted snips that still look good but haven’t rooted yet since it’s only been I think 6 days or so.
 

Gemtree

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Nope no heating packs. I actually recently received another clone that was mailed out with priority express but the post office still took 3 or 4 days (happens every now and then) and it was fine, it was well rooted and a decent size so that usually helps, package also contained a handful of unrooted snips that still look good but haven’t rooted yet since it’s only been I think 6 days or so.
Kinda did the same with me but I was lucky it was spring and a nice temp. Talked to him over email and asked what's the damage. He said the price for the two listed and said shipping included. I figured it was a limited deal because he just started selling so sent him the money and he texts me back days later saying I still owe shipping. Told him he said it was included so he checked and said he guesses he did. Sent it priority instead of overnight and it took 5 days to get here. Figured they would be dead but they made it at least. Kinda pissed me off he would have rather risked dead clones then ask if priority was ok. I would have gladly paid for overnight but he said it was included.
 

gosabres716

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Nope no heating packs. I actually recently received another clone that was mailed out with priority express but the post office still took 3 or 4 days (happens every now and then) and it was fine, it was well rooted and a decent size so that usually helps, package also contained a handful of unrooted snips that still look good but haven’t rooted yet since it’s only been I think 6 days or so.
Yeah.. That's kinda what's been happening to me.. Like every 3rd package I send overnight Express gets delayed. But no excuse on his part to not weatherize the package.
 

Tangerine_

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Had an issue with Shinobi that I thought I should share with the community to help any potential future customers of his make a more informed decision about doing business with him. I purchased 3 clones off of him, he claims that he only sells and ships large clones that could actually be considered teens, and very well rooted. He mailed them on a Thursday with regular priority which is a huge no-no as anyone that ships clones can tell you, if you're going to chance clones with regular priority you have to send them in the beginning of the week, the people I typically deal with only ship express, 2 clone shippers fit into a $26 flat rate padded bag so it's a no brainer. The following Tuesday they arrive, 2 are dead and appear to have been dead for at least some time, the 3rd is barely standing up, sometimes I can save them when they're that beat up but it's hit or miss, by Tuesday evening it is dead. I told Shinobi and he requested pictures. OK, I get it you want proof, I mean I don't know what I'd have to gain by having you resend the same clones if they lived but ok I'll send you pictures dead clones that's fine. Took a couple days to get him to respond with a phone number I could text pictures to. He sees them and agrees that they are dead and he has some just coming out of the cloner. After asking several times over the course of several days when he anticipates on sending them he asks what clones needed replacing again. I tell him and he goes silent. 8 days go by, I message him on IG and although he didn't read my message he has been active. I text him and the iMessage says delivered so that means his phone is powered on, has service, and received my iMessages. He's added new auctions on Strainly as well during this timeframe. So on the 8th day I assume he doesn't want to bother with replacing the clones and it's easier to just keep my money, I sent the payment with the PayPal friends and family option so there isn't much I can do. I file a dispute anyways and in the notes I put down that it was an unauthorized transaction. One hour later he messages me back and tells me a storm came through and he's been without power and that he just got my messages, pretty big coincidence right? 8 days without hearing from him and he responds 1 hour after filing a dispute? lol ok. Anyway, the next day the dispute is closed, PayPal tells me they can't refund the transaction which I expected anyways. Now Shinobi tells me the money got yanked from his account and he can't send until he gets the money back after the dispute was closed out by PayPal. I show him screenshots showing that it is indeed closed and no refund was issued to me. He tells me he hasn't gotten the money back and that it could take a month for him to get the money back into his account and he's worried that if he sends the clones now that I will keep the money. Ok, so I tell him again the money was not refunded to me and the case is closed, he argues with me playing the victim card about the natural disaster and its not his fault he didn't have service and he thinks I'm going to screw him over. In reality he actually did have service because my iMessages went through as delivered and he was active on IG and new listings were listed on strainly. So now we are at the point where he's telling me the case is still open with PayPal (it definitely is not) the money was yanked from his account and now he has limitations (I highly doubt that as the case was closed in less than a day of me opening it) and he can't send me the clones because he's too afraid that I'm going to take the money and run (again impossible, the money was never refunded to me and the case is closed). So now knowing that I will never get these clones or my money I tell him to keep the clones and the money, it's more the principal to me than anything else $225 or whatever it was I don't even really care about.. So here's what really happened, He mailed out barely rooted clones the cheapest way he could, they came in dead, when I informed him about the dead clones he put me on the back burner and then eventually figured it was too much of a hassle and I can't leave bad feedback because I didn't buy them through strainly because I merely messaged him to buy them, so fuck it just keep my money, then when I disputed the transaction he came up with his little natural disaster story and acted all friendly, didn't mention the PayPal thing at all until after the case was closed, so after the case was closed now he can play hardball because he doesn't stand to lose any money and he tried to turn it around like I'm the shyster lol.
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I'm sorry this happen but I'm glad you've left a detailed timeline for other growers. I dont know whats so hard about shipping a healthy clone with express shipping.

I just filled two trays with cuts last week and I have a couple extra clone shippers.

Its super cold this week but the temps should come up by next week. Shoot me a pm. I might be able to at least take some of the sting out of this loss.
 

Seth Rich

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Kinda did the same with me but I was lucky it was spring and a nice temp. Talked to him over email and asked what's the damage. He said the price for the two listed and said shipping included. I figured it was a limited deal because he just started selling so sent him the money and he texts me back days later saying I still owe shipping. Told him he said it was included so he checked and said he guesses he did. Sent it priority instead of overnight and it took 5 days to get here. Figured they would be dead but they made it at least. Kinda pissed me off he would have rather risked dead clones then ask if priority was ok. I would have gladly paid for overnight but he said it was included.
Similar here, I had a great transaction with Shinobi about 2 years ago. Then, a couple months back I messaged about making another order through. It didn't have the same feel, almost like it was a different person altogether handling things. They tried the old postage bait and switch wording as though you would assume it would be overnighted, but when asked and pressed directly, Shinobi admitted it was going to be just regular express. So I thanked them for they're time and walked away from that business and have not looked back.

Is it possible that Shinobi got out of the business and also sold his 'Likeness' to an anonymous vendor?

Also, message me if you're in the midwest, i know of several great vendors out this way, thanks.
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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Anyone ever use these hand warmers?
Uniheat Shipping Warmer 40+ Hours (4pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YEX6MA/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_3D6ZMAV8YQS8JQ36145W?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Thinking about trying them out. Says they are good for tropical plants as well.
Those are the one's I use. Perfect for express shipping. I wrap it in a papertowel to give it some insulation then tape it right on my clone shipper where the roots are. Then wrap the whole thing in aluminum foil twice for insulation
 

gosabres716

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Those are the one's I use. Perfect for express shipping. I wrap it in a papertowel to give it some insulation then tape it right on my clone shipper where the roots are. Then wrap the whole thing in aluminum foil twice for insulation
Cool .I been using 18 hour hand warmers but with the mail being iffy I figured I give these a shot. And I pretty much do the same with the tin foil.
 

Tangerine_

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OG-KGP

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Not really Strainly but does anyone know anything about this cut?
Does it come in a solid gold clone shipper?

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Chimera #3 - Godzilla Clones




For this price, it better roll around in the bed with me or something...holy shit
Nice, beleafs chimera! Just like white truffle, you could probably snag it for a couple hundred bucks if you hold out a few months. If this is the real deal would be an expensive gamble.
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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Not really Strainly but does anyone know anything about this cut?
Does it come in a solid gold clone shipper?

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Chimera #3 - Godzilla Clones




For this price, it better roll around in the bed with me or something...holy shit
Hopefully it comes with four pounds to sample. I would rather spend 2k on a seed hunt and another 8k on equipment and come out with something new at that price range. Like it was said, the price will start to drop exponentially as people start getting the cut and competing to sell it.
 
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