How do I get them thick stems?

mudballs

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See this is where I’m off I think . I thought as I stated silica is responsible for thickening cell wall and fighting of disease and mold right makes sense” thick skin” but isn’t the biomass generated by N? I told you, relative noob
Cellulose is the primary substance found in plant cell walls and helps the plant to remain stiff and strong. Its building block glucose is a direct product of photosynthesis that captures carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

im seeing like 2 or 3 authors in here...im getting edgy and nervous of how this thread resolves
 

Killaki

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Im thinking about Plants like gangagurl's - that's the aim!
How do I get steaks that look like this? I want techniques that suit outdoor growing.


How she do dat?
I'm pretty sure it was her I saw a while back explain in a video she uses stem splitting which is why it looks like that. Any time you break a stem in any way it will grow a hard knuckle, repeat the process and it just gets bigger.
There's other factors here that play in of course like a healthy root system with enough room to support that sort of growth. I'm sure if you do some research on the subject you can find multiple way people are growing these monster outdoor plants.
 

jondamon

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The role of Potassium in plant health is well established.

You said "It’s the K in silica that aids the strengthening of the stems etc."

There is no Potassium in silica.

most silica nutrients on the market are potassium silicate.

it’s only the latest ones that are derived differently.
 

Danja-83

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On closer inspection that is bigger than first peek. Looks like a big slug of a base that does! Must have elephantisis in its genetics. That is the chewbacca phenotype .
 

Billy the Mountain

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most silica nutrients on the market are potassium silicate.

it’s only the latest ones that are derived differently.
Potassium Silicate at normal dosage provides a tiny amount of Potassium, negligible compared to what's in base nutes.
Armor Si @ 1ml/gal provides 9 ppm Potassium

How does monosilicic acid work without any Potassium at all?
 

jondamon

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Potassium Silicate at normal dosage provides a tiny amount of Potassium, negligible compared to what's in base nutes.
Armor Si @ 1ml/gal provides 9 ppm Potassium

How does monosilicic acid work without any Potassium at all?
Im not saying it does nothing but arguing that silica is the only reason a plant stem is strengthened is not the only reason as to why.

there are a lot more factors that go into it which K is most definitely a part of it.

personally I only use potassium silicate for pH up when I adjust too far down.

I haven’t tried mono silicic acid and don’t plan on buying any either. Lol.
 

Billy the Mountain

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I don't disagree regarding the role of Potassium.
I do think it's a mistake to attribute the benefits of silica to the trivial amount of Potassium that it may contain.
 

mudballs

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Im thinking about Plants like gangagurl's - that's the aim!
How do I get steaks that look like this? I want techniques that suit outdoor growing.


How she do dat?
She topped it and vegged for over 3 or 4 months is my guess..silica is not needed to make that knurly burly hulking mass of a trunk. gorgeous tho she may be, silica is not required. That's benefit of rootspace.
In fact i see less cellulose than normal, may have a silica defeciency showing in that pic
 

Hiphophippo

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I’ve seen those stem splitting videos supposedly a technic created by the Chinese and idk man it scares me. I think I’d kill them. usually with the stem sitting you get a knot where you split it I don’t see knots but more just serious growth.
 
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