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mooray

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I'd just like to see more of a focus on efficiency. Right now, the goal seems to be, "is there a way that I can still have my gluttonous oversized three ton vehicle, but electric, so I can post it on FB to make Nancy and Todd down the street jealous??".
 
doublejj

doublejj

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mooray said:
It's weird to promote the environmental aspects of tesla and then mock/dismiss Aptera. The conflict means that something in the formula is false.
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APTERA is only going to replace a small segment of transportation. We need solutions that will supplant a majority of transportation needs. Vehicles like Aptera will fill a small niche but will not get the general population off fossil fuels.
 
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mooray

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doublejj said:
APTERA is only going to replace a small segment of transportation. We need solutions that will supplant a majority of transportation needs. Vehicles like Aptera will fill a small niche but will not get the general population off fossil fuels.
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That won't be enough, because it doesn't address gluttony, so the problem that brought us here....remains. We need to rethink what we need.
 
Boatguy

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doublejj said:
APTERA is only going to replace a small segment of transportation. We need solutions that will supplant a majority of transportation needs. Vehicles like Aptera will fill a small niche but will not get the general population off fossil fuels.
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Vw, Ford are both offering e suv's in the us... Kinda defeats the purpose, but may help them get mainstream notice.
 
Budley Doright

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I’m thinking JJ is right as far as a niche market, to get into the mainstream its needs to offer a 4 seat option IMO but at the end of the day they seem to be the perfect daily commute car for singles and couples. A family of 3-4 would be at a huge disadvantage but a couple of more seats would solve that. I would buy one just for the cool/no gas aspect but would need to see some real world testing in Canadian winters and reliability :(.
 
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mooray

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Budley Doright said:
I’m thinking JJ is right as far as a niche market, to get into the mainstream its needs to offer a 4 seat option IMO but at the end of the day they seem to be the perfect daily commute car for singles and couples. A family of 3-4 would be at a huge disadvantage but a couple of more seats would solve that. I would buy one just for the cool/no gas aspect but would need to see some real world testing in Canadian winters and reliability :(.
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You also gotta figure, if you're able to buy a new electric anything, you can probably afford to keep a $5k camry on hand.
 
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mooray

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doublejj said:
as long as we subsidize the fossil fuel industry and penalize green energy, the change will be slow.
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The change is slow no matter what. Electric cars have been around for more than a century and yet today they makeup just 1% of all registered cars in the US. We're in the same area, so I'm sure you see what types of vehicles the average person drives in the foothills. Our newest vehicle is almost 20 years old, which means that 20 years after electric vehicles reach around 30% saturation on the used market, only then do they become a viable option for many, but of course who wants to buy a 20 year old electric vehicle that probably needs its third battery which costs $10k? The only way you reach the average person is through cheaper and more efficient vehicles, not the techno version of a hummer.
 
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