Examples of GOP Leadership

DIY-HP-LED

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I can't even imagine the shit that's gonna break loose in the MAGA camp and GOP in 2022 when Donald goes down in NY, freaking and lashing out as his day of doom approaches. We could see him convicted, in custody and awaiting sentencing in NY by election day in 2022. I figure madness on the right will ensue that will carry on far past election day and hopefully throw them into disarray with a part of the base staying home and a potion of it dead from covid and stupidity. Donald is and will continue to use the big lie to vacuum up the small donor money, donations that the house candidates depend on and the republican party is paying Trump's legal bills besides! With luck you could have a repeat of Georgia where trump fucked the republicans and he might do it again to get back at Mitch before he goes down.

I dunno if driving all this shit with the 1/6 panel and Trump's legal troubles into an election year will be helpful or not, but it can't hurt and the democrats need every advantage they can get. The republicans figure if the democrats win they will exterminate them, they aren't wrong about that part.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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trump would absolutely trash the republican party to save himself, he's never actually been a member of either party, the only party he belongs to is the trump party, he just used the republicans to get what he wanted. now that they can't help or won't help him anymore, he has no more loyalty to them than he does to the country, it's people, or it's constitution...they're all just tools to be used to get what he wants
the only good part of it is that it will indeed weaken the republicans position, and if it leads to the republicans dissolving into two or even three separate parties, so much the better for democrats, and democracy
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Donald vacuuming up sucker money from the GOP and perhaps committing mail and wire fraud over raising money based on the big stop the steal lie.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Republicans Hit Snags Deploying Gerrymandering Strategy To Strengthen Grip On Power

Kelly Burton, president of the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, talks about the effort to ensure fair voting district maps against Republicans keen to use redistricting to secure election outcomes.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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trump would absolutely trash the republican party to save himself, he's never actually been a member of either party, the only party he belongs to is the trump party, he just used the republicans to get what he wanted. now that they can't help or won't help him anymore, he has no more loyalty to them than he does to the country, it's people, or it's constitution...they're all just tools to be used to get what he wants
the only good part of it is that it will indeed weaken the republicans position, and if it leads to the republicans dissolving into two or even three separate parties, so much the better for democrats, and democracy
As long as Donald is leading them he will lead them into disaster and division, I have faith in Donald. I figure that's one reason for him running around loose and not indicted in NY and by the feds. He's looking at prison in NY by 2022 or 2023 at least and there can be little doubt about that. Garland will act against the planners and organizers of the insurrection, he has little choice in the matter really, once the 1/6 panel lays out the facts and issues an interim report by summer. I'm sure he knows NY will have Trump indicted by then and they can have clean hands as far as he's concerned, none of the base gives a fuck about the rest of the clowns going down. Donald will try to claim he's a political prisoner etc, if the feds do him first, they will wait until they get the key players to roll over on him when they figure they are fucked. The federal case against Trump will be something to see and will involve guys like Meadows and Rudy taking the stand against him, they will want him discredited, not just convicted.

Once Donald is gone or looks like he is, the fun will begin on the republican side and all out war might erupt among them, as they scramble for the brass ring in 2022. When Donald is gone Mitch will try to regain control of the party and smooth things over before the election, the dems want to give him as little time as possible after the shit storm that will erupt while Trump goes down. Margins are thin in many places and between covid, the insurrection and Trump, it could swing the difference. I figure covid will be largely a non issue by November, the economy is booming and unemployment is low, Ya might have a chance of keeping the house and increasing in the senate, at least I hope so.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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As long as Donald is leading them he will lead them into disaster and division, I have faith in Donald. I figure that's one reason for him running around loose and not indicted in NY and by the feds. He's looking at prison in NY by 2022 or 2023 at least and there can be little doubt about that. Garland will act against the planners and organizers of the insurrection, he has little choice in the matter really, once the 1/6 panel lays out the facts and issues an interim report by summer. I'm sure he knows NY will have Trump indicted by then and they can have clean hands as far as he's concerned, none of the base gives a fuck about the rest of the clowns going down. Donald will try to claim he's a political prisoner etc, if the feds do him first, they will wait until they get the key players to roll over on him when they figure they are fucked. The federal case against Trump will be something to see and will involve guys like Meadows and Rudy taking the stand against him, they will want him discredited, not just convicted.

Once Donald is gone or looks like he is, the fun will begin on the republican side and all out war might erupt among them, as they scramble for the brass ring in 2022. When Donald is gone Mitch will try to regain control of the party and smooth things over before the election, the dems want to give him as little time as possible after the shit storm that will erupt while Trump goes down. Margins are thin in many places and between covid, the insurrection and Trump, it could swing the difference. I figure covid will be largely a non issue by November, the economy is booming and unemployment is low, Ya might have a chance of keeping the house and increasing in the senate, at least I hope so.
i'm basically hoping the same thing, that the gerrymandering they tried backfires, as it looks like it might be doing. that the more extreme members of the "freedom caucus" drive away more voters than they attract. that trump continues to pillage the coffers, and divide the voter base...and that NY and the DOJ both move swiftly, decisively, and successfully, taking down the worst of the circus.
 

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Hogan, administration found using disappearing messaging app to communicate with staff
Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) and his administration were found to be using a messaging app that deletes messages after 24 hours, keeping his internal communications with staff members private and out of the state archives.

Messages from the end-to-end encryption app Wickr obtained by The Washington Post show Hogan talking about a wide range of topics, including the state's response to the pandemic, coordinating with staffers and complaining about media. Chat rooms used by Hogan were set to a timer called "Burn-on-Read" which deletes the messages after 24 hours, the Post reported, citing records.

Hogan spokesman Mike Ricci told the Post the governor uses the app to “have political and communications conversations with advisers, many of whom do not work for the state.” But the Post's reporting shows state employees who responded to Hogan's messages include his chief of staff and communications director.

The Post in November made a public records request for chatroom listings and messages from the governor and about two dozen of his staffers to confirm the use of Wickr and asked each individual to take "urgent and immediate" steps to preserve the records.

The governor's office then provided screenshots of the messages. While it did not deem the records as public, it provided them "in the interest of transparency," according to one of Hogan's government lawyers.

Maryland law requires that each level of state government retain its records on a schedule. The automatic deletion of messages by Hogan and members of his administration means it can never be determined whether the communications can be made public or be kept by the archives once he leaves office.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Hogan, administration found using disappearing messaging app to communicate with staff
Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) and his administration were found to be using a messaging app that deletes messages after 24 hours, keeping his internal communications with staff members private and out of the state archives.

Messages from the end-to-end encryption app Wickr obtained by The Washington Post show Hogan talking about a wide range of topics, including the state's response to the pandemic, coordinating with staffers and complaining about media. Chat rooms used by Hogan were set to a timer called "Burn-on-Read" which deletes the messages after 24 hours, the Post reported, citing records.

Hogan spokesman Mike Ricci told the Post the governor uses the app to “have political and communications conversations with advisers, many of whom do not work for the state.” But the Post's reporting shows state employees who responded to Hogan's messages include his chief of staff and communications director.

The Post in November made a public records request for chatroom listings and messages from the governor and about two dozen of his staffers to confirm the use of Wickr and asked each individual to take "urgent and immediate" steps to preserve the records.

The governor's office then provided screenshots of the messages. While it did not deem the records as public, it provided them "in the interest of transparency," according to one of Hogan's government lawyers.

Maryland law requires that each level of state government retain its records on a schedule. The automatic deletion of messages by Hogan and members of his administration means it can never be determined whether the communications can be made public or be kept by the archives once he leaves office.
motherfuckers with nothing to hide, hide nothing....
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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gosar, greene, gaetz, and boebert....sounds like a very disreputable legal firm "when you've been accused of murdering three people at a riot you never should have been at, when you've stormed the capitol, attacked capitol police and threatened the life of the vice president, when your attempted coup has failed...call gosar, greene, gaetz, and boebert. we'll be proud to represent you, boy."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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it's easy to make it appear you're a reasonable person doing good work when you are being compared to gosar, greene, gaetz, boebert...
Anybody who is still a member of the GOP and tries to get them into power has no honor or patriotism, they put party before country. Hogan appears to be one of the more responsible ones, but remember who he's in bed with and that makes him unfit. It makes all republicans with a few exceptions unfit and those exceptions are on the 1/6 committee and won't be republican congress people after they are primaried. However by the time primary season arrives in 2022, Trump will have legal issues taking up all his time, money and attention, as he tries to keep his ass out of the slammer. Trump could even be convicted in NY by primary season and in custody awaiting sentencing, these kind of trials don't usually take that long and plenty of rich and powerful people have been nailed by these folks before. They might take him, his family and business out under NY anti racketeering laws, their version of RICO before the election. I wouldn't expect any federal charges against Trump until NY is done with him, it will hardly matter when they get around to it, because Donald will be in a NY cell anyway.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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gosar, greene, gaetz, and boebert....sounds like a very disreputable legal firm "when you've been accused of murdering three people at a riot you never should have been at, when you've stormed the capitol, attacked capitol police and threatened the life of the vice president, when your attempted coup has failed...call gosar, greene, gaetz, and boebert. we'll be proud to represent you, boy."
'It's crazy': GOP governor responds to polls of GOP voters

Republican Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland discusses polling that shows that an overwhelming majority of Republican voters believe the former President Trump's election lies.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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'It's crazy': GOP governor responds to polls of GOP voters

Republican Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland discusses polling that shows that an overwhelming majority of Republican voters believe the former President Trump's election lies.
so there you have it, black and white proof that the overwhelming majority of republican voters in Maryland are fucking stupid...and yet, they are allowed to vote...
but that's alright...republicans in general are already a minority, so the majority of the stupidest minority is...stupid... :lol:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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so there you have it, black and white proof that the overwhelming majority of republican voters in Maryland are fucking stupid...and yet, they are allowed to vote...
but that's alright...republicans in general are already a minority, so the majority of the stupidest minority is...stupid... :lol:
The guy is like a dinosaur before the meteorite hit, he's finished in the republican party. He seems reasonable and that will drive the base insane, I'm sure his phone is ringing off the hook with death threats.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/02/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter-suspension/index.html

too little, too late...but still fucking hilarious
shit's starting to change, and it ain't gonna go well for the whitehate crowd
If the democrats win enough of a majority in the house and senate, most people will have no idea how much things will change for these assholes. There will be no difference between a domestic terrorist and a middle eastern one, that means more powers of surveillance and other methods not normally used against these assholes. There will be a domestic terrorist watch list and anybody on it won't own a gun or fly on a plane. It will be harder to make anonymous death threats, easier to get caught and mandatory minimums for when they do get caught, a bit of technical effort could stop this shit. Most importantly, social media and cable and will be regulated by the FCC, who will have a new mandate and powers, the fuckers who whip up these morons and feed them bullshit will be dealt with. I figure voting rights and election laws should pretty much take care of them in the coming years as their base vomits up lunatic candidates.

Ya just need to win in November for a better future and America, the democrats could drive all the above and more through in 6 months, if the majority is big enough, especially in the senate.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There are reasons why the republicans are squirming about 1/6 other than some of them being prosecuted. They, their media partners and base all tried to shift the blame and dissemble about the severity of the attack on the Capitol. They instinctively know that this will not play well with most Americans, aside from what the polls say. It was a singular event that reduced their support significantly and tens of thousands left the party over it.

The 1/6 panel moved the public drama of the insurrection to the new year and a new news cycle where it will be replayed and kept fresh in the public eye all spring, summer and probably fall. There are and will be court cases squeal deals and guilty pleas coming this year, all will help to keep the memories and feelings fresh up to November. Then there's Trump and his approaching legal crises and the ensuing panic and freaking out as he goes down in NY. So 2022 should be an eventful year in the congressional investigation and in the courts, let's hope it makes a difference in November.

The way it works is republicans will eagerly go to war over illegally retaining power and to install a corrupt King, while democrats will go to war to defend democracy and the constitution.
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