Examples of GOP Leadership

Budzbuddha

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WASHINGTON (AP) — A judge Thursday rejected a motion by Fox News to dismiss a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit brought against the cable news giant by Dominion Voting Systems over claims about the 2020 presidential election.

In the 52-page ruling Delaware Superior Court Judge Eric Davis said that the voting-machine company had shown that “At this stage, it is reasonably conceivable that Dominion has a claim for defamation per se.”

Denver-based Dominion filed a lawsuit earlier this year against the media organization alleging that some Fox News employees elevated false charges that Dominion had changed votes in the 2020 election through algorithms in its voting machines that had been created in Venezuela to rig elections for the late dictator Hugo Chavez. On-air personalities brought on Trump allies who spread the claims, and then amplified those claims on Fox News’ social-media platforms.


In denying the motion to dismiss the lawsuit Davis said that Dominion’s complaint “supports the reasonable inference that Fox either (i) knew its statements about Dominion’s role in election fraud were false or (ii) had a high degree of awareness that the statements were false.”

Davis said that “Fox possessed countervailing evidence of election fraud from the Department of Justice, election experts, and Dominion at the time it had been making its statements. The fact that, despite this evidence, Fox continued to publish its allegations against Dominion, suggests Fox knew the allegations were probably false.”

The judge also wrote that despite emails from Dominion attempting to factually address Fox’s fraud allegations, Fox and its news personnel continued to report Dominion’s “purported connection to the election fraud claims without also reporting on Dominion’s emails.”

“Given that Fox apparently refused to report contrary evidence … the Complaint’s allegations support the reasonable inference that Fox intended to keep Dominion’s side of the story out of the narrative.”

Fox News Media said in a statement: “As we have maintained, Fox News, along with every single news organization across the country, vigorously covered the breaking news surrounding the unprecedented 2020 election, providing full context of every story with in-depth reporting and clear-cut analysis. We remain committed to defending against this baseless lawsuit and its all-out assault on the First Amendment.”

Waaaaaah Waaaaaah …..

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Roger A. Shrubber

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dammit beat me again! :cuss:
you know...i wonder if it ever occurs to fucker carlson that he has children, who will one day watch this shit on youtube, and know that their father spread hateful lies and disinformation, contributed to many, many deaths from covid, contributed to insurrectionist, called the grieving parents of children killed in school shooting liars and actors, called murderers heroes, and heroes murderers? or will he brainwash them so thoroughly that they will actually believe the horseshit he only pretends to believe? which will be worse?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There must be HUGE amounts of bigotry among the white population of America, in a normal country the republicans would have barely registered in the polls after the recent history. Let's hope Donald keeps being Donald and running around lose for a spell, as soon as he's gone, they can get better at their regular con, it's the same as Donald's, only subtler. Donald wanted to bludgeon democracy to death, while republicans want to slowly and quietly strangle it.
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DIY-HP-LED

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I love this story, it could portend a split in the republican party, we will have to see how Donald reacts to this latest salvo from Mitch. Donald is going down is desperate and figures he needs power and money to survive, as he gets closer to prison, Mitch and other republicans will grow bolder. Donald is gonna panic when the indictments drop and will freak and lash out, he might even run to Russia, if he can, it's the only way out.
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Mitch McConnell Changes His Tune On The Jan. 6 Committee

After railing against the formation of the Jan. 6 committee back in May, Sen. Mitch McConnell now says the committee’s findings are something the public needs to know. We discuss with Don Calloway and Tim Miller.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ya know, Mitch actually speaks what many republicans are thinking, they are interested in who was involved and what happened and many will be tuning in. The unfolding dramatic story will draw them in, just like it will draw in patriots, people don't learn from facts, they learn the most by listening to stories. The committee will write the narrative of the insurrection and the courts will deal with the aftermath. Mitch will sit back with a bag of popcorn like the rest and see who was involved, he already knows, I'm sure Liz Cheney is keeping him fully informed.
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Trump Vs. McConnell

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell showed support for the January 6th Select Committee’s ongoing investigation. That’s happening as Donald Trump appears to be failing in his effort to get Republicans behind removing McConnell from Senate leadership. David Jolly joins to discuss.
 

canndo

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Just an opinion piece but with some useful observations.

GOP becoming a cult of know-nothings
The Republican Party is becoming a cult. Its leaders are in thrall to Donald Trump, a defeated former president who refuses to acknowledge defeat. Its ideology is MAGA, Trump’s deeply divisive take on what Republicans assume to be unifying American values.

The party is now in the process of carrying out purges of heretics who do not worship Trump or accept all the tenets of MAGA. Conformity is enforced by social media, a relatively new institution with the power to marshal populist energy against critics and opponents.

What’s happening on the right in American politics is not exactly new. To understand it, you need to read a book published 50 years ago by Seymour Martin Lipset and Earl Raab, "The Politics of Unreason: Right-Wing Extremism in America, 1790-1970." Right-wing extremism, now embodied in Trump’s MAGA movement, dates back to the earliest days of the country.

The title of Lipset and Raab’s book was chosen carefully. Right-wing extremism is not about the rational calculation of interests. It’s about irrational impulses, which the authors identify as “status frustrations.” They write that “the political movements which have successfully appealed to status resentments have been irrational in character. [The movements] focus on attacking a scapegoat, which conveniently symbolizes the threat perceived by their supporters.”

The most common scapegoats have been minority ethnic or religious groups. In the 19th century, that meant Catholics, immigrants and even Freemasons. The Anti-Masonic Party, the Know Nothing Party and later the American Protective Association were major political forces. In the 20th century, the U.S. experienced waves of anti-immigrant sentiment. After World War II, anti-communism became the driving force behind McCarthyism in the 1950s and the Goldwater movement in the early 1960s (“Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice”).

The roots of the current right-wing extremism lie in the late 1960s and 1970s, when Americans began to be polarized over values (race, ethnicity, sex, military intervention). Conflicts of interest (such as business versus labor) can be negotiated and compromised. Conflicts of values cannot.

You see “the politics of unreason” in today’s right-wing extremism. While it remains true, as it has been for decades, that the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to vote Republican (that’s interests), what’s new today is that the better educated you are, the more likely you are to vote Democratic, at least among whites (that’s values, and it’s been driving white suburban voters with college degrees away from Trump’s “know-nothing” brand of Republicanism).

Oddly, religion has become a major force driving the current wave of right-wing extremism. Not religious affiliation (Protestant versus Catholic) but religiosity (regular churchgoers versus non-churchgoers). That’s not because of Trump’s religious appeal (he has none) but because of the Democratic Party’s embrace of secularism and the resulting estrangement of fundamentalist Protestants, observant Catholics and even orthodox Jews.

The Democratic Party today is defined by its commitment to diversity and inclusion. The party celebrates diversity in all its forms — racial, ethnic, religious and sexual. To Democrats, that’s the tradition of American pluralism — “E pluribus unum.” Republicans celebrate the “unum” more than the “pluribus” — we may come from diverse backgrounds, but we should all share the same “American values.”

One reason right-wing extremism is thriving in the Republican Party is that there is no figure in the party willing to lead the opposition to it. Polls of Republican voters show no other GOP figure even close to Trump’s level of support for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination. The only other Republican who seems interested in running is Gov. Larry Hogan of Maryland, who recently criticized “Trump cancel culture.”

If Trump does run in 2024, as he seems inclined to do, can he win?

It all depends on President Biden’s record. Right now, Biden’s popularity is not very high. In fact, Biden and Trump are about equally unpopular (Biden’s job approval is 52 to 43 percent negative, while Trump’s favorability is 54 to 41.5 percent negative). Biden will be 82 years old in 2024. If he doesn’t run, the Democrats will very likely nominate Vice President Harris. When a president doesn’t run for reelection, his party almost always nominates its most recent vice president, assuming they run (Richard Nixon in 1960, Hubert Humphrey in 1968, Walter Mondale in 1984, George H.W. Bush in 1988, Al Gore in 2000, Joe Biden in 2020). Democrats would be unlikely to deny a black woman the nomination. There is also some talk of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg running if Biden doesn’t.

The 2024 election could be a rematch between Trump and Biden. Or a race between Trump and a black woman. Or between Trump and a gay man with a husband and children. Lee Drutman, a political scientist at the New America think tank, recently told The New York Times, “I have a hard time seeing how we have a peaceful 2024 election after everything that’s happened now. I don’t see the rhetoric turning down. I don’t see the conflicts going away. ... It’s hard to see how it gets better before it gets worse.”
"Have become"? Lately?

No.

The gop has long been a collection of purposefully ignorant scientifically illiterate rabble.

Women cannot involuntarily be raped, blacks are on the inferior side if the bell curve, universities brainwash students, the earth is 6000 years old, the grand canyon is the result of the great biblical deluge, we must temper "darwinism" with biblical dogma, the earth isn't warming, wait, it is but we didn't do it, climate ALWAYS changes.

Crude oil is renewable, electric cars will never be powerful, liberals are driven by emotion but conservatives inhabit the land of pure reason. Supply side economics works, government can never be a source of help for citizens, regulation is always bad, the domino theory, Russia has more misses than the u.s. radiation is not a problem, rachael Carson killed millions of children. Character matters, school prayer is essential, the 2nd amendment defends all the others, they have wmd, fight there so they don't come here, caravans of brown people are massing our borders..

No, the gop has a long history of ...belief.
 

Budzbuddha

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Pant Shittin Time …… :bigjoint:


Fox News’ Sean Hannity announced Thursday he’d be off the air until 2022, days after bombshell revelations about a private text message he sent then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows during the storming of the U.S. Capitol.

“I’m coming back ready for a political fight,” vowed the Trump apologist, who in his Jan. 6 text to Meadows urged him to get then-President Donald Trump to call off the violent mob of his supporters.

“On vacation, I try to center myself, find God, and then get my creative juices flowing, and I already know where I’m headed,” Hannity told Ingraham. “I know next year is the biggest most important midterm election year in our lives and I’m going to be focused like a laser beam.”

Riiiiggghhhttt ………..

While going on holiday ahead of the festive season is normal, Twitter users noted how personalities on the network have a history of getting into hot water and then taking time off.


 

schuylaar

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you know...i wonder if it ever occurs to fucker carlson that he has children, who will one day watch this shit on youtube, and know that their father spread hateful lies and disinformation, contributed to many, many deaths from covid, contributed to insurrectionist, called the grieving parents of children killed in school shooting liars and actors, called murderers heroes, and heroes murderers? or will he brainwash them so thoroughly that they will actually believe the horseshit he only pretends to believe? which will be worse?
i think about it all the time. we can look to our current children of the infamous with accurate precision right now.

Bernie Madoff both adult sons committed suicide.
Rudy Giuliani his son is MAGAT his daughter has spoken out painfully against her father actions several times.
Infowars Nut son is a MAGAT and following in dad's footsteps.
DJT Jr is well know to hate his father.

on a personal level:
My children are split one is a MAGAT (police officer dad) and one tried to organize at Trader Joe's and got termed (Progressive mom).

C'est la vie.
 

harris hawk

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talking politics and religion is a NO gainer ---In all reality we are all sheep following Social Media and the News - we should concern ourselves in treating all people with respect (no matter what color, sex or country) --we have lost respect of everything and everybody including ourselves (Build the Wall)
 

schuylaar

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talking politics and religion is a NO gainer ---In all reality we are all sheep following Social Media and the News - we should concern ourselves in treating all people with respect (no matter what color, sex or country) --we have lost respect of everything and everybody including ourselves (Build the Wall)
then don't come to this forum- it says POLITICS.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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talking politics and religion is a NO gainer ---In all reality we are all sheep following Social Media and the News - we should concern ourselves in treating all people with respect (no matter what color, sex or country) --we have lost respect of everything and everybody including ourselves (Build the Wall)
It ain't politics, it's cold civil war and the fight is liberalism vs Trump fascism and a death cult of personality. Grab your shovel, head south and start in or donate to the new fund Steve Bannon will start to build one. People who support the republicans are traitors to the nation and constitution, 1/6 proved it beyond all doubt, so did climbing into bed with the Russians to cheat the election.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/19/politics/joe-manchin-build-back-better/index.html

why doesn't this fucking weasel just join the fucking republikkkans and quit pretending to be a democrat? he's done as much or more damage to the administration as any fucking republican, except maybe sinema, who isn't a democrat either, and since we really only have two parties, that sort of makes both of them fucking republicans, from my perspective. manchin is so fucking transparent, all he wants is to protect his coal money, and the money of his masters, the fossil fuel industry, and he's willing to fuck the entire world to get what he wants. Bernie is right, force the vote, televise it internationally, and make the fucker vote no in front of the entire planet, so everyone will know exactly what he is, a fake democrat and a real republikkkan, and a slave to his owners....
 
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