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TheRealNG

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Hey all, I’ve been growing for about a year now and this is the first time I’ve run into it so I figured I’d ask.

I’ve got 2 mac n’ cheese plants I switched over to flower about 2 1/2 weeks ago.
mine plant is starting to show signs of buds but the other is still stretching quite a bit. Is that normal? Just a phenotype maybe?
both are grown the same conditions but in separate tents. I’ll include some pics.
Medium is coco and feeding with a 3 part bottle.
42-45%humidity
25-27 degrees C

The plant flowering quicker split at the stalk about 1 week into flower as I was trying to tie it down but was a little too rough. Could that impact it? I’d think it would slow growth if anything. Thanks!
(I also understand the larger plant could have been trimmeed
 

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Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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That split looks rough. Could cause you problems later. Grafting tape helps heal wounds keeps the air off it and it'll actually grow around itself and knuckle
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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If from seed then welcome to the world of phenos. Not uncommon at all for a strain to present as a pheno with characteristics of one of the parents more than the other.

Don't tape splits. Never ever put honey on them. This was a high stress incident it will recover from and probably will produce more THC as a result. Just use a twistie for a few days and then remove even that.
 
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TheRealNG

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hotrodharley said:
If from seed then welcome to the world of phenos. Not uncommon at all for a strain to present as a pheno with characteristics of one of the parents more than the other.

Don't tape splits. Never ever put honey on them. This was a high stress incident it will recover from and probably will produce more THC as a result. Just use a twistie for a few days and then remove even that.
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What is your reasoning behind not taping it or anything?
 
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TheRealNG

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hotrodharley said:
Because it doesn't need it. Let it heal like it is wind damage outside. But knock yourself out if you're one who doesn't believe it until you do it.
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I certainly believe in others information/knowledge before Trying things myself as I hate wasting time/energy. Ultimately I think I may leave it as it is very strong right now and showing no signs of damage. Is there chance for the split to worsen as buds start to develope?

oh and ty. Been lots of ups and downs but I’ve realized that this whole world of growing is actually very fun and exciting
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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TheRealNG said:
I certainly believe in others information/knowledge before Trying things myself as I hate wasting time/energy. Ultimately I think I may leave it as it is very strong right now and showing no signs of damage. Is there chance for the split to worsen as buds start to develope?

oh and ty. Been lots of ups and downs but I’ve realized that this whole world of growing is actually very fun and exciting
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You've heard of stress increasing THC? This is simply a high stress incident. I've split or broken all kinds of strains topping and supercropping. Unless it's just hanging by the thread I don't do anything for the damage. If hanging a twistie for a few days. I've forgotten those and found the stem overgrown completely around it.
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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hotrodharley said:
If from seed then welcome to the world of phenos. Not uncommon at all for a strain to present as a pheno with characteristics of one of the parents more than the other.

Don't tape splits. Never ever put honey on them. This was a high stress incident it will recover from and probably will produce more THC as a result. Just use a twistie for a few days and then remove even that.
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This was hanging by a few threads. Grafting tape and left it all season. Without tape it would have been dried up and dead.
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With a split like that any kind of movement can cause that to break again and fuck your shit.
 
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TheRealNG

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hotrodharley said:
You've heard of stress increasing THC? This is simply a high stress incident. I've split or broken all kinds of strains topping and supercropping. Unless it's just hanging by the thread I don't do anything for the damage. If hanging a twistie for a few days. I've forgotten those and found the stem overgrown completely around it.
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That’s very interesting. I am looking forward to how it matures.
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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hotrodharley said:
You've heard of stress increasing THC? This is simply a high stress incident. I've split or broken all kinds of strains topping and supercropping. Unless it's just hanging by the thread I don't do anything for the damage. If hanging a twistie for a few days. I've forgotten those and found the stem overgrown completely around it.
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I just found if the split heals like that in ops pic it's easily split again. With the weight of full flowers on it could.cause it to break again. Leaving it open for infection etc. I duno. I lean towards the safe side. Had to cut off branches before that didn't heal properly and it's a big waste. Your arm will heal without a cast but better with one
 
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TheRealNG

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Just out of curiosity what would be the cons of wrapping?
I noticed the previous ties I had on dug into the stem overtime even though they weren’t on super tight.
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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TheRealNG said:
Just out of curiosity what would be the cons of wrapping?
I noticed the previous ties I had on dug into the stem overtime even though they weren’t on super tight.
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There is not con to wrapping. Just use grafting tape. You don't even need to take it off it will stretch. Sometimes people get stuck into the way they do things and don't like to vary. Me included. If that works for @hotrodharley then cool. He's not wrong. Neither am I. Just diff ways to do the same thing. I'm just trying to offer my experience and if my plants had a split like that I'd wrap it. That's all.
I just find the wrap keeps it from drying out the split so the entire thing heals into itself instead of turning to bark. The plant grows an enormous solid knuckle like a burl on a tree with no open spots.
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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hotrodharley said:
There will be a callous that forms. A knuckle. It will be stronger than the stem on either side of it.
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I really push mine down as low as I can and end up splitting them often. In fact I just wrapped one the other night that split real bad under the pressure of the bend (made a T ) and taped her back together with the bend still in. I'll take a shot later. It didnt even wilt or skip a beat. Without the tape I'm sure I would have walked into a droopy arm the next day
 
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