Anyone else watching the Kyle Rittenhouse trial?

[BodegaBud]

Do you clowns realize that calling somebody who actually is racist a “ Racist” doesn’t really offend them? It only offends people who are not racists when you call them that because they aren’t.

 

[CatHedral]

Do you clowns realize that calling somebody who actually is racist a “ Racist” doesn’t really offend them? It only offends people who are not racists when you call them that because they aren’t.

This is tellingly incorrect.

 

[hanimmal]

Do you clowns realize that calling somebody who actually is racist a “ Racist” doesn’t really offend them? It only offends people who are not racists when you call them that because they aren’t.

It just means that they are saying racist shit and are so brainwashed by what they are seeing pushed by online/TV/Hate Radio/etc hate mongering propaganda trolls that is a really really fucked up level of racism, that they don't realize that they are indeed also racist, just of the "I am not racist, but" variety.

 

[BodegaBud]

This is tellingly incorrect.

If somebody is racist why would they care? That’s like trying to call somebody a gangbanger or redneck. It’s only an insult if they aren’t

 

[Herb & Suds]

If somebody is racist why would they care? That’s like trying to call somebody a gangbanger or redneck. It’s only an insult if they aren’t

Or if the believe they aren’t and can’t realize they are

 

[CatHedral]

If somebody is racist why would they care? That’s like trying to call somebody a gangbanger or redneck. It’s only an insult if they aren’t

You dismiss the real phenomenon of defensive racists.
And your doctrine on when it is or isn’t an insult is, to put it most kindly, opaque.

 

[BodegaBud]

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It just means that they are saying racist shit and are so brainwashed by what they are seeing pushed by online/TV/Hate Radio/etc hate mongering propaganda trolls that is a really really fucked up level of racism, that they don't realize that they are indeed also racist, just of the "I am not racist, but" variety.

That means they are saying something that you don’t agree with and it’s the easiest way to shut them down. I’m friends with a black woman that is very conservative. You guys without seeing her would be accusing her of all the same crap that you accused me of only worse because she is very far right,

 

[BodegaBud]

Or if the believe they aren’t and can’t realize they are

So now you can read people’s minds and tell them how they feel?

 

[CatHedral]

That means they are saying something that you don’t agree with and it’s the easiest way to shut them down. I’m friends with a black woman that is very conservative. You guys without seeing her would be accusing her of all the same crap that you accused me of only worse because she is very far right,

If she were not very far right you would never have seen her.

 

[Herb & Suds]

That means they are saying something that you don’t agree with and it’s the easiest way to shut them down. I’m friends with a black woman that is very conservative. You guys without seeing her would be accusing her of all the same crap that you accused me of only worse because she is very far right,

I know you just didn’t use the I have black friends line?

 

[Herb & Suds]

So now you can read people’s minds and tell them how they feel?

I’m a good judge of character or lack there of in this case

 

[BodegaBud]

You dismiss the real phenomenon of defensive racists.
And your doctrine on when it is or isn’t an insult is, to put it most kindly, opaque.

So if they really are racist why would they care if you called them that? Folks usually are proud to be what they are regardless of what it is. Being called something you aren’t is insulting

 

[CatHedral]

So now you can read people’s minds and tell them how they feel?

Why do you keep misstating people in a plain bid to anger them into some sort of intemperate response you can then exploit? Doesn’t that shout dishonesty? I mean doesn’t it?

 

[hanimmal]

That means they are saying something that you don’t agree with and it’s the easiest way to shut them down. I’m friends with a black woman that is very conservative. You guys without seeing her would be accusing her of all the same crap that you accused me of only worse because she is very far right,

No it isn't.

Maybe she is racist towards asian people, Muslims, Mexicans, fallen for the racist propaganda that 'Christians' push about abortions to trick them into thinking that the Democrats kill black babies, etc.

You are an idiot, and calling people racist when they are being racist and them being offended because they are programmed to trigger by the right wing propaganda trolls doesn't make it not true.

So if they really are racist why would they care if you called them that? Folks usually are proud to be what they are regardless of what it is. Being called something you aren’t is insulting

 

[BodegaBud]

I know you just didn’t use the I have black friends line?

No I pointed out how your labeling people based upon their beliefs is bullshit and gave an example.

 

[CatHedral]

So if they really are racist why would they care if you called them that? Folks usually are proud to be what they are regardless of what it is. Being called something you aren’t is insulting

Being called something that you are, but have an interest in denying, is more so. It is also a direct threat because racism deniers tend to have interesting skeleta in previously unsearched closets.

 

[BodegaBud]

No it isn't.

Maybe she is racist towards asian people, Muslims, Mexicans, fallen for the racist propaganda that 'Christians' push about abortions to trick them into thinking that the Democrats kill black babies, etc.

You are an idiot, and calling people racist when they are being racist and them being offended because they are programmed to trigger by the right wing propaganda trolls doesn't make it not true.


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It doesn’t make it so either. Maybe focus on being you and quit trying to accuse others of shit they don’t feel or spinning shit they didn’t say

 

[CunningCanuk]

You know what the problem is with people these days? They don’t live and let live. You can’t change people and how they think by arguing they have to be willing to change. Back in the day if somebody was racist we might try to interject something like “ Well there are good and bad people regardless of what they look like.” But in time either those kind of people realized how damaging hate is or they turned into bitter and wrinkled individuals that nobody wanted to be around. This whole getting in people’s faces and shouting them down just makes things worse.

 

[BodegaBud]

Being called something that you are, but have an interest in denying, is more so. It is also a direct threat because racism deniers tend to have interesting skeleta in previously unsearched closets.

Just work on you and quit trying to fix the world. You don’t know what people feel

 

[hanimmal]

It doesn’t make it so either. Maybe focus on being you and quit trying to accuse others of shit they don’t feel or spinning shit they didn’t say

lol like you sticking up for fascism?

Just work on you and quit trying to fix the world. You don’t know what people feel

Of course not. Well, not unless you are one of the people working for the dictators that have the computational power to spit out the data analysis on everyone's internet history to get a real time understanding of their deepest darkest feelings that they likely don't even understand about themselves.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-internet-knows-you-better-than-your-spouse-does/

• Users’ digital footprints disclose certain preferences and characteristics, such as their personality or mood.
• Companies are very interested in such data. Automated language analysis is already being used in the hiring of personnel. And advertising seems to be more successful when its message is adapted to the personality or mood of the customer.
• These technological advances open opportunities not only for commerce but for public health. Among those possibilities: smartphone apps may in the future recognize when a bipolar patient is slipping into a depressive phase and can inform the person’s physician.
• But the technology poses risks. Unless it is managed carefully and ethically, it can invade privacy.

If you enjoy computerized personality tests, you might consider visiting Apply Magic Sauce (https://applymagicsauce.com). The Web site prompts you to enter some text you have written—such as e-mails or blogs—along with information about your activities on social media. You do not have to provide social media data, but if you want to do it, you either allow Apply Magic Sauce to access your Facebook and Twitter accounts or follow directions for uploading selected data from those sources, such as your history of pressing Facebook’s “like” buttons. Once you click “Make Prediction,” you will see a detailed psychogram, or personality profile, that includes your presumed age and sex, whether you are anxious or easily stressed, how quickly you give in to impulses, and whether you are politically and socially conservative or liberal.

Examining the psychological profile that the algorithm derives from your online traces can certainly be entertaining. On the other hand, the algorithm’s ability to draw inferences about us illustrates how easy it is for anyone who tracks our digital activities to gain insight into our personalities—and potentially invade our privacy. What is more, psychological inferences about us might be exploited to manipulate, say, what we buy or how we vote.

SURPRISING ACCURACY

It seems that our like clicks by themselves can be pretty good indicators of what makes us tick. In 2015 David Stillwell and Youyou Wu, both at the University of Cambridge, and Michal Kosinski of Stanford University demonstrated that algorithms can evaluate what psychologists call the Big Five dimensions of personality quite accurately just by examining a Facebook user’s likes. These dimensions—openness to experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness and neuroticism—are viewed as representing the basic dimensions of personality. The degree to which they are present in individuals describes who those people are.

The researchers trained their algorithm using data from more than 70,000 Facebook users. All the participants had earlier filled out a personality questionnaire, and so their Big Five profile was known. The computer then went through the Facebook accounts of these test subjects looking for likes that are often associated with certain personality characteristics. For example, extroverted users often give a thumbs-up to activities such as “partying” or “dancing.” Users who are especially open may like Spanish painter Salvador Dalí.

Then the investigators had the program examine the likes of other Facebook users. If the software had as few as 10 for analysis, it was able to evaluate that person about as well as a co-worker did. Given 70 likes, the algorithm was about as accurate as a friend.
With 300, it was more successful than the person’s spouse. Even more astonishing to the researchers, feeding likes into their program enabled them to predict whether someone suffered from depression or took drugs and even to infer what the individual studied in school.

The project grew out of work that Stillwell began in 2007, when he created a Facebook app that enabled users to fill out a personality questionnaire and get feedback in exchange for allowing investigators to use the data for research. Six million people participated until the app was shut down in 2012, and about 40 percent gave permission for the researchers to obtain access to their past Facebook activities—including their history of likes.

Researchers around the world became very interested in the data set, parts of which were made available in anonymized form for noncommercial research. More than 50 articles and doctoral dissertations have been based on it, in part because the Facebook data reveal what people actually do when they are unaware that their behavior is the subject of research.

COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS

One obvious use for such psychological insights beyond the realm of research is in advertising, as Sandra C. Matz of Columbia University and her colleagues (among them Stillwell and Kosinski) demonstrated in a 2017 paper. The team made use of something that Facebook offers to its business customers: the ability to target advertisements to people with particular likes. They developed 10 different ads for the same cosmetic product, some meant to appeal to extroverted women and some to introverts. One of the “extrovert” ads, for example, showed a woman dancing with abandon at a disco; underneath it the slogan read, “Dance like no one’s watching (but they totally are).” An “introvert” ad showed a young woman applying makeup in front of a mirror. The slogan said, “Beauty doesn’t have to shout.”

Both campaigns ran on Facebook for a week and together reached about three million female Facebook users, who received messages that were matched to their personality type or to the opposite of their type. When the ads fit the personality, Facebook viewers were about 50 percent more likely to buy the product than when the ads did not fit.


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