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darkbud

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if you grow the same strain from seed and from clone do you harvest with the same amount of flowering days (meaning days counted from fliping to 12/12)?
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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darkbud said:
if you grow the same strain from seed and from clone do you harvest with the same amount of flowering days (meaning days counted from fliping to 12/12)?
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short answer - NO, you harvest when the plant is actually finished and ripe, not based on any amount of days.

long answer- Flowering doesn't biologically begin until the plant begins to form flowers. It won't do that unless the plant is also mature enough genetically. The reality is that the clone and the mother will both actually flower for very similar amounts of time depending on environment. What can often change between a clone and mother is the TRANSITION period. The transition is the period after you switch your lights but before the plant actually starts to flower. If the mother plant is not mature enough when you switch the lights to 12/12 it WILL NOT begin to flower until it reaches maturity. This can sometimes mean that the transition period takes 2-3 weeks. Clones however are typically mature by the time they get switched to 12/12, so the transition period might only be 4-7 days. Once both of the plants finish transitioning and begin actually flowering they should take about the same amount of time to complete the flower cycle.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Thundercat said:
short answer - NO, you harvest when the plant is actually finished and ripe, not based on any amount of days.

long answer- Flowering doesn't biologically begin until the plant begins to form flowers. It won't do that unless the plant is also mature enough genetically. The reality is that the clone and the mother will both actually flower for very similar amounts of time depending on environment. What can often change between a clone and mother is the TRANSITION period. The transition is the period after you switch your lights but before the plant actually starts to flower. If the mother plant is not mature enough when you switch the lights to 12/12 it WILL NOT begin to flower until it reaches maturity. This can sometimes mean that the transition period takes 2-3 weeks. Clones however are typically mature by the time they get switched to 12/12, so the transition period might only be 4-7 days. Once both of the plants finish transitioning and begin actually flowering they should take about the same amount of time to complete the flower cycle.
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I can't believe my dumbass is about to try and correct Lion-O, but here goes, lol.

Clones are mature from day one technically.

You know I love you man. But what happens when the student challenges the master, lol.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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PadawanWarrior said:
I can't believe my dumbass is about to try and correct Lion-O, but here goes, lol.

Clones are mature from day one technically.

You know I love you man. But what happens when the student challenges the master, lol.
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Like I said in my post clones are TYPICALLY mature. Clones aren’t always mature. If you clone a seedling young, the clone is the same age as the mother plant and wouldn’t be mature for several weeks.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Thundercat said:
Like I said in my post clones are TYPICALLY mature. Clones aren’t always mature. If you clone a seedling young, the clone is the same age as the mother plant and wouldn’t be mature for several weeks.
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You're the man. I'm not being sarcastic at all. I appreciate all your advice. I think you know that.

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darkbud

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Thank you everybody. I have this 24k clone. I harvested its mother with 7 weeks from fliping, and it took 2 weeks to transition. So I am thinking the clone should be harvested with less time exactly because of less transition time. I know 7 weeks sound too little time but it was wonderful, very strong and tasty. Also I am flowering outdoors in south america (but veg indoors).
 
DrOgkush

DrOgkush

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I quick read that I think. And though he was referring to taking a clone of the mother. Assuming rooted. And then placing the mother and the clone into the flower. I’m sorry all.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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darkbud said:
Thank you everybody. I have this 24k clone. I harvested its mother with 7 weeks from fliping, and it took 2 weeks to transition. So I am thinking the clone should be harvested with less time exactly because of less transition time. I know 7 weeks sound too little time but it was wonderful, very strong and tasty. Also I am flowering outdoors in south america (but veg indoors).
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I’d love to see pictures of the plant right before harvest. I’ve never seen a plant that was actually finished in 7 weeks from when it was flipped to 12/12.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Definitely glad you enjoyed it, that is the most important thing.

In my experience everyone that learns to let their plants finish ripening enjoys them even more then they did when they chopped them early. Fully ripe plants should have more terpenes, more yield and a longer more intense high.

That plant had a solid 3 more weeks, maybe 4 depending on how fast it progresses.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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darkbud said:
Yes, you are probably right. Can I send a pic of the clone I have now? It is with 6 weeks. By the way, probably hermie cause no male around and got a feww seeds
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looks like a plant in the middle of flower. Not even starting to mature. Looks like it has nice resin production.
 
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darkbud

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Since I flower on the roof in temperatures around 30 degrees celcius I was wondering if my trichomes degradate earlier.

Have u seen a video in youtube where the guy measures thc levels in the lab week by week? Is is worth watching
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Cannabis can adapt to grow in so many different environments. Your rooftop may be a little hot and could be windy, but your plant doesn’t look like it’s totally fried from the heat or anything so I wouldn’t think it’s an issue. It’s very possible the being exposed to the elements is why you have some damaged pistils that are turning red early, it’s so possible to get damaged trichomes which will degrade and appear amber long before the plant is actually finished growing.

Trichomes should be THE LAST sign of ripeness you look at on a plant, and you shouldn’t even look at them until you see the other signs are prominent.
 
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darkbud

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Thundercat said:
Cannabis can adapt to grow in so many different environments. Your rooftop may be a little hot and could be windy, but your plant doesn’t look like it’s totally fried from the heat or anything so I wouldn’t think it’s an issue. It’s very possible the being exposed to the elements is why you have some damaged pistils that are turning red early, it’s so possible to get damaged trichomes which will degrade and appear amber long before the plant is actually finished growing.

Trichomes should be THE LAST sign of ripeness you look at on a plant, and you shouldn’t even look at them until you see the other signs are prominent.
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Thank you. Did you get to see the youtube video?
 
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